Jorge Lacierva vs Cruz Carbajal

[tonymontana+]

I dont know nothing about these fighters but i remember that Sphinch likes Carbajal in general, tough fighter who fought alot of good fighters as opponent.
Looking at the records this fight looks pretty open, I take the plus money.
I dont like that lacierva was never stopped but its always a first time.
+ 163 i take a small shot

 

[sphincter]

tony...if you can get espn2,watch this one.....carbajal doesn`t know how to take a step backwards and lacierva is a very tough hombre.....


both have fought ridiculously tough competition....

i can see taking the odds.....not sure i can give an opinion .....either guy can win here...lacierva may,at this point in his career be naturally a little bigger...

still,carbajal is all heart....

this should be a war....

i`m waiting for a couple of unlined fights to hit the board.....a few on deck that look very tempting if the odds fall the right way....

good luck...

 

[boxlocks]

Agree

I played Carbajal +165 when it hit the board, also played the over 10 at -105

gl bl

 

[boxlocks]

Good call Tony

Congrats on a very nice run lately

 

[sphincter]

well done,my friend...i took a little piece...probably wouldn`t have had you not posted....

cruz is all heart and if you aren`t prepared to hang with him,you might as well not show up...

he took lacierva`s heart....and lacierva`s no punk....

again,congrats...thanks for getting my attention.....

 

[tonymontana+]

glad you joined in, i mean i was betting on your footnotes to some other fights.

I am doing more than decent this year. I hope Sturm doesnt **** up my big Parlay. It shouldnt be even close though.

One guy i respect for his knowledge of boxing is convinced that Castillo is tailor made for Diaz if Diaz fights smart. Good enough for me at +300. But a stoppage for Castillo seems like the most probable result.

 

[valdosta]

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glad you joined in, i mean i was betting on your footnotes to some other fights.

I am doing more than decent this year. I hope Sturm doesnt **** up my big Parlay. It shouldnt be even close though.

One guy i respect for his knowledge of boxing is convinced that Castillo is tailor made for Diaz if Diaz fights smart. Good enough for me at +300. But a stoppage for Castillo seems like the most probable result.

Castillo is made for Diaz to a degree. I think Diaz can outbox/outwork Castillo for a good part of the fight. The problems comes in later. Everyone who fights Castillo (besies PBF), seems to slow down the last few rounds. If the same happens to Diaz he will get KO'ed. If not maybe he can win a decision. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN THIS FIGHT IS TOP RANK!! With Castillo on the verge of a big fight with Corrales, can Diaz get a close decision on a Top Rank card? I doubt it.

 

[sphincter]

i can see a hedge possiblilty here...diaz will give castillo fits early....i was thinking that joey`s new round props would be a good concept for this type of fight....

after all,if diaz gets stopped,no play...

i feel as though if diaz can hang in for 12,he has an excellent shot.....certainly has a shot to stay within that 17 point number joey posted....

i just can`t help thinking in the same vein that val was discussing....that castillo gets stronger as the fight progesses...he will be bigger than diaz....

will getting down to 135 bother castillo?...it hasn`t so far....doesn`t seem to bother gatti when fighting smaller,weaker guys....

the question is,can diaz box for 12?...if this were a 6 or an 8 rounder,i`d like diaz....

by taking this fight,i think diaz thinks he can outbox castillo over 12....but,diaz chin is a big????....a big????

i don`t see anyone on diaz` resume that is as strong or persistent as castillo....but,i fully expect diaz to be on the move constantly....

wish i knew the size of the ring.....i`d pay for that info....

 

[franks]

Well, I agree to a point. I see Mark Ratner all the time at fights here. This guy is diligent to a fault. Sure, we get meatball decisions, but with legalized sportsbetting here, it is less likely to be a shady deal. By the way, Mark is executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Yea, and I realize Bob Arum isn't an altar boy; we all saw Oscar lose to Mosley here by decision. Any Oscar fight is a big payday for all concerned. I think Castillo wears Diaz down and wins is a legit fashion.

 

[tonymontana+]

i can see a hedge possiblilty here...diaz will give castillo fits early....i was thinking that joey`s new round props would be a good concept for this type of fight....

after all,if diaz gets stopped,no play...

i feel as though if diaz can hang in for 12,he has an excellent shot.....certainly has a shot to stay within that 17 point number joey posted....

i just can`t help thinking in the same vein that val was discussing....that castillo gets stronger as the fight progesses...he will be bigger than diaz....

will getting down to 135 bother castillo?...it hasn`t so far....doesn`t seem to bother gatti when fighting smaller,weaker guys....

the question is,can diaz box for 12?...if this were a 6 or an 8 rounder,i`d like diaz....

by taking this fight,i think diaz thinks he can outbox castillo over 12....but,diaz chin is a big????....a big????

i don`t see anyone on diaz` resume that is as strong or persistent as castillo....but,i fully expect diaz to be on the move constantly....

wish i knew the size of the ring.....i`d pay for that info....

absolutley right on the round prop.
He can lose by 4 rounds and you still win, I believe the number is -17.

I just dont like the hassale to sign up and transfer money.
i got to check the options.

 

[sphincter]

i`d go with joey myself if not for the hassle.....what can i say.....

i`d throw the action his way just on general principle..the guy eats and sleeps this stuff......

if not for joey,i`m not sure we`d be getting all these boxing lines and action.......i think he influences all these books that show boxing and mma action...

i believe,to steal a quote from reggie jackson,that joey is the straw that stirs the "fight wagering" drink.....

not kissing ass....just glad that joey`s around...credit goes where credit is due....

 

[tonymontana+]

i`d go with joey myself if not for the hassle.....what can i say.....

i`d throw the action his way just on general principle..the guy eats and sleeps this stuff......

if not for joey,i`m not sure we`d be getting all these boxing lines and action.......i think he influences all these books that show boxing and mma action...

i believe,to steal a quote from reggie jackson,that joey is the straw that stirs the "fight wagering" drink.....

not kissing ass....just glad that joey`s around...credit goes where credit is due....

Yep you are right on. No book to book transfer though.
Diaz didnt make it, pretty accurate prediction on your side with Castillo coming on in the second half. Glad you won some.