Jimbo Fisher.... C'mon mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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So being honest and a role model doesn't figure into the Heisman award, in your opinion that's all garbage. Gotcha:103631605

Honesty? Lmao

It's the Heisman. Since when was it an award on morality and honesty? You guys got me cracking up over here eating up all this BS

And role models are for people with horrible parents. I don't believe in the concept.
 

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Jimbo knows the backup sucks, and he is paid to win. He has no self conscious on the matter, only to win football games.

Look at CMR.....Gurley probably told him he sold some things for a few hundred bucks. Being the holy one that CMR is he could not stand up and lie for his player knowing the truth.

To be honest, its tough to say who is worse......and that is sad to say, but football is football.
I think their holding Gurley out because they have proof, and are afraid they might have to forfeit any game he played in if they let him play. That's just assumption on my part. But it sure seems like the case.
 

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I think their holding Gurley out because they have proof, and are afraid they might have to forfeit any game he played in if they let him play. That's just assumption on my part. But it sure seems like the case.

I agree............Usually they have lower-level coaches handle these things funneled through the Head Coach so if a star player needs a a few hundred bucks that bad he knows where to ask and where to get it without having to do extra stuff on the side......Mark Richt may be so nice to the point that he doesn't even have that common system......
 

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How can anyone, fsu fan or not, defend the character of Winston. And now Coach Fisher is gonna go down with the ship!!! Whether or not he got charged with rape, I think anyone who believes he didn't is being naive. Sexual assault, stealing, public profanity outburst, these things alone tell you the character of this kid. He has no remorse and thinks everything is a joke and he can't be touched! And Fisher has lost his credibility by being portrayed as a win at all cost coach. Do you really think Winston would sign over 900 items and not recieve any compensation? Let's be real guys! It's not a witch hunt, Gurly has been clean his whole career at Georgia and they got him. If there's smoke there's usually fire and Fisher and fsu could take a lesson from Georgia and suspend Winston until they find out more about it.
 

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I think their holding Gurley out because they have proof, and are afraid they might have to forfeit any game he played in if they let him play. That's just assumption on my part. But it sure seems like the case.

This would be one of the hardest things to prove in a court of law, unless they have video evidence. Its cash, it ain't going into a checking account. I honestly think he told CMR and the Administration the truth and they sit him. As a UGA fan, that makes me torn on the subject.
 

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another nole fan.. do you really think my life revolves around Ohio State football.. coach lied, it cost him his job, next man up... Eventually most nole fans ( not you, i think you get it ) will realize fisher and winston are making a joke of the institution.. which is Florida State University, it is bigger than anyone man. You mention Ohio State, which if nothing else should have been a lesson to everyone, dont lie, do the right thing, or it will come back and bite you in the ass... Look how Georgia handled things last week, or Florida. I am guessing Fisher is not a high IQ man and in the end it will cost him. He is putting winning above all else. Fisher is representing everything that is bad about college football... it is nothing personal about osu, who cares about these people, it is football, it needs to be about right and wrong.. when you make things personal or think and speak from the heart in situations like this you never come out on top..

Fisher has mishandled the Winston situation for sure. I personally would rather swallow a few losses and not have this clown make a mockery of our program. The more Fisher protects Winston, the more Winston pushes the envelope. At some point, you have to call a spade a spade......
 

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All I know is the kid is nothing but trouble . If you are all not smart enough to see that then god help you. Anyone that wants to keep defending this loser will eventually see the light one day.
 

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I will caveat; I’m not an FSU supporter and certainly not a Winston supporter. However, the charges of rape are suspect at best.

I’m not sure if you checked out the evidence in the rape the case, but I don’t know how anyone could possibly review it and know for certain what happened. Does Winston seem like a dope, sure, but it’s a classic case of he said/she said. If anything, the beginning part of the accuser story, which is the least important part of the story, is filled with holes, conflicting statements and what appears to be flat out lies.

Several witnesses, including her own friends, place her with the three FSU players, drinking, exchanging phone numbers and willingly leaving with them and getting into a cab. Yet, she denies all of this. Obviously, lying about the chain of events that started this ordeal does not mean she is lying about the events to follow and even if she was hanging all over these guys and left willingly doesn’t mean she intended to have sex with them either. It certainly does give the appearance of several mistruths on the only actions that can be confirmed by parties outside of the three FSU players, who you would suspect would back Winston’s story whether true or not.

If anything, the only thing that is clear is that FSU and the Tallahassee police botched this investigation with such a degree of negligence it had to be done willingly. Any University should take these types of allegations seriously and investigate thoroughly, efficiently and promptly. FSU and the police failed on all three accounts and took the approach of sweeping it under the rug rather than risk their being any merit to the case whatsoever. They couldn't find the cab driver, yet they know the company and there were less than 20 employees working at the time? They couldn't review the club camera footage because they remove it after 30 days, really it took them over thirty days to request that? The University and police working in conjunction with the accused's defense attorney, seriously?

Ironically, had they seen this through, unless there is additional evidence that has not been reported and/or covered up, Winston would have certainly been cleared based on the holes in her story and the rape kit/examination not backing up her story.

Eventually, the University will have to answer for this and the role they played, or lack thereof, in the investigation, but Winston will go unblemished. By all accounts, his draft status has not been affected as some have suggested in this thread, save for the debate of Mariota v Winston being settled. Winston will still be the second QB taken in the draft and pending how the order falls will go in the 4-5 or 7-8 range a few slots after Mariota is selected. His endorsement potential has taken a huge hit, but the NFL doesn’t give a shit about stolen crab legs, BB guns or signing autographs for money.

I just hope he doesn't end on a team I support.....
 

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I do not understand why Jimbo is going so far in the tank for this mush mouthed moron.

He can support Winston but not go so far as to say the reporting from the NYT and Fox isn't "entirely accurate" (but it is at least mostly accurate, right?). I'm not clear why Jimbo is putting himself so far out there on this.
 

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Any time you wait going on two years to check into ANY crime..... it most likely turns into he said-she said.

People from the school and local leagal authorities deserve to take a big fall on this.

Winston is a shit-piece!
 

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Fisher has mishandled the Winston situation for sure. I personally would rather swallow a few losses and not have this clown make a mockery of our program. The more Fisher protects Winston, the more Winston pushes the envelope. At some point, you have to call a spade a spade......

i take back anything negative i might have said about you.. you hit the nail on the head. when shit happened at ohio state i was bummed but every one of them needed to go. no one man is bigger than the institution.. winning is the ultimate, we all want it but not at any cost.
 

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i take back anything negative i might have said about you.. you hit the nail on the head. when shit happened at ohio state i was bummed but every one of them needed to go. no one man is bigger than the institution.. winning is the ultimate, we all want it but not at any cost.

Ohio State still has the same Athletic Director in place that sat at the same table as Jim Tressel during the Terrelle Pryor press conference when Tressel lied about who he forwarded the incriminating emails to.

Gene Smith has ever answered any questions about what he knew and when he knew it, and has kept his job.

Ohio State tries to win at any cost. Stop kidding yourself.
 

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Ohio State still has the same Athletic Director in place that sat at the same table as Jim Tressel during the Terrelle Pryor press conference when Tressel lied about who he forwarded the incriminating emails to.

Gene Smith has ever answered any questions about what he knew and when he knew it, and has kept his job.

Ohio State tries to win at any cost. Stop kidding yourself.

smith did not lie when filling out the paper work, coach did.. not a fan of smith at all and he did nothing to help tressel for sure.. i would much rather still have tressel than meyer, much better coach from what i have seen. i do not think all schools such as your noles will do anything to win at any cost.. how they handled the rape case was sad.. they did everything they could to make it go away.. if it were your sister, mother, wife or daughter you would have a much different attitude..
 

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