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Good info. you have here JET....I think i am going to be on the opposite side of you tom. I still have a night of sleep to think about it though

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UCLA / TENN

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/06/97</TD><TD class=datacell>TENN 30 - UCLA 24</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 14.5</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/07/96</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 20 - TENN 35</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 18.5</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/03/94</TD><TD class=datacell>TENN 23 - UCLA 25</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA PK</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

UCLA is 3-0 ATS in the last 3 meetings. People favor the VOLS in this situation.quote]


Not sure it is a relevant statistic dating back 14 years. Not disrespecting your system but a more current head-to-head would be plausible. Still believe UCLA can be respectable especially with Neuhesiel as coach and more so with Fulmer coaching Tenn.

Good luck with your continued plays....:103631605

It's the best I could bring up... I didn't even realize the dates. If you can think of teams that are similar quality to TN I can try to bring those up and see how those went.


<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>08-31-2008 10:43 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 5719961" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Leatherballs</TD><TD class=alt2>Good info. you have here JET....I think i am going to be on the opposite side of you tom. I still have a night of sleep to think about it though

BOL

About the SEC. The only stats I could pull up for UCLA vs SEC was:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=left width="12%">09/01/2001</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap width="25%">at Alabama</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="8%">20-17</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

It was a PK so they won SU and ATS. There might be more games but I don't know where to find them lol. As far as TN playing PAC-10:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=left width="12%">09/01/2007</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap width="25%">at California</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="8%">31-45</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="8%">L </TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="8%">(L ATS)</TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="8%"></TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="10%"></TD><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="10%"><TD class=TSN5 noWrap align=middle width="10%"> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=left width="12%">09/02/2006</TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap width="25%">vs. California</TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="8%">35-18</TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="8%">W </TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="8%">(W ATS)</TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="8%"></TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="10%"></TD><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="10%"><TD class=TSN1 noWrap align=middle width="10%"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

High scoring affairs. I also found some recent news:

University of Tennessee defensive back Brent Vinson and defensive tackle Donald Langley have been suspended for the team's first game of the season.


The school's head coach, Phillip Fulmer, announced that Vinson and Langley will miss the season opener at UCLA on September 1 because of an academic- related issue.The players will, however, be eligible for the Volunteers' game against University of Alabama-Birmingham on September 13. Vinson, a sophomore, played in 14 games (10 starts) last season and was second on the team with eight passes defended. Langley redshirted last season.

Word on the street is that OLSON (BRUINS QB) is also out... which I think may be good news if anything. It's also eye-catching and superstitious that TENN likes to score about 30PPG in the stats I've listed.

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UCLA OVER *LARGE PLAY*

I've seen enough. This game is gonna end up around 60 (55 to be exact by my system). I'm not even gonna sweat the +7... I'm taking this OVER. Not the largest over I've had so don't go too nuts, yet.
 

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Ova looks like another solid one!!!!

changing my fresno pick to Rutgers perhaps because they have at least some defense and i think too too many on Fresno for them to cover?? what do you say ?

pissed just a tad that i didnt wager today, would have been 2-0 with kentucky and game UNDER... ooooh well, fukkkkkkkkk

i guess there is just soo much football i can watch in a given weekend.... shooting hoops became more fun...

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lol, i need to shoot hoops more often. As far as FRESNO/RUT... I was on RUTGERS the whole time... but only as a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERYYYYYYYYYYYYY SMALL LEAN. If you're gonna pick a side--RUTGERS IS A GO. My line says -4.5
 

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UCLA / TENN

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/06/97</TD><TD class=datacell>TENN 30 - UCLA 24</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 14.5</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/07/96</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 20 - TENN 35</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA 18.5</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/03/94</TD><TD class=datacell>TENN 23 - UCLA 25</TD><TD class=datacell>UCLA PK</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD><TD class=datacell align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

UCLA is 3-0 ATS in the last 3 meetings. People favor the VOLS in this situation.

UCLA OFF vs TENN DEF

333 : 403 Y/G
3.7 : 4.2 Y/RUSH
6.1 : 6.8 Y/ATT

TENN OFF vs UCLA DEF

401 : 343 Y/G
4.2 : 3.0 Y/RUSH
6.9 : 6.0 Y/ATT

Read the numbers carefully. UCLA's OFFENSE gains only 333y/g but TENN's DEFENSE gives up 403y/g. I look at these as important factors on game control. The tempo favors UCLA because in return: TENN's OFFENSE outputs 401y/g while the UCLA DEFENSE holds teams to 343y/g. In all games--penalties and big plays are going to be big factors if they arise. *BUT* surely if the game goes "correctly" by my standards then UCLA will either lose by 3 points or win by 4-10. I'm liking the 7 they get and also the intense factor making this an OVER PLAY.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TH class=TSN4 align=left></TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>W/L</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>H</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>A</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>AF</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>AA</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>ATS</TH><TH class=TSN4 align=middle>O/U</TH></TR><TR><TH class=TSN4 align=left>Tennessee</TH><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-4</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-0</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>2-4</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>32.5</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>27.3</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-4-2</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>7-7</TD></TR><TR><TH class=TSN4 align=left>U-C-L-A</TH><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>6-7</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>4-2</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>2-5</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>22.4</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>22.3</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>9-4</TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>5-8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

So UCLA is coming off what looks to be a bad season but their ATS proves that they are actually being overlooked. Their record makes them KNOWN LOSERS but take a gander at the points allowed and points put up. 22.4 vs 22.3 allowed. They score more then they allow yet they closed the season 6-7. Weird? Sure! The O/U statistic doesn't really help me but by the looks of the scoring--it appeals to me as an over. Mind you that TENN was 2-4 W/L as an away team last year... possible upset? Eh? Who knows, I'm taking the points and the over.
JetPlane,

Way too many thing here can control the tempo of the game. Crompton ism uch different than Ainge and Clausen seeing as he can set up and actuall get 5-15 if there has been an opening for a running lane. Crompton also brings to the table something else different, he LOVES to try and make plays. He can throw a deep ball so you can probably bring up that the Volunteers will have a better YPG.

Also, the defensive secondary for the Volunteers is incredible. I don't see the numbers that you are listing being anywhere close to relevant here against this poor UCLA offense. UCLA is on their third (3rd) QB and I just don't see how you could play the seven here. I don't speak up much against your plays but this one seems to be a play on UTK or nothing at all my man.

UT's defense will be improved and well... UCLA is not a very strong offense team so I can defintely see these numbers of 401 being off of teams to the likes of Florida and not UCLA.

Whats the response for the O-Line and Foster? Can they contain Foster and the five big hogs upfront with just seven or eight?
 

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Mr. Jet, great day yesterday!! Talked to a buddy of mine in Bham who convinced me that Alabama was in better physical shape than Clemson.Jumped on Bama! Today I love Rutgers, everyone in many forums are on Fresno St. The line has moved tremendously! Fresno IS STILL IN JET LAG!!!! Rutgers to the bank!! ATLSLIM
 

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<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>09-01-2008 10:47 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 5726628" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>6er</TD><TD class=alt2>:pope:

larger play winner

:thumbsup2:

YOU KNOWWWWWWWWW!!!! WHO GOT EM? WHO!?
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>09-01-2008 02:38 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 5722305" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>ATLSLIM</TD><TD class=alt2>Mr. Jet, great day yesterday!! Talked to a buddy of mine in Bham who convinced me that Alabama was in better physical shape than Clemson.Jumped on Bama! Today I love Rutgers, everyone in many forums are on Fresno St. The line has moved tremendously! Fresno IS STILL IN JET LAG!!!! Rutgers to the bank!! ATLSLIM

Maybe you should start convincing ME! All you guys with good info holding out on me lol. Goodluck captain.... see you on the plus side.
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>09-01-2008 02:15 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 5722184" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Cappin' Guru</TD><TD class=alt2>Quote:
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JetPlane,

Way too many thing here can control the tempo of the game. Crompton ism uch different than Ainge and Clausen seeing as he can set up and actuall get 5-15 if there has been an opening for a running lane. Crompton also brings to the table something else different, he LOVES to try and make plays. He can throw a deep ball so you can probably bring up that the Volunteers will have a better YPG.

Also, the defensive secondary for the Volunteers is incredible. I don't see the numbers that you are listing being anywhere close to relevant here against this poor UCLA offense. UCLA is on their third (3rd) QB and I just don't see how you could play the seven here. I don't speak up much against your plays but this one seems to be a play on UTK or nothing at all my man.

UT's defense will be improved and well... UCLA is not a very strong offense team so I can defintely see these numbers of 401 being off of teams to the likes of Florida and not UCLA.

Whats the response for the O-Line and Foster? Can they contain Foster and the five big hogs upfront with just seven or eight?

It's alright. I like the insight you gave me... I had already taken in consideration of the TN OFF/DEF and UCLA DEF. The only thing I really had no clue about was the OFFENSE. I gauged the DEF kinda of close... and the game was a clencher but too many times have I been on the bad side of the fence. I'm glad I picked the right ones today.
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>09-01-2008 12:56 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 5721726" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Mighty Ginseng</TD><TD class=alt2>With you on that over Jet. Hope It's 50-0 Ten

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Easy on the 50-0! >:) I had the Bruines too ya know.... GET EM!
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Good job Jet....I got the over and totally missed the game. Anyways, thanks for the pick. Was with ya all the way
 

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It's okay dude. You lose one, you win 2 or 3 more--don't matter >:) You're always goddamn up! Get em.

UCLA was a small bet for me anyway--but I wish those other guys didn't have to tell me that UCLA was gonna suck so much lol.
 

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A very good bet on UCLA my man. I still liked the orange paints! LOL. Bad game for the Volunteers. Their defense showed signs of greatness but our offense was far away from greatness LOL.
 

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Like I said in someone else's thread... if it was at UT and UCLA was traveling--I give TENN -9.5 or -10 and play it. It's okay.
 

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NONE OF THESE ARE OFFICIAL YET

I have a shit ton of plays once again. If you want to be ballsy do AKRON and AIR FORCE ML PARLAY for small. I will make a final list when I'm ready to actually wager on them. Any opinions are welcome. I do need your help when it comes to PLAYERS, I'm capping by team... and I have not (for the most part) taken into consideration players that have left the team or new ones joining. Strength of plays can go up or down depending on new info that I get and cap.

SMALL PLAYS:

TEXAS A&M -3

I predicted the A&M loss ATS (not SU) last week and I'm predicting a win today but I'm not making a statement with it because if these guys truly suck this bad then I'm not gonna want to bet on them ever again.

KENT ST +7

Playing my Iowa State Cyclones who had a good showing last week but this game should be a good test. I like taking points here.

NORMAL PLAYS (1 UNIT):

WVU -8.5

I have WVU winning by 12 this week... nothing special.

KANSAS -20.5

Kansas just barely missed a cover and this week it looks to be the same situation BUT I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt... it just feels right this week as opposed to last week.

TOLEDO +23

Haven't gotten to see a TOLEDO game yet... AZ coming off that 70pt win which was never suspected. I have TOL losing by 10 here. If they lose by an additional 14--I'm gonna be pissed. Losing by 21 is fine, which is why I'm making this a normal play instead of medium.

MEDIUM PLAYS (2-3 UNITS):

AIR FORCE +3

Gonna win.

AKRON +4.5

Gonna win.

BUFFALO +13

Buffalo could potentially upset but I have them losing by 4 points (not no god damn 13!). Gonna win.
 
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I was 11-6 (LOST NAVY) and I dodged WVU and KENT ST as losses from the above post (i took them out when I went official plays). I won all the plays but Toledo.

Updated record 16-7

My NFL sucks by the way... fade me there this year lol
 

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lol, i thought i was the only one who took A&M in this entire forum.
 

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Well, i took them for small... I have no clue why everyone thought NM was gonna win lol. I was only scared because A&M sucked so bad last game I didn't know if it was going to be a continuing tradition.
 

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If you watched the entire game, it may be the only one they win... Funny thing is, i loaded up on them, about 5 times my normal bet. lol
 

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