I wasn't knocking them. I just don't agree with this bet my opinion. I enjoy reading their information.
J.J. Bascus Explanation On Middling The SeaHawks & Greenbay game [Point Spread Only]
PWK RK %ECCO}}}/% GB 6 SEA 1 SEA + 5... SEA not covering spread at -7 1/2 BUT WINNING THE GAME UNDER 7 1/2 POINTS, IAM LOOKING AT THE 1/2 POINT AS A ADVANTAGE IN POINT SPREAD. This is not a press bet with NE -6 1/2 .. money line is only the press bet Seahawks -$305 press to New England -$260. looking to correspond SEA winning under 7 1/2 points with the money line. System Smitty Ryan calculated this game middling point spread with the Seahawks a 75.36% chance of this game under -7.5 on the spread & winning on the money line bet. I hope late Bob Martin[ my mentor] doesn't start turning around in his grave with this bet/LOL!!!!
J.J.Bascus [Reno NV.] SEA -$305 with a press on NE -$260 also not a press bet> GB+7 1/2 & NE -6 1/2
HarryTheHat's Bet [Las Vegas N.V] SEA -$305 with a press on NE -$260 also betting NE -6 1/2
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PWK RK %ECCO}}}/% GB 6 SEA 1 SEA + 5... SEA not covering spread at -7 1/2 BUT WINNING THE GAME UNDER 7 1/2 POINTS, IAM LOOKING AT THE 1/2 POINT AS A ADVANTAGE IN POINT SPREAD. This is not a press bet with NE -6 1/2 .. money line is only the press bet Seahawks -$305 press to New England -$260. looking to correspond SEA winning under 7 1/2 points with the money line. System Smitty Ryan calculated this game middling point spread with the Seahawks a 75.36% chance of this game under -7.5 on the spread & winning on the money line bet. I hope late Bob Martin[ my mentor] doesn't start turning around in his grave with this bet/LOL!!!!
J.J.Bascus [Reno NV.] SEA -$305 with a press on NE -$260 also not a press bet> GB+7 1/2 & NE -6 1/2
HarryTheHat's Bet [Las Vegas N.V] SEA -$305 with a press on NE -$260 also betting NE -6 1/2
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Originally Posted by Swany
Big cat, 919, dr.jimmy
Just in case you did not know, Bob Martin was the King, the guru of NFL handicapping and the most amazing line maker for all Books and casinos in Nevada and across the US. No embellishment here, He was the original expert of diagnosing NFL football games and hanging those famous "curve lines" out from the plaza. He's practically a legend in that regard.
Harry the Hat, an expert and professional himself, was a colleague of Bob's and most likely has forgotten more than most will know in a lifetime.
Hoping that will help you understand why Harry and his associates with all that experience and their knowledge, (along with the karma that flows) are so successful and profitable making a living at NFL Handicapping.
I would say we are very fortunate that he takes time to bother with us and share his insights. I would hope you would ask him questions about the strategy he uses and how to be a better and smarter player rather than knock him.
A number of sports gamblers, both beginners and veterans, fail to understand the true meaning of the point spread and the thought process that goes behind the making of the spread for each game. The sportsbooks are aware that the so-called wise guys (smart bettors) are going to wager more money on the average than a typical bettor, so the point spread is created with trying to beat the wise guys. If a sports book has the wise guys on one team and in the general public betting on the other side, they typically will be rooting for the public, with the knowledge that the public bettors are more likely to give back their winnings on another game same day.The next time you see a point spread, remember the person taking the bet doesn't necessarily believe the favored team is that many points better than the underdog.This is one of late Bob Martin philosophies who was our mentor in NFL handicapping.
Looking at all different perspectives to win our bets why I choose sometimes going against J.J. predictions on the lines, not so much the stats. However besides our different betting styles and handicapping games. We all do have a lot things in common in our relationship, we all use as a tool in handicapping games J.J. Bascus Power Rating and look at his picks.I post his ratings so you can use it as a tool in your personal handicapping games if so wish. If you bet some of our picks fine, if not so be it!!!. To be very honest about J.J.Bascus power ratings, predictions and our picks that I post is primarily for all our personal friends all over the country and some parts of the world that can look at our ratings with easy access as guests here on Rx Sports Forum.
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Big cat, 919, dr.jimmy Just in case you did not know, Bob Martin was the King, the guru of NFL handicapping and the most amazing line maker for all Books and casinos in Nevada and across the US. No embellishment here, He was the original expert of diagnosing NFL football games and hanging those famous "curve lines" out from the plaza. He's practically a legend in that regard.
Harry the Hat, an expert and professional himself, was a colleague of Bob's and most likely has forgotten more than most will know in a lifetime.
Hoping that will help you understand why Harry and his associates with all that experience and their knowledge, (along with the karma that flows) are so successful and profitable making a living at NFL Handicapping.
I would say we are very fortunate that he takes time to bother with us and share his insights. I would hope you would ask him questions about the strategy he uses and how to be a better and smarter player rather than knock him.
A number of sports gamblers, both beginners and veterans, fail to understand the true meaning of the point spread and the thought process that goes behind the making of the spread for each game. The sportsbooks are aware that the so-called wise guys (smart bettors) are going to wager more money on the average than a typical bettor, so the point spread is created with trying to beat the wise guys. If a sports book has the wise guys on one team and in the general public betting on the other side, they typically will be rooting for the public, with the knowledge that the public bettors are more likely to give back their winnings on another game same day.The next time you see a point spread, remember the person taking the bet doesn't necessarily believe the favored team is that many points better than the underdog.This is one of late Bob Martin philosophies who was our mentor in NFL handicapping.
Looking at all different perspectives to win our bets why I choose sometimes going against J.J. predictions on the lines, not so much the stats. However besides our different betting styles and handicapping games. We all do have a lot things in common in our relationship, we all use as a tool in handicapping games J.J. Bascus Power Rating and look at his picks.I post his ratings so you can use it as a tool in your personal handicapping games if so wish. If you bet some of our picks fine, if not so be it!!!. To be very honest about J.J.Bascus power ratings, predictions and our picks that I post is primarily for all our personal friends all over the country and some parts of the world that can look at our ratings with easy access as guests here on Rx Sports Forum.
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http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/sportsgambling101/a/spreadmade.htmOriginally Posted by Swany
Just in case you did not know, Bob Martin was the King, the guru of NFL handicapping and the most amazing line maker for all Books and casinos in Nevada and across the US. No embellishment here, He was the original expert of diagnosing NFL football games and hanging those famous "curve lines" out from the plaza. He's practically a legend in that regard.
Harry the Hat, an expert and professional himself, was a colleague of Bob's and most likely has forgotten more than most will know in a lifetime.
Hoping that will help you understand why Harry and his associates with all that experience and their knowledge, (along with the karma that flows) are so successful and profitable making a living at NFL Handicapping.
I would say we are very fortunate that he takes time to bother with us and share his insights. I would hope you would ask him questions about the strategy he uses and how to be a better and smarter player rather than knock him.
A number of sports gamblers, both beginners and veterans, fail to understand the true meaning of the point spread and the thought process that goes behind the making of the spread for each game. The sportsbooks are aware that the so-called wise guys (smart bettors) are going to wager more money on the average than a typical bettor, so the point spread is created with trying to beat the wise guys. If a sports book has the wise guys on one team and in the general public betting on the other side, they typically will be rooting for the public, with the knowledge that the public bettors are more likely to give back their winnings on another game same day.The next time you see a point spread, remember the person taking the bet doesn't necessarily believe the favored team is that many points better than the underdog.This is one of late Bob Martin philosophies who was our mentor in NFL handicapping.
Looking at all different perspectives to win our bets why I choose sometimes going against J.J. predictions on the lines, not so much the stats. However besides our different betting styles and handicapping games. We all do have a lot things in common in our relationship, we all use as a tool in handicapping games J.J. Bascus Power Rating and look at his picks.I post his ratings so you can use it as a tool in your personal handicapping games if so wish. If you bet some of our picks fine, if not so be it!!!. To be very honest about J.J.Bascus power ratings, predictions and our picks that I post is primarily for all our personal friends all over the country and some parts of the world that can look at our ratings with easy access as guests here on Rx Sports Forum.
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Are you betting $3,100 to win $1,000 on Pats ML?
I saw you had Denver ML in several plays last week along with teasers.......that's some heavy juice, how do you subtract that from 68%?
I saw you had Denver ML in several plays last week along with teasers.......that's some heavy juice, how do you subtract that from 68%?
Harry and company,
I enjoy these writeups and totally respect old school vegas. Maybe playing these blown up Money lines is good gambling but it looks square to me and Harry has given a bunch of these lately. The flip side of these obvious favorites are games like Oregon and Denver last week (which Harry and boys were all over) and you get burned with heavy odds. Having said that, I like the Seattle play but don't like the middle. Also, Harry keep posting as these are some of the best conversations on here and you seem like a great guy!
I enjoy these writeups and totally respect old school vegas. Maybe playing these blown up Money lines is good gambling but it looks square to me and Harry has given a bunch of these lately. The flip side of these obvious favorites are games like Oregon and Denver last week (which Harry and boys were all over) and you get burned with heavy odds. Having said that, I like the Seattle play but don't like the middle. Also, Harry keep posting as these are some of the best conversations on here and you seem like a great guy!
I personally think a lot of money will be coming down on the Colts from +6 1/2 to maybe +6 around game time, not up!!!I also believe the way the money line is moving here in Vegas books from laying -$260 to win $100 and now laying -$ 245 to win $100 with the Pats will fluctuate with the Colts +$245 to now at +$225, there going to be some money line betting on the Colts. If you believe in theory that I do, that the money line moves the point spread, you might have a shot at -6 . I really don.t see the line moving up. Stncas here in Vegas is only book that moved the spread -7 Pats as of now. If that's a indication? Then it might move to -7, but I really don.t think so.
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Yes I lost that bet Denver-7 and -$310, If you look back at our stats, we do not press every week in regular NFL season, however I have won 8 press bets in post season +CAR +280 press bet > DAL - $310 and plus string bets on point spread line bets thought out regular season when I was on a roll, if you remember that [ press bet is worth 3-1 plus our money we started with, we waged on the press. If not a 68% I pretty close. However its all about my bankroll that I started with in beginning of the season. I have increased my bankroll 3x what I started with using our money management system in making bets before the wild card and playoff games. I locked up my original bankroll, I started with 30k and working off what I have won with 80k going into wild card and playoff games, I have lost about 6k or little more going into division games includes point spread bets and money line presses.. If I win all 3 of my bets in the conference games going into super bowl, I am looking at about 70k winner.If I lose the point spread bet with the Pats and cover my money line bet with a press, I am looking at about 60k winner going into the super bowl so I doubled my bankroll.I also have other incomes too, that I don,t have to discuss. So I guess that's answers your question about 68% my computer group friend? Best of luck to you in the conference games going into super bowl !!!!
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I'm 56 and have learned a lot things on this site. I hope and pray you stick around so I may have the opportunity to learn even more from you and your friends Harry. I drive a truck over the road for a living and if I ever get back to Vegas again I would cherish the chance to sit down with you boys and even buy you all a drink or two. Please be safe in all that you do this summer!
Lol Harry, you do not need to discuss your other source of income........I was just wondering how the ML big favorites affected your bankroll.........I hope you start posting your plays at the beginning of the season next year, you bring some good conversation to the table........good luck with your plays as well.........
I started posting my threads and picks from week 1 and Monday & Thursday night games also with my management system. Rx only goes back to my history around week#3 http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=996152&highlight= Check out J.J. Bascus Power Rating Analysis of the top 10 teams The NFL Preseason 2014 Week #3 going to the Superbowl[ tell me what you see back in week #3? ] and some of the ratings now have went up!!!!!
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"if I ever get back to Vegas again I would cherish the chance to sit down with you boys and even buy you all a drink or two. Please be safe in all that you do this summer!"
Well you'd be about 500 miles away if your in Las Vegas.
" IF YOU EVER VISIT RENO N.V. STOP BY SAY HELLO. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND ME AT[ Eldorado Reno Resort & Casino], DOWNTOWN RENO AT THE SPORTSBOOK.[ Family owned and operated since 1973]
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"if I ever get back to Vegas again I would cherish the chance to sit down with you boys and even buy you all a drink or two. Please be safe in all that you do this summer!"
Well you'd be about 500 miles away if your in Las Vegas.
" IF YOU EVER VISIT RENO N.V. STOP BY SAY HELLO. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND ME AT[ Eldorado Reno Resort & Casino], DOWNTOWN RENO AT THE SPORTSBOOK.[ Family owned and operated since 1973]
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