No petyos, before the season started there were discussions in here by everyone about Philli, and many still thought they would be dominant. Also, there was another thread regarding the first week of the season, when many were on Philli over Tampa, and Lou and I both tried pointing out to people that the Eagles were a huge question and that they more than likely would not be the same team with the loss of not only Hugh Douglas, which everyone seemed to only consider, but also Shawn Barbers' loss would be huge.