ISIS and terrorists worldwide should be a bit nervous tonight

[Enfuego]

I'd be worried too if I were an innocent civilian attending a wedding. Took "Mad Dog" 30 seconds to give the order to murder 42 civilian men, women and children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/24/iraq-wedding-party-video-backs-survivors-claims.html

Pretty clear you didn't even read the material in your own link.

The U.S. military took the stance that the location was a legitimate target. Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the coalition deputy chief of staff for U.S. operations in Iraq: "We took ground fire and we returned fire. We estimate that around 40 were killed. But we operated within our rules of engagement."[SUP][3][/SUP] American fire included both bullets and bombs, leaving behind craters.[SUP][4]
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USMC Major General James Mattis said the idea of a wedding was implausible, "How many people go to the middle of the desert ... to hold a wedding 80 miles (130km) from the nearest civilization? These were more than two dozen military-age males. Let's not be naive." The Rakats and the Sabahs were residents of Mukaradeeb.[SUP][3][/SUP] He later added that it had taken him 30 seconds to deliberate on bombing the location.[SUP][5]
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In the aftermath, Kimmitt said, "There was no evidence of a wedding: no decorations, no musical instruments found, no large quantities of food or leftover servings one would expect from a wedding celebration. There may have been some kind of celebration. Bad people have celebrations, too." Video footage obtained by the Associated Press seems to contradict this view. The video shows a series of scenes of a wedding celebration, and footage from the following day showing fragments of musical instruments, pots and pans and brightly colored beddings used for celebrations, scattered around a destroyed tent.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]

 

[Enfuego]

I'd be worried too if I were an innocent civilian attending a wedding. Took "Mad Dog" 30 seconds to give the order to murder 42 civilian men, women and children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/24/iraq-wedding-party-video-backs-survivors-claims.html

Let me inform you of something else you most likely are unaware of when it comes to war especially this war.

The process to hit a legitimate target in Afghanistan and Iraq by an aircraft is painstaking and extensive (which it should be). I was part of a team that would get a page (yes a page) and be summoned to view a target and provide a recommendation on whether we should strike the target or not. We watched live feeds for hours to ensure there were no innocents or kids etc. before we struck. We had to have clear evidence there was a terrorist, he had a weapon and he was a legitimate target. We did this with every single target.

I can't tell you home many times we were accused of hitting a mosque or whatever by the Taliban. So here's what we did. We took the heads up display from the aircraft that dropped the bomb and we watched the video. The video was then released to the press. There was a time when we watched 15-20 scumbags kill a bunch of people then take sanctuary in a mosque because they heard aircraft overhead. Guess what? They died in that mosque.

I guess what I'm telling you is you shouldn't believe whatever MSNBC tells you about war. I've been there and seen it. We take extreme precaution when it comes to targeting enemies. When that decision is made, you can't bring it back. The professionals there take it really serious.

 

[CarolinaKid]

im proud to be a AMERICAN again........

 

[vitterd]

im proud to be a AMERICAN again........

I doubt America is proud of you.

 

[Acebb]

I'd be worried too if I were an innocent civilian attending a wedding. Took "Mad Dog" 30 seconds to give the order to murder 42 civilian men, women and children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/24/iraq-wedding-party-video-backs-survivors-claims.html

I see you've picked up the "I'll be gullible and post stupid and false claims as fact" baton from guesser.

Great job.

 

[Acebb]

 

[Acebb]

[FONT=&quot]The letter Gen. Mattis wrote to his men on the eve of the 2003 invasion of Iraq

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[Enfuego]

I see you've picked up the "I'll be gullible and post stupid and false claims as fact" baton from guesser.

Great job.

Anyone that cites wiki as a credible news source has some things to think about.

 

[mango]

Pretty clear you didn't even read the material in your own link.

Video footage obtained by the Associated Press seems to contradict this view. The video shows a series of scenes of a wedding celebration, and footage from the following day showing fragments of musical instruments, pots and pans and brightly colored beddings used for celebrations, scattered around a destroyed tent.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]

Apparently you don't take your own advice since you quoted the part that says video proof contradicts "Mad Dog's" views. I also linked a Fox News article that contradicts it also which you conveniently ignored. The fact that "Mad Dog" took all of 30 seconds to murder dozens of innocent civilians then justified it even in the face of video proof worries me. But those who commit war crimes never admit to it, do they?

 

[mango]

Anyone that cites wiki as a credible news source has some things to think about.

Wiki cites their sources, which are often as long as the article itself. Right-wing blogs (that you guys often cite) never do. Guess which is more credible?

 

[Slurve~Ball]

Wiki cites their sources, which are often as long as the article itself. Right-wing blogs (that you guys often cite) never do. Guess which is more credible?

So if wiki sites a website, that makes it correct?

 

[mango]

So if wiki sites a website, that makes it correct?

That's up to the reader to decide. The point is they're not some giant blog that makes stuff up out of thin air.

 

[Shub]

That's up to the reader to decide. The point is they're not some giant blog that makes stuff up out of thin air.

cant argue with these people.

 

[ML Dog]

cant argue with these people.

What would you and mango propose as an alternative?

To deal with Fundamental Islam and the deadly flaws within the "Religion"?

You guys seem to object to a Military Solution, to any degree whatsoever

would it be your's and mango's preference that they be allowed to Conquest?

To do as they please?

What suggestions, ideas would you and mango prefer?

 

[Enfuego]

Apparently you don't take your own advice since you quoted the part that says video proof contradicts "Mad Dog's" views. I also linked a Fox News article that contradicts it also which you conveniently ignored. The fact that "Mad Dog" took all of 30 seconds to murder dozens of innocent civilians then justified it even in the face of video proof worries me. But those who commit war crimes never admit to it, do they?

Well, I speak from experience. You're speaking from a sweatshop in Arizona or somewhere.

Bottom line is this. The US Generals in charge of operations that day refused to apologize and are adamant they hit a legitimate target and they felt there was no wedding.

From being there and having experience time and time again these people, I can tell you first hand they lie. The Taliban just flat out gin up the propaganda machine to make it appear as if we struck a civilian target. We've proven time and time again they're full of shit. If you want to believe them this time, that's on you.

Certainly there have been times where US AC have hit unauthorized targets during OIF/OEF. In those times, the US has apologized, made payments to the families and acknowledged wrongdoing and senior officers were relieved of duty.

What is your experience in this arena may I ask?

 

[Enfuego]

That's up to the reader to decide. The point is they're not some giant blog that makes stuff up out of thin air.

Uh, yes they are. The users are the ones that provide the information. Anyone can say anything they want on Wiki.

 

[Enfuego]

Apparently you don't take your own advice since you quoted the part that says video proof contradicts "Mad Dog's" views. I also linked a Fox News article that contradicts it also which you conveniently ignored. The fact that "Mad Dog" took all of 30 seconds to murder dozens of innocent civilians then justified it even in the face of video proof worries me. But those who commit war crimes never admit to it, do they?

Guy served 40+ years honorably in the USMC. That's probably 40+ years longer than you've been alive. He has a spotless record. He is loved by the troops of all branches and held in the highest regard. You don't sniff his boxers.

 

[vitterd]

I will just say this.....ISIS will not be any more scared because of this hire. ISIS are maniac killers and they don't care who is president or secretary of defense. These animals just kill no matter what.....no Orange skin reality show loud mouth or some old white tough talking general with a nickname concerns them.

I hope he kills them all but none of them are scared.....killing and being killed is part of the job for those scumbags

 

[Enfuego]

I will just say this.....ISIS will not be any more scared because of this hire. ISIS are maniac killers and they don't care who is president or secretary of defense. These animals just kill no matter what.....no Orange skin reality show loud mouth or some old white tough talking general with a nickname concerns them.

I hope he kills them all but none of them are scared.....killing and being killed is part of the job for those scumbags

The #1 reason for joining ISIS is for young men to get paid more and provide a better life for family members. This has been shown in interviews with ISIS defectors. What's happening is they join, then realize what they're being asked to do really sucks and the life isn't so great and they begin to rethink their decision. By that time, most of the time, it's too late.

 

[mango]

Well, I speak from experience. You're speaking from a sweatshop in Arizona or somewhere.

Bottom line is this. The US Generals in charge of operations that day refused to apologize and are adamant they hit a legitimate target and they felt there was no wedding.

From being there and having experience time and time again these people, I can tell you first hand they lie. The Taliban just flat out gin up the propaganda machine to make it appear as if we struck a civilian target. We've proven time and time again they're full of shit. If you want to believe them this time, that's on you.

Certainly there have been times where US AC have hit unauthorized targets during OIF/OEF. In those times, the US has apologized, made payments to the families and acknowledged wrongdoing and senior officers were relieved of duty.

What is your experience in this arena may I ask?

Sweatshop in AZ? Sounds racist.

So the many hours of video showing the bride, the groom and their families having a wedding celebration was propaganda created by the Taliban (didn't know they were occupying Iraq) in anticipation that the location would be bombed the next morning?

You do realize you sound pretty crazy with these accusations, right?