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I've read this now twice in two days on these goofy forums. Who in their right mind believes this to be true?

Now's the time to step up and admit you're a moron.
 

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no. cousins hasnt proven anything. dont know who is stupid enough to say that other then white males who are jealous of rg3 being worshipped by whites
 

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Ok, good because this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on a sports forum.
 

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Just people hating on RG3. A lot of it seems to be stemming from the fact that RG3 is black and they think he just relies on scrambling.
 

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hahaha.....that is hilarious

i'm not going to say the potential isn't there, but who are we kidding, RG3 is playing A-tier football right now
 

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I've read this now twice in two days on these goofy forums. Who in their right mind believes this to be true?

Now's the time to step up and admit you're a moron.
I admit that I am a Moron but we shouldn't slander Cousins here, it's not his fault that people say stupid things about him and RGIII!
 

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I admit that I am a Moron but we shouldn't slander Cousins here, it's not his fault that people say stupid things about him and RGIII!

I dont get the impression that anyone is slandering cousins, but he just doesn't compare to RG3. It was funny, at one point RG3 had thrown however many passes thru 15 weeks and had 3(maybe 4) ints and Cousins had like 15 attempts and 3 interceptions. As a skins fan, Im glad we have them both
 

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I dont get the impression that anyone is slandering cousins, but he just doesn't compare to RG3. It was funny, at one point RG3 had thrown however many passes thru 15 weeks and had 3(maybe 4) ints and Cousins had like 15 attempts and 3 interceptions. As a skins fan, Im glad we have them both
I agree wholeheartedly but my point was that Nobody believes that Cousins is RGIII's equal so whoever posed the poll/question is the idiot/moron here!
 

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I agree wholeheartedly but my point was that Nobody believes that Cousins is RGIII's equal so whoever posed the poll/question is the idiot/moron here!

Na, it was in response to one guy who has been posting here recently claiming Cousins is better than RG3 and that Luck is so much better than him. OP also said he saw it being said somewhere else. Enfuego is just trying to make sure the rest of the world is sane and that these few people are outliers
 

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Na, it was in response to one guy who has been posting here recently claiming Cousins is better than RG3 and that Luck is so much better than him. OP also said he saw it being said somewhere else. Enfuego is just trying to make sure the rest of the world is sane and that these few people are outliers
My bad. I forget how many nutcases are out there. Let me clarify - No Body in their right mind believes that, right now, Cousins is better than RGIII and for anybody to say so, is clearly, a Moron!
 
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Why is the thought that Cousins could be better than RG version 42 so slanderous? In 1 single start, he threw for more yards than RG 42 has in all of the others. RG 42 has been just playing it safe all year

Look, yes, it does have something to do with race but race and history are on my side here.

If you are not a pocket passer, you will not be successful in the NFL. If you do not have a high IQ at the quarterback position, you will not be successful in the NFL.

Come on RG 42, was another couple inches on that Ngata hit from missing the rest of this year and likely most of next year never regaining "full strength" until 2014 season.

And since I know race will come up anyway, black quarterbacks generally have the shelf life of a running back and that is once they are 30, they are generally done. (Vince Young, Michael Vick)....I heard this same crap i hear now back in 2006 and 2007 about Vince Young from this forum, SBR, Doc's forum (whatever his name is on here) and everyone said the same thing they said then they are saying now. (Gynocologist will vouch on this) . These guys just are not cut out for NFL QB positions. It is not racist. Fort example, in high school, it is prob. better to have a black quarterback than a white one because that black guy can just use his athleticism to beat everyone prob. like Vince Young and Vick did in high school./

Long term, not enough sample size on Cousins, but I would take him over RG 42 long term. You will see. 3 or 4 years from now, it will be the same thing. Off season defenses will adjust to their gimmick pistol/ read option high school BS offense and all of a sudden next year, you know what we will hear from ESPN? One reporter will say "what is wrong with RG 42", while the other will come up with every imagineable excuse in the book blaming his line, lack of playmakers, etc.

Basically, guys like RG 42 continually regress, meaning this is the best you will see him be while guys like Luck, Peyton Manning( greatest QB ever), Brady, Eli, Brees, Rodgers all PROGRESSED. How can you aregue this. sorry, but part of it is skin color as it correlates to speed and most importantly IQ. The Colts are doing exactly with Luck that they did to Manning his rookie year. Throw him the entire playbook and you see how far he has come from week 1 vs the bears to now.

And speaking of regression, wasn't it last year at this time, everyone was raving about Cam newton? He has regressed and you have seen his best football.

As far as the point of Cousins vs RG 42, right now, I can't say difinitively he is better because he has played 1 game, but I will say statistically 3 years from now, he likely will be. The good thing about guys like Cousins is you can tell pretty fast if it will work for them as they are pocket passers and do not need the gimicky wildcat/ pistol offenses. Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers this year, but there is a reason for that. He is dropping back 50 times a game and throwing it down the field more than any other NFL QB (same thing Manning did his rookie season when he threw 28 picks). The Colts lead the NFL in plays over 20 yards.

I guess it is this simple. Prototypical pocket passer with high IQ, size, and accurate arm will beat "athlete" quarterback just like books will win in long term. The athlete may get a nice 16 yard scramble on 3rd and 15 every now and then, but long term, they do not stay healthy.

One last poinrt, I did not even bring up actually staying on the field. redskins fans, you trust RG 42 to be on the field all 16 games? haha. Luck has the worst offensive line in the NFL and hasn't missed a SINGLE PLAY THIS YEAR JUST LIKE MANNING IN 1998. That is play, not game.

Lets see, Vick ( missed entire year after running around in preseason game, broken leg)
Vince Young ( in 6 NFL seasons, never played in all 16 games, and played in less than half in those seasons)
McNabb (although he thought he was a pocket passer, he proved he had a low IQ and he was always hurt)
RG 42 already has missed 1 game and it could have easily been much worse
Cam Newton: Low IQ, has half ass attitude, cares more about a superman pose, and has won I think 10 total games in 2 years)

some will yell "bigot" or "racist" "moron" or whatever, i have heard it all before online and some offline. But you know, I would never draft a white running back either in the 1st or 2nd round. So I must hate the most discriminated race in america too, the white male.

As a colt fan last april, I felt a little uneasy about the draft heading into april. Was relieved to see the colts didn't get caught up in the PC movement and did the best thing.
 

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Why is the thought that Cousins could be better than RG version 42 so slanderous? In 1 single start, he threw for more yards than RG 42 has in all of the others. RG 42 has been just playing it safe all year

Look, yes, it does have something to do with race but race and history are on my side here.

If you are not a pocket passer, you will not be successful in the NFL. If you do not have a high IQ at the quarterback position, you will not be successful in the NFL.

Come on RG 42, was another couple inches on that Ngata hit from missing the rest of this year and likely most of next year never regaining "full strength" until 2014 season.

And since I know race will come up anyway, black quarterbacks generally have the shelf life of a running back and that is once they are 30, they are generally done. (Vince Young, Michael Vick)....I heard this same crap i hear now back in 2006 and 2007 about Vince Young from this forum, SBR, Doc's forum (whatever his name is on here) and everyone said the same thing they said then they are saying now. (Gynocologist will vouch on this) . These guys just are not cut out for NFL QB positions. It is not racist. Fort example, in high school, it is prob. better to have a black quarterback than a white one because that black guy can just use his athleticism to beat everyone prob. like Vince Young and Vick did in high school./

Long term, not enough sample size on Cousins, but I would take him over RG 42 long term. You will see. 3 or 4 years from now, it will be the same thing. Off season defenses will adjust to their gimmick pistol/ read option high school BS offense and all of a sudden next year, you know what we will hear from ESPN? One reporter will say "what is wrong with RG 42", while the other will come up with every imagineable excuse in the book blaming his line, lack of playmakers, etc.

Basically, guys like RG 42 continually regress, meaning this is the best you will see him be while guys like Luck, Peyton Manning( greatest QB ever), Brady, Eli, Brees, Rodgers all PROGRESSED. How can you aregue this. sorry, but part of it is skin color as it correlates to speed and most importantly IQ. The Colts are doing exactly with Luck that they did to Manning his rookie year. Throw him the entire playbook and you see how far he has come from week 1 vs the bears to now.

And speaking of regression, wasn't it last year at this time, everyone was raving about Cam newton? He has regressed and you have seen his best football.

As far as the point of Cousins vs RG 42, right now, I can't say difinitively he is better because he has played 1 game, but I will say statistically 3 years from now, he likely will be. The good thing about guys like Cousins is you can tell pretty fast if it will work for them as they are pocket passers and do not need the gimicky wildcat/ pistol offenses. Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers this year, but there is a reason for that. He is dropping back 50 times a game and throwing it down the field more than any other NFL QB (same thing Manning did his rookie season when he threw 28 picks). The Colts lead the NFL in plays over 20 yards.

I guess it is this simple. Prototypical pocket passer with high IQ, size, and accurate arm will beat "athlete" quarterback just like books will win in long term. The athlete may get a nice 16 yard scramble on 3rd and 15 every now and then, but long term, they do not stay healthy.

One last poinrt, I did not even bring up actually staying on the field. redskins fans, you trust RG 42 to be on the field all 16 games? haha. Luck has the worst offensive line in the NFL and hasn't missed a SINGLE PLAY THIS YEAR JUST LIKE MANNING IN 1998. That is play, not game.

Lets see, Vick ( missed entire year after running around in preseason game, broken leg)
Vince Young ( in 6 NFL seasons, never played in all 16 games, and played in less than half in those seasons)
McNabb (although he thought he was a pocket passer, he proved he had a low IQ and he was always hurt)
RG 42 already has missed 1 game and it could have easily been much worse
Cam Newton: Low IQ, has half ass attitude, cares more about a superman pose, and has won I think 10 total games in 2 years)

some will yell "bigot" or "racist" "moron" or whatever, i have heard it all before online and some offline. But you know, I would never draft a white running back either in the 1st or 2nd round. So I must hate the most discriminated race in america too, the white male.

As a colt fan last april, I felt a little uneasy about the draft heading into april. Was relieved to see the colts didn't get caught up in the PC movement and did the best thing.

You didn't say he could be better than RGIII. You said he is better than RGIII.
 

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thegreatonereturns is the white jealous male i talked about in my first post in this thread.

rg3 can read defenses and play a pocket game. he has great running skills so they utliize that as well. he is not a vince young. vince young was stupi and had no arm to begin with and was a scrambler predominantly. rg3 had offers for stanford he turned down for baylor.

this is just an attempt by a jealous white male to knock rg3 because rg3 has whites, specifically white women worshipping him, and even one being engaged to him.
 
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OK, I think he is better than RG 42 right now, but that is not proven. In my above argument, I prefer to lay out facts for the inevitable " you are just an ignorant racist" typical crap.

I think if RG 42 played in all 16 games (or 15 in his case) and Cousins played all 16 games, i think the redskins record would be better and his stats would be better and the franchise would be better off in the future.

RG version 42 missed an entire year at Baylor due to knee injury too, who really would trust your franchise with this guy.

To me, the question is, will the rams make something of the picks they got for RG 42

I don't know how redskins fans can really feel secure with RG 42, i know when Luck throws a pick, I am just thinking "Luck get down, get down" because he sprints after interceptor as much as possible and has taken a couple hard hits from it.
 
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thegreatonereturns is the white jealous male i talked about in my first post in this thread.

rg3 can read defenses and play a pocket game. he has great running skills so they utliize that as well. he is not a vince young. vince young was stupi and had no arm to begin with and was a scrambler predominantly. rg3 had offers for stanford he turned down for baylor.

this is just an attempt by a jealous white male to knock rg3 because rg3 has whites, specifically white women worshipping him, and even one being engaged to him.


Yes, that is it, I am jealous of some skank wanting some big black dick because you do not see that often in 2012. She may be the only skank to screw a professional arthlete. I would respect said slut more if she did it in 1954.

His pocket game is great as long as he is playing on a 12 yard field.
 

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They are totally different qbs. It would be interesting how many games they win if Cousins started them all.
 

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