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The Sandy money is a different subject. On this subject though, he's gonna get off the hook on it unless they prove on paper that he knew it. I doubt anyone sings that tune. Who the hell knows whether he did or not. I'd say no because retribution towards that mayor was a joke. The guy's a nobody. I think this was a bunch of blowhards flexing their wanna be muscles and they fucked up. Doesn't mean Christie isn't a douche or hasn't done a lot worse in his political career. I just don't think he was in the know on this one. I have no real opinion of him to be honest.

But hate him or love him, I recognize talent when I see it and today was one of the best damage control shows I've ever seen. He's got talent and personally I think he will beat the fuck out of anyone on the right in a debate. From what I've seen he's got Clinton (Bill) level skills in that dept. Just my opinion...Don't know shit about anything else about him.

Why did he decide to stick it to a nobody? Why did Nixon authorize Watergate-HIS "I knew nothing about it" story didn't ultimiately wash, either, don't forget-when he was in the process of slaughtering McGovern already anyway? Scorpion and the frog, Jack-it's his nature. They mentioned 6 or 7 organizations that are just starting to dig, and a lawsuit over that dead 91 year lady is coming, just as sure as I'm sitting here. That chick Kelly has disappeared, and they are already showing guys from Christie's camp taking the fifth today, fer crissakes. The shit is just beginning to hit the fan, mark my words...
 

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And if you don't like the way your government is performing, you can vote in someone else. This is not a dictatorship..Well..not exactly...it is from the perspective that business buys the govt...and on and on we go.

They BOTH suck, sheriff. Anyone with common sense understands that. But you MUST have a govt. The "idea" of America, self governance through a govt of the people, for the people and by the people is STILL the best idea going. It's not really turned out that way now because govt has turned into a business that is bought and paid for by other businesses, especially on the fed level. Until you take the money out of elections that will never change.

I understand the definition of tyranny. We don't have tyranny here, Sherrif. We have Corporatocracy.

Sorry, you don't "vote out" a government bureaucracy or agency.

If I get into a pissing match with the IRS or EPA, doesn't matter what party is in charge...I'm still gonna have men show up at my door with guns pointing in my face.

Your "Corporatocracy" doesn't exist. Corporations have as much power as Big Government gives them.

It's like this: in free market capitalism, you buy a red tie, I buy a green tie, (or no tie at all) - everyone is happy. With fascism/socialism/statism everyone is forced to buy the same shitty tie and one side is ALWAYS going to be bitching - winners vs losers determined by nothing more than raw political power.

It is a piss-poor inefficient and ineffective way to run an economy and society.
 

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Sorry, you don't "vote out" a government bureaucracy or agency.

If I get into a pissing match with the IRS or EPA, doesn't matter what party is in charge...I'm still gonna have men show up at my door with guns pointing in my face.

Your "Corporatocracy" doesn't exist. Corporations have as much power as Big Government gives them.

It's like this: in free market capitalism, you buy a red tie, I buy a green tie, (or no tie at all) - everyone is happy. With fascism/socialism/statism everyone is forced to buy the same shitty tie and one side is ALWAYS going to be bitching - winners vs losers determined by nothing more than raw political power.

It is a piss-poor inefficient and ineffective way to run an economy and society.

Well I will agree to disagree...I absolutely believe it's a Corporatocracy. The dumbasses on the left actually believe the Dems are on labor's side. Pfttt..that's a joke. Dems abandoned labor a LONG LONG time ago (70's). Repubs don't make any qualms about it. They are bought and paid for and damn proud of it.

Leaders of BOTH SIDES are paid off and ultimately do what they're told or face the wrath of money when it comes election time. You are blind if you think those bastards are not bought and paid for.

But as I said...I will just agree to disagree and move on...
 

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Why did he decide to stick it to a nobody? Why did Nixon authorize Watergate-HIS "I knew nothing about it" story didn't ultimiately wash, either, don't forget-when he was in the process of slaughtering McGovern already anyway? Scorpion and the frog, Jack-it's his nature. They mentioned 6 or 7 organizations that are just starting to dig, and a lawsuit over that dead 91 year lady is coming, just as sure as I'm sitting here. That chick Kelly has disappeared, and they are already showing guys from Christie's camp taking the fifth today, fer crissakes. The shit is just beginning to hit the fan, mark my words...

This is the biggest mystery, and whether Christie himself, or the arrogant attitude of his underlings, you nailed it. Abusing power just because you can, not because you have to.
 

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Well I will agree to disagree...I absolutely believe it's a Corporatocracy. The dumbasses on the left actually believe the Dems are on labor's side. Pfttt..that's a joke. Dems abandoned labor a LONG LONG time ago (70's). Repubs don't make any qualms about it. They are bought and paid for and damn proud of it.

Leaders of BOTH SIDES are paid off and ultimately do what they're told or face the wrath of money when it comes election time. You are blind if you think those bastards are not bought and paid for.

But as I said...I will just agree to disagree and move on...

But that's the thing, WVJOE...we don't disagree at all.

If "BOTH SIDES are paid off" as you say (I don't disagree), then BIG GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!

Just who the fuck gave the ruling class this much power in the first place???

This is system is beyond corrupt and broken. Don't you see that?
 

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Figures the only politician that gives a shit about legalizing gambling is getting roasted.

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From what I see the Communist Liberal Democrats are trying to make a mountain out of a frigging molehill..........Traffic Jam on GW bridge what a joke. in Fort Lea,NJ happens everyday on that rip off of a bridge....LMAO........They will have to do a LOT better than that to hurt Christie..........!
 

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From what I see the Communist Liberal Democrats are trying to make a mountain out of a frigging molehill..........Traffic Jam on GW bridge what a joke. in Fort Lea,NJ happens everyday on that rip off of a bridge....LMAO........They will have to do a LOT better than that to hurt Christie..........!

Hahahaha. Everything obama does you guys make into a mountain...but it's always a molehill when a repub is involved. Christie is way to moderate for you and joe.
 

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From what I see the Communist Liberal Democrats are trying to make a mountain out of a frigging molehill..........Traffic Jam on GW bridge what a joke. in Fort Lea,NJ happens everyday on that rip off of a bridge....LMAO........They will have to do a LOT better than that to hurt Christie..........!

I'm curious, Oh Clueless Lying Putz, is the Daily News a group of "...Communist Liberal Democrats are trying to make a mountain out of a frigging molehill?"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...paper-Thug-Christie-is-Finished?detail=email#
 
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[ At least Christie held his staff accountable, unlike the vile shit-stain in the White House ]

[h=1]Tea Party Patriots: Unlike Christie, Obama Hasn't Held Staff Accountable[/h]
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[h=2]Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder and National Coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots, said her group was still waiting for President Barack Obama to hold any of his own top officials accountable as Chris Christie did on Thursday.[/h] The Republican New Jersey Governor fired two of his top aides Thursday for their roles in closing down lanes on the George Washington Bridge to allegedly enact political revenge on a New Jersey mayor.
The closures impacted children going to schools and caused massive traffic delays that even resulted in the death of woman when EMT vehicles and first responders were delayed.
"Abuse of power by government officials is wrong, whether it's closing lanes in Ft. Lee, using the IRS to target political opponents, or waiving the law regarding ObamaCare," Martin said in a statement. "Today, Gov. Christie held some subordinates accountable. Time will tell whether this is enough. We're still waiting for President Obama to hold anyone accountable."
President Barack Obama has not fired any of the top officials involved in scandals in his Department of Justice (Fast and Furious), Health and Human Services Department (Obamacare), or State Department (Benghazi).
 

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[ At least Christie held his staff accountable, unlike the vile shit-stain in the White House ]

[h=1]Tea Party Patriots: Unlike Christie, Obama Hasn't Held Staff Accountable[/h]
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[h=2]Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder and National Coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots, said her group was still waiting for President Barack Obama to hold any of his own top officials accountable as Chris Christie did on Thursday.[/h] The Republican New Jersey Governor fired two of his top aides Thursday for their roles in closing down lanes on the George Washington Bridge to allegedly enact political revenge on a New Jersey mayor.
The closures impacted children going to schools and caused massive traffic delays that even resulted in the death of woman when EMT vehicles and first responders were delayed.
"Abuse of power by government officials is wrong, whether it's closing lanes in Ft. Lee, using the IRS to target political opponents, or waiving the law regarding ObamaCare," Martin said in a statement. "Today, Gov. Christie held some subordinates accountable. Time will tell whether this is enough. We're still waiting for President Obama to hold anyone accountable."
President Barack Obama has not fired any of the top officials involved in scandals in his Department of Justice (Fast and Furious), Health and Human Services Department (Obamacare), or State Department (Benghazi).

Firing a subordinate to save your own ass....not exactly a leadership quality. Christie has lied in the past about not knowing things. Let's see how this plays out.
 

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Christie really took a big chance yesterday that no other staffer will ever say he knew (if he did know anything) added to the fact that we don't know how this woman will react. Perhaps she has emails or texts?
 

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Christie really took a big chance yesterday that no other staffer will ever say he knew (if he did know anything) added to the fact that we don't know how this woman will react. Perhaps she has emails or texts?

Put himself into a corner with when he knew also. He better hope this woman doesn't have a difft story.
 

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Firing a subordinate to save your own ass....not exactly a leadership quality. Christie has lied in the past about not knowing things. Let's see how this plays out.

And keeping incompetent subordinates is?
 

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Christie really took a big chance yesterday that no other staffer will ever say he knew (if he did know anything) added to the fact that we don't know how this woman will react. Perhaps she has emails or texts?

Yes he did. Look before you leap.
 

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Put himself into a corner with when he knew also. He better hope this woman doesn't have a difft story.

he's throwing aides and close associates under the bus so fast it's hard to keep track, and apparently at least 4 of them are gonna be subpoenaed. Can't imagine they're gonna risk possible jail time for themselves when they roll over on Tubby instead. This is sweeeeeeeeet!
 

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And keeping incompetent subordinates is?

Political retribution is a fact of life. I don't even consider it a big deal. Had this thing been found out internally.....this woman would be at her office today. I don't think she is incompetent....poor choice to handle it this way and im sure she didnt realize or think thru the possible consequences.....but christie is a vindictive guy and it is shown thru his staff.
 

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