Ireland Votes to Approve Gay Marriage, Putting Country in Vanguard

[festeringZit]

I fully acknowledge that the "trend is not my friend" on this issue... society seems to be moving towards embracing gay marriage, and trying to
"normalize" the lifestyle. My position is that this is a deleterious mistake that will have dire consequences - especially towards our children and
the generations to come.

 

[Bourn]

Not at all, I answered it indirectly, and for now I'll answer it with a rhetorical question for you:

Why don't you choose to be a pedophile for a day, is that going to work for you, going after kiddies?

No

See how easy that is? You ask a question and asked me to answer, so i did. Can you do that?

 

[Bourn]

FZ you proclaim to be an educated man with multiple degrees yet you cant even answer a simple yes or no answer.

 

[festeringZit]

No

See how easy that is? You ask a question and asked me to answer, so i did. Can you do that?

Heterosexuality and marriage being between one man and one woman is the way we were designed, it is normal behavior.

Homosexuality, whether from a predisposition or from pure choice is deviant, immoral behavior and is harmful to people, and
harmful to society - and society should not encourage it.

Now to answer your question, could I go out and choose to be gay? No, because I am normal, non-deviant.

 

[festeringZit]

FZ you proclaim to be an educated man with multiple degrees yet you cant even answer a simple yes or no answer.

I answered it many times, I hope my latest post is clear enough for you.

 

[HarryCaray]

I answered it many times, I hope my latest post is clear enough for you.

Just to play referee for a moment (I have no dog in this fight):

He is asking if you think it's physically possible for you to become aroused with another man. You are avoiding directly answering this question because your answer is likely "no", which strengthens his argument that it is something biologically determined, not chosen.

 

[barman]

"Spiritual law" is a warmed over synonym for quantum physics and is a useful expression for those either unaware or perhaps uncomfortable with the science of QP.

In either case, going backwards is not possible in either the spiritual or temporal universe as we know it. Only expansion is possible.

Resisting expansion is the cause of all discomfort, illness, pain and unhappiness.

Thus we encourage non-resistance and instead encourage going with the flow.

Your own choice might be otherwise. Simply realize that the resultant unhappiness, stress and pain you feel is utterly self-induced

 

[barman]

My position is that this is a deleterious mistake that will have dire consequences - especially towards our children and
the generations to come.

One of my business partners married her wife this past March. (In Florida I might add, something that was not possible as recently as six months ago. They thought they might have to go to their home state of Massachusetts)

Please advise the dire consequences of her marriage with regard to your own children.

 

[barman]

(I have no dog in this fight):

If you did, his name would probably be Sparky, the gay dog from Season One of Southpark.

That was when we all learned something today. thanks to Uncle Jimbo

That is - "We're all a LITTLE BIT gay"

 

[Bourn]

Heterosexuality and marriage being between one man and one woman is the way we were designed, it is normal behavior.

Homosexuality, whether from a predisposition or from pure choice is deviant, immoral behavior and is harmful to people, and
harmful to society - and society should not encourage it.

Now to answer your question, could I go out and choose to be gay? No, because I am normal, non-deviant.

Now, that wasnt so hard, right? So every homosexual in the history of mankind is or was not normal and they are all deviant?

This will go nowhere and im bored. Good luck with your self righteous beliefs and superiority. You seem like a very logical, well roundeed human being.

 

[festeringZit]

Now, that wasnt so hard, right? So every homosexual in the history of mankind is or was not normal and they are all deviant?

This will go nowhere and im bored. Good luck with your self righteous beliefs and superiority. You seem like a very logical, well roundeed human being.

Like I said, my position is the one that Judeo-Christian (and most all other) societies held for thousands of years. It has nothing to do with your "self-righteous, superiority" slur.

 

[Bourn]

I answered it many times, I hope my latest post is clear enough for you.

I orginally asked about 5 copy and pastes ago from you. I guess my clear request for a yes or no answer nothing more wasnt clear enough for you. I will try and dumb down my basic question for you next time because that was clearly too much for you to process since it took you over an hour to finally answer.

 

[barman]

FZ - Why dont you for arguments sake choose to be gay for a day and go find a male to get naked with. Do you think you are going to be able to get hard and perform sexual acts?.

Should mention that your Proposed Experiment requires some logical control factors to be considered.

Is ZIT going Full Monty with another dude who would be considered "hot" by popular standards or is he getting naked with a guy like forum agitator AKPHIDELT?

Also, has ZIT been enjoying reasonably regular sexual release via some combination of his Lovely Wife and his right hand, or has he just been released from prison following after doing a year minus a day?

"I've been in prison for the past three years. My dick gets hard when the wind blows!" -- Reggie Hammond

 

[TomGshotput]

My position is that this is a deleterious mistake that will have dire consequences - especially towards our children and
the generations to come.

Gay marriage has been around for a while now in some places. Other than single people now having to subsidize a larger number of people who identify with the marriage culture, what deleterious effects have their been? Using your logic, hasn't the rate of AIDS in communities that allow gay marriage dropped? While the communities that have seen the largest increase in AIDS rates all ban gay marriage?

 

[Bourn]

Should mention that your Proposed Experiment requires some logical control factors to be considered.

Is ZIT going Full Monty with another dude who would be considered "hot" by popular standards or is he getting naked with a guy like forum agitator AKPHIDELT?

Also, has ZIT been enjoying reasonably regular sexual release via some combination of his Lovely Wife and his right hand, or has he just been released from prison following after doing a year minus a day?

"I've been in prison for the past three years. My dick gets hard when the wind blows!" -- Reggie Hammond

My honest psychological profile on FZ is that he is a flaming queen who is struggling both spiritually and mentally with his inner battle on the fact he is gay and doesnt want to be.

 

[festeringZit]

Gay marriage has been around for a while now in some places. Other than single people now having to subsidize a larger number of people who identify with the marriage culture, what deleterious effects have their been? Using your logic, hasn't the rate of AIDS in communities that allow gay marriage dropped? While the communities that have seen the largest increase in AIDS rates all ban gay marriage?

I haven't seen any studies that would show what you are claiming. I do know that according to the CDC, the HIV rates among the gay population in the US is very alarming:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

 

[festeringZit]

My honest psychological profile on FZ is that he is a flaming queen who is struggling both spiritually and mentally with his inner battle on the fact he is gay and doesnt want to be.

Why all the childish rhetoric? I thought we were trying to have an adult discussion?

 

[JustinCruise]

So in the first post he celebrates the freedom of one group of people as a sign that the human race is evolving because people are now getting their just human rights. Then in the very next sentence goes on to throw half the world under the bus wanting to abolish religion like that is not a human right.

Then in post #2 he becomes the authority on forum credibility . This coming from the same guy who banned himself for a year and should not even be posting right now till October . But this guy somehow decides who's credible.

Another way to lose that credibility is by chasing every post a particular poster creates and bashing it.

At that point you aren't debating anymore you are just trolling.


You can not possibly disagree with everything one poster says just like you can't 100 percent agree with everything another poster says.


You have become nothing more than a common Internet troll.

 

[Bourn]

Why all the childish rhetoric? I thought we were trying to have an adult discussion?

I was just kidding. It just baffles me how you think people choose to be gay. I had a weak moment and i apologize.

 

[TomGshotput]

I haven't seen any studies that would show what you are claiming. I do know that according to the CDC, the HIV rates among the gay population in the US is very alarming:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

It was like that 30 years ago, so can't say it's come about from them being allowed to get married (interestingly, it's also only gay men, according to your data gay women have fewer cases of AIDS than the straights). The one group where the rate of AIDS is even higher than gay men is needle drug users. Why isn't anyone fighting against their right to get married?

Your inability to offer any deleterious effects in the places that did implement gay marriage says an awful lot about your position.