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My analogy is that if you want to play Poker then all the rules and etiquette that are associated with it go with that game and that if you feel that it is "unfriendly" to do that then you should take up something a little more friendly like ballet, charity work or playing "Snap"
LMFAO!!!

No pun intended Fat Tony, but this post by valueman is a fvcking classic!!!

BTW, it's good that you buried the douche bag on that hand, anyway... But... I agree with other posters here, playing poker without check-raising is like fvcking a flat chested chick with a huge flabby ass... :BLUEGUY:
 

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I don't see anything wrong with that whatsoever. if anything I would encourage it exactly that, for fun!!
 

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Some of you guys are RUTHLESS...

Checking and Betting is anything but FRIENDLY and I remember as a kid, lightyears ago, that if anyone tried to check and bet in one of our FRIENDLY games, he got criticized and yelled at for doing so...

THE SHRINK
 

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If a check-raise is considered bad, you should just be playing war or showdown.
 

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Christ, maybe It is me, as my wife likes to say. I check raise my twin daughters when I try to show them math probabilty's. BTW there two and a half years old and I always thought it was a good learning tool for the future. It's not like I'm playing for there college funds, just there allowance.
 

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Heres a thought:

Take the skirt off you *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boo hoo you got check raised

Would you cry when a pitcher throws you a curveball in a baseball game?

I hope you whole stack got taken
 

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Check-raising is a part of poker strategy. Not only does if offer an opportunity to get more $$ when you have a hand, it also "teaches" guys that they shouldn't bet behind you unless they have a hand. This "lesson" gives you an opportunity to get free cards to increase the probability of getting a card that improves your hand. Additionally, if the stakes are large enough and the players are good enough, you can use it as a sign of strength even when you are on a pure bluff.

I play in friendly games and sure check raising is not loved by all but it is an important part of the game.

If it is seen as poor form to check-raise, then just say it is against the rules.
 

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Let me ask you all a question. If your friend is getting killed playing, and he's down to his last $20, would you do it to him? And if you say yes, tell me that friend wouldn't have a problem with it.
 

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Fat Tony said:
Let me ask you all a question. If your friend is getting killed playing, and he's down to his last $20, would you do it to him? And if you say yes, tell me that friend wouldn't have a problem with it.
I don't know what you mean by his last $20. Do you mean his last $20 to lose for the night? His last $20 in his pocket and bank account? Actually, what you mean is irrelevant.

As all things in poker, it depends. I check raise his ass 100% if I think I have the best hand and he'll bet and call my raise. I however would not check raise him if the pot was large and I was on a bluff because he couldn't reasonably lay his hand down.

I do not know your friends but my friends and I play poker for the comaraderie and competition. Very few play for $$ (although $$ is the only way to keep score). Most of us are competitive and to play "soft" would be seen as weak. To answer your question, in our game as long as a play abides by the generally known rules of the game it is ok and no one will get upset.

Once a new player to the game got upset with me for a check-raise and I proceeded to say "if you don't like it, then don't bet behind me." The other players jumped on the guy and said that everything is ok as long as it doesn't violate a rule. For me, the free cards are worth way more than the extra bets from the raise.

The most important thing to remember is that no one I play with plays poker for his "last" anything. We play stakes that are quite meaningful but no one will be bankrupted by playing for a night. When we play and someone gets buried, we ALL feel bad but take comfort in knowing that he will be back to drink and have fun the next week or month.

BTW, the one rule that we do not follow is verbal string betting. We don't have angle shooters so we use "best" judgement regarding this. If someone says "I call and raise" we let him raise despite the fact that in most poker rooms this is a no-no. IMO, a string bet is much worse than a check raise.
 

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Super System

Since super system became so popular it is the only way to slow down aggressive players is the check and raise.
 

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Since super system became so popular it is the only way to slow down aggressive players is the check and raise.
excellent point........

one of my favorite things to do in poker...........

especially when you know some one in real aggressive
 

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I"d check raise my mom.... but the she's the one who taught me to check raise in the first place. If you're playing for money it ain't friendly.
 

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"Let me ask you all a question. If your friend is getting killed playing, and he's down to his last $20, would you do it to him? And if you say yes, tell me that friend wouldn't have a problem with it. "

Fat Tony - we are not mean heartless people like you think but if he was down to his last $20 for the night yes I'd give to him but I'd give him $20 back when the game was done for the night - remember in poker you play by the rules and as long as you ain't cheating all tactics go.

After the game what you do with the winnings is up to you - I never like to see afriend go home flat broke and that is the norm in return however in the game anything goes.

It takes it away from the game if everyone has a friendly approach - you might as well them them all what you've got and hence my recommendation for a game like "Snap" to you.
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In a "FREINDLY" game if I check and there are4 other guys betting then I'll raise, but if I check and there are only the better and myself as the raiser in, I'll give the chips back to the player who I checked and raised. Don't see any problem checking and having the next guy bet and 3 or 4 more come in then raise them. Hell its Poker!!
 

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It takes it away from the game if everyone has a friendly approach - you might as well them them all what you've got and hence my recommendation for a game like "Snap" to you.
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How many more times are you going to bring up "Snap" in this thread? It was funny the first 30 times.
 

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a game of speed, challenge, and intellect? (or was that Thumper?) Anyways, agood game with a Very High buzz factor. Supplies: people, beer, and cards.Best played with a large number of people (for obvious reasons). One person isdesignated as the dealer. (This person should be changed every round becausethe dealer is at a distinct disadvantage. Some people play that the dealer doesnot play on his/her turn.) The dealer begins by placing cards, face up, in astack, and calls out the number on each turn. When two cards of the same numbercome up in a row, the first person to bring his/her hand down onto the top ofthe pile gets the top card, and is then allowed to "give out" the number of thecard in drinks to whomever he/she wishes. Rounds end when the dealer runs outof cards.Some people try to add some more fun to the game by requiring that all playershave the 'snap hand' behind their backs. Others call snap on two face cards ofsame suit in a row, or cards in either ascending or descending order.

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a game of speed, challenge, and intellect? (or was that Thumper?) Anyways, agood game with a Very High buzz factor. Supplies: people, beer, and cards.Best played with a large number of people (for obvious reasons). One person isdesignated as the dealer. (This person should be changed every round becausethe dealer is at a distinct disadvantage. Some people play that the dealer doesnot play on his/her turn.) The dealer begins by placing cards, face up, in astack, and calls out the number on each turn. When two cards of the same numbercome up in a row, the first person to bring his/her hand down onto the top ofthe pile gets the top card, and is then allowed to "give out" the number of thecard in drinks to whomever he/she wishes. Rounds end when the dealer runs outof cards.Some people try to add some more fun to the game by requiring that all playershave the 'snap hand' behind their backs. Others call snap on two face cards ofsame suit in a row, or cards in either ascending or descending order.

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Sorry............31 times. :)
 

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Fat Tony: I think your an old-school over 40 type of guy. Nothing wrong with that...so am I. Am I far off? Anyway, I was once invited to play a "freindly" game with a bunch of older Italian wise guys in the back of someones cappuccino shop. I did the same "check-raise" to one of them and the looks on their faces was like I ripped off their moustaches from their skin. One of them says to my freind who invited me:

"Tony, where did you get this kid from"

Now, Tony is not too impressed with me and gives me the glare so I immediately took notice of my sin and tried to take the bet back.

"No, No...forget it kid. You gotta walk before you run...capiche" says the one I offended while holding his forefinger and thumb together. I nodded nervously and tell him an excuse:

"Ummm....sorry Frank. I didnt know how you guys play".
He says "Its allright kid, we're playing your way now".

As the night wore on the game was getting rougher and I felt they were all trying to bust me but I was on this amazing run and these guys were chasing so before I knew it I was up $4k. It was about 2AM and im happy with the money I've won so I decide to leave.

"Where da ya you think you goin?" says Frank in his heavy accent.
"Well, its 2 in the morning and I got to work in the morning. Sorry, I got to go" I said. I said good night to everyone and headed to the parking lot where I was confronted by Frank's son and 3 of his Gino buddies.

"Where do you think your going munga cake?. Your a f*cking cheat and stole my fathers money"

They swarmed on me and I fell to the ground. I wore glasses at the time so I lost those and couldnt see. I was like a frightend turtle...all rolled up. Thankfully, Tony (the guy who invited me) came running out and stopped the insanity. I went home with $4k of their money, bruises all over my body and squinted all the way while driving because I lost my glasses.

So, my opinion on this issue is dont play any "freindly" games....especially if their name is Tony or Frank. :nono5:
 

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bookie said:
So, my opinion on this issue is dont play any "freindly" games....especially if their name is Tony or Frank. :nono5:

:toothless :toothless :toothless :toothless

I can't stop laughing.
 

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