Tin - I find you pretty logical most the time but I am having trouble here myself. You mention extortion, where do you get that? You allege Marty is a close friend of Ken's and somehow that is why they are being pulled down? What and who is he trying to extort? Royal already pays money to be on the site, he is cutting his nose off by taking them down. I can't verify all I hear but there is some trouble at Royal, just about every insider knows it. The only debate is just how much of a hole they have got themselves in. I don't even think (could be wrong) they have paid Spiro back the money they owe him. Besides this going on they have lost key people at critical spots in the organization. Can it be saved? Yes it can but it can be lost as well. That is why since Ken and I both gamble we know we wouldn't send our money there right now nor could we advise anyone else to. Especially at the start of football season. I know Russ and Fred don't gamble so maybe it's easier for them to sit back and hope for the best.
The real reason IMO Major is not going to take them down is because Ken did it first. LOL. He wouldn't take them down now if his mother was getting stiffed there. That's what is behind this. We can debate this all we want but MW will have them to the dying end now no matter what. This is down to ego now, everyone in the world knows it is a precarious sitation so I hope the newbies look over here first before they send their money. I hope like hell the RX is being overly cautious here but with everything going on we thought it proper to take this action.
The real reason IMO Major is not going to take them down is because Ken did it first. LOL. He wouldn't take them down now if his mother was getting stiffed there. That's what is behind this. We can debate this all we want but MW will have them to the dying end now no matter what. This is down to ego now, everyone in the world knows it is a precarious sitation so I hope the newbies look over here first before they send their money. I hope like hell the RX is being overly cautious here but with everything going on we thought it proper to take this action.
TTinCO,
You said:
"I still think that there is a buttload of $$$$ behind them-but certainly can't say for sure."
So you actually don't know anything about royal's financial situation, but you "THINK" that they have alot of $$$ behind them.
I agree with shrink and RPM about this one 100%. No we can't prove royal is going down, but that is not the point. You said yourself you wouldn't recommend sending people there, so why shoudl majorwager send all their posters there?
Until this is resolved MW or RX shouldnt be putting their posters in danger. I put alot of stock in therx recommended sites and im glad I will not be steered wrong.
You have said it is only your OPINION that they have alot of money behind them and that you wouldn't recommend them yourself, so what is your argument here? You dont have any facts saying royal is not in trouble. With reasonable doubt of their stability, how do you think majorwager should continue to send their posters there when you wouldn't recommend them yourself?
You said:
"I still think that there is a buttload of $$$$ behind them-but certainly can't say for sure."
So you actually don't know anything about royal's financial situation, but you "THINK" that they have alot of $$$ behind them.
I agree with shrink and RPM about this one 100%. No we can't prove royal is going down, but that is not the point. You said yourself you wouldn't recommend sending people there, so why shoudl majorwager send all their posters there?
Until this is resolved MW or RX shouldnt be putting their posters in danger. I put alot of stock in therx recommended sites and im glad I will not be steered wrong.
You have said it is only your OPINION that they have alot of money behind them and that you wouldn't recommend them yourself, so what is your argument here? You dont have any facts saying royal is not in trouble. With reasonable doubt of their stability, how do you think majorwager should continue to send their posters there when you wouldn't recommend them yourself?
ttin,
i just read what you posted at another site. and i must say, what you are saying is that shrink took royal down to help someone ELSE get paid???
ok, so ken threw away an advertising contract, and GARUNTEED MONEY IN HIS POCKET, to help someone else get paid????
bababawwwwaaaaaaaaaaa lololololooollolololl
omg i cant fuking breath im laughing so hard.
you cant POSSIBLY EXPECT ANYONE IN THE WORLD TO BELIEVE THAT!!!
i just read what you posted at another site. and i must say, what you are saying is that shrink took royal down to help someone ELSE get paid???
ok, so ken threw away an advertising contract, and GARUNTEED MONEY IN HIS POCKET, to help someone else get paid????
bababawwwwaaaaaaaaaaa lololololooollolololl
omg i cant fuking breath im laughing so hard.
you cant POSSIBLY EXPECT ANYONE IN THE WORLD TO BELIEVE THAT!!!
Tin - I don't know that you are wrong, no one does. Maybe Royal one day can solve all these problems. But I do have the opinion there is plenty to be concerned about. Just about everyone agrees with this besides those who are getting paid. And even those people know in their heart they wouldn't send their money to this place if they did gamble. I hope like heck we are being overly conservative but I feel right now with so many bad things happening it is only fair we take them down. Any site even pretending to be a watchdog site shouldn't be steering newbies to post up here in my honest opinion. They won't know anything about all this, they will see them up there next to Olympic and Pinnacle and think they are just as strong. Yes it cost us some cash but it is a good feeling to do what is best for the players. Plus I think it is fair for our other advertisers, the one's we have will look stronger if we take measures to look out for the players.
The upside of all this for the RX or MW in leaving them up is a few months of advertising $$$ versus the possibility of us sending loads of people there to post up and get stiffed!? As I said we would rather be safe than sorry with other people's money.
The upside of all this for the RX or MW in leaving them up is a few months of advertising $$$ versus the possibility of us sending loads of people there to post up and get stiffed!? As I said we would rather be safe than sorry with other people's money.
Good points Patrick...
Let's refuse some facts while we are on the topic of ROYAL...
TTinco,
We get attacked for several weeks for keeping ROYAL up when there have been gamblers and employees posting and emailing me to take them down...
So, after realizing that there is no way in hell I could send them money at this time, and I take Royal down, we get criticized even more?
The posters reading this thread can make their own informed opinion on who is right here and who is eating poppyseed...
I know that I did the RIGHT thing regardless of what happens, and I have first hand knowledge of 3 slow pays since I took them down to make me feel even better about my decision...
I find it more than coincidental that TTinco is over here asking me why ROYAL has been taken down rather than asking across the street what objective reasoning other than $$$$ is behind keeping ROYAL up next to Pinnacle, Olympic, et al?
THE SHRINK
Let's refuse some facts while we are on the topic of ROYAL...
TTinco,
We get attacked for several weeks for keeping ROYAL up when there have been gamblers and employees posting and emailing me to take them down...
So, after realizing that there is no way in hell I could send them money at this time, and I take Royal down, we get criticized even more?
The posters reading this thread can make their own informed opinion on who is right here and who is eating poppyseed...
I know that I did the RIGHT thing regardless of what happens, and I have first hand knowledge of 3 slow pays since I took them down to make me feel even better about my decision...
I find it more than coincidental that TTinco is over here asking me why ROYAL has been taken down rather than asking across the street what objective reasoning other than $$$$ is behind keeping ROYAL up next to Pinnacle, Olympic, et al?
THE SHRINK
TTinco,
Why not ask that question I posed across the street...
I find it more than coincidental that TTinco is over here asking me why ROYAL has been taken down rather than asking across the street what objective reasoning other than $$$$ is behind keeping ROYAL up next to Pinnacle, Olympic, et al?
I would LOVE to hear their objective ($$$$$) reasoning, LMAO!!!
Too chicken to upset your shilling father?
If you are going to be a credible poster at both sites, you need to do the right thing at both places...
Why not ask that question I posed across the street...
I find it more than coincidental that TTinco is over here asking me why ROYAL has been taken down rather than asking across the street what objective reasoning other than $$$$ is behind keeping ROYAL up next to Pinnacle, Olympic, et al?
I would LOVE to hear their objective ($$$$$) reasoning, LMAO!!!
Too chicken to upset your shilling father?
If you are going to be a credible poster at both sites, you need to do the right thing at both places...
