I am sure you were there. We played football together at Georgia Southern. If you had issues or aggression for being cut from a fraternity no need to hate on them. Over the years we haven't spoke much since 2005 since he lives across the country. If you get your jollies off for being a grammatical police on here, that's fine. You obviously didn't read the point of my previous post. Racist people are around in every race. The issue I have is when someone from another race is discriminated for hanging out with another race......and I'm not talking about the thuggy blacks or whites. Back to the OK student....he should be punished and I have no problem with him getting the boot.
I am sure you were there. We played football together at Georgia Southern. If you had issues or aggression for being cut from a fraternity no need to hate on them. Over the years we haven't spoke much since 2005 since he lives across the country. If you get your jollies off for being a grammatical police on here, that's fine. You obviously didn't read the point of my previous post. Racist people are around in every race. The issue I have is when someone from another race is discriminated for hanging out with another race......and I'm not talking about the thuggy blacks or whites. Back to the OK student....he should be punished and I have no problem with him getting the boot.
Bottom line. The Ou players totally over reacted. They are not a real good team. They are not picked to finish 1st or 2nd in their conference. They should have their worthless tails out on that field as much as possible. I do not want to hear that a racial remark is more important than football, beause that is nothing but a cop out. They can all hold hands and be unified after Baylor once again pummels them into the ground. Maybe that will ease the pain, but it will not ease the embarrasement that OU fans must be feeling now because this edition of the OU football team too the chochen's way out of the 2015 season. OU finishes the season at Baylor, vs TCU, and at Okie State. They have a built in excuse now for those three losses. Too bad they chose this season to pull this stunt, because starting next season, they have to play some legitimate non-con teams like Ohio State, UCLA, and their old friends Nebraska. This season they go to Tennessee, a good young SEC East team, but still not the caliber of an Ohio State.
Mr Junk 47, as usual your post is worthless and sophomoric. "The huge racial rift"...........what fucking planet have you been living on. Are you implying that there wasn't a racial rift when Bush/Clinton/Bush etc were in office? Like during the LA riots in early 90s? I suppose that was Obama's fault? Carry on with your ignorance.
It amazes me that everything negative has to be laid at the feet of Pres. Obama. This country was racist from it's foundings. The fact that it's amplified since the president has taken office is obvious by the number of threats against the Office of the President that the Secret Service has had to deal with. I'm a security professional, i know from talking with them. When was the last time a Senator before the guy evens steps foot in the white house says "I'm gonna make sure he's not successful". That in itself is treason in my book as an American first. As the President goes, so goes the Country.
It sucks for OU but you are in a Red State, in a state that has gotten more and more conservative. It's unfortunate because OU was one of the southwestern schools that did recruit Black athletes when the south, and my home state of Texas would not. The North, Midwest and West cleaned up from the "racial stupidity" of the South and it's segratation principles. But hey, a guy like Adolf Rupp is idolized, but in my opinion he was a coward because as powerful as he was, he wouldn't help change things. Why did it take a guy like Bear Bryant so long? I'd applaud a guy like Bud Wilkinson for looking at the character of a kid instead of the color of his skin. They could have learned a thing or two from Lyndon Johnson or Bush 41 (go read his biography and his stance on race, what a great American). Not 43.
But getting back to the SAE or any other fraternity or sorority. It's probably why I never chose to join one. I preferred my brothers in the football and baseball locker rooms at ASU. Whether Black, White, Hispanic, etc, there was no outward prejudice towards one another. We all came from different backgrounds but came together for the team. Whether we were getting called the N-word or N-lover when we played a non conference baseball game against Miss St (Palmeiro, Thigpen, Will Clark and the boys) from the fans in the outfield we all walked on the field and off the field together because we knew those fans were cowards. One on one, none of them would ever come up to us individually and say that by themselves. It's just a pack mentality thing. Kind of like Fox news, it's just there to thrive off your worse hatreds and fears.
It sucks for OU but you are in a Red State, in a state that has gotten more and more conservative. It's unfortunate because OU was one of the southwestern schools that did recruit Black athletes when the south, and my home state of Texas would not. The North, Midwest and West cleaned up from the "racial stupidity" of the South and it's segratation principles. But hey, a guy like Adolf Rupp is idolized, but in my opinion he was a coward because as powerful as he was, he wouldn't help change things. Why did it take a guy like Bear Bryant so long? I'd applaud a guy like Bud Wilkinson for looking at the character of a kid instead of the color of his skin. They could have learned a thing or two from Lyndon Johnson or Bush 41 (go read his biography and his stance on race, what a great American). Not 43.
But getting back to the SAE or any other fraternity or sorority. It's probably why I never chose to join one. I preferred my brothers in the football and baseball locker rooms at ASU. Whether Black, White, Hispanic, etc, there was no outward prejudice towards one another. We all came from different backgrounds but came together for the team. Whether we were getting called the N-word or N-lover when we played a non conference baseball game against Miss St (Palmeiro, Thigpen, Will Clark and the boys) from the fans in the outfield we all walked on the field and off the field together because we knew those fans were cowards. One on one, none of them would ever come up to us individually and say that by themselves. It's just a pack mentality thing. Kind of like Fox news, it's just there to thrive off your worse hatreds and fears.
Good stuff WinOne. I agree with everything you said. Especially about all of the Obama blame, which is just laughable. As if this stuff wouldn't still be happening if we had Romney in office. The only thing I hate to see is all of this team practice time being missed because of the national attention it got. But if you don't get why Stoops and his players linked arms and sang kumbiya while missing valuable practice time, you don't get the big picture. Universities and football are all about the money. Losing future students and athletes because of this incident would be a big blow finacially to the university. So I'm betting that the missed practice time and team unity didn't come from Bob Stoops. That idea probably came from further up the food chain. But I believe it would have been handled the same way at just about any major university that has a lot to lose by doing nothing..
any major university with a conscious. I am sure they can get the practice time back and will have no issues with the NCAA. I would consider this to be "bigger" than just sports. While Bush (43) was in office, the whole Vidor, Tx thing was going on. If you think I am making it up, please read...http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/08/oppenheim.sundown.town/
This is really not the place for politics, but I do get a kick out of you Liberals trying to make excuses for Obama and his motley crew of liars, cheaters, and, murderers. Enough of that. Obviously you clowns do not realiaze what a tail kicking Democrats and Obama have taken in the past 2+ years on election day, but then again you are the same clowns who think your football programs are great.
Dr. Jimmy, you are a piece of trash. Were you in L.A. during the riots? Do you know the real reason why they turned out to be as bad as they did? The truth is that you know absolutely nothing about the politics that led up to the riot, and how stupidly the City Attorney and Mayor of Los Angeles acted to feed the fire that led to them. Stick to what you know boy. Don 't be a big, mouthed idiot like so many more on the internet.
GOSooner. I know that you can't stand the fact that I was spot on about the Big 12 and why they would NOT have a team in last year's playoffs, but that was last year. You really have to chill when you are proven wrong, as you were last season. It is over. I was right. You were wrong. Maybe this year things will be reversed. It is no big deal, so stop pouting and acting like you know everything there is to know about College Football because you are far from that. If I were you, I would be concerned about the obvious major slide that OU took in football last season. It is pretty sad when your team scores over 30 points in three games and loses them all. Stoops is losing it. The correct way to handle the situation that came up at OU was to tell his players that they could protest as much as they wanted to, as long as it did not break any laws, but boycotting practice would not be tolerated. If these players will walk off because of some stupid statement that a half-wit made, why should anyone believe that they would not quit on the field if things are not going their way. They obviously quit last season against Baylor and Clemson. Remember, all of us know that many, if not most of these players would not be in college if not for football. Why give these people the opportunity to run the team? Stoops is responsible for the team, not a bunch of players looking for an excuse for what may be another poor season. If I were an OU fan, I would be embarrassed to have my team thought of as a "maybe" after Baylor and TCU. If you want to feel embarrassed, at least feel that way for the right reasons.
Dr. Jimmy, you are a piece of trash. Were you in L.A. during the riots? Do you know the real reason why they turned out to be as bad as they did? The truth is that you know absolutely nothing about the politics that led up to the riot, and how stupidly the City Attorney and Mayor of Los Angeles acted to feed the fire that led to them. Stick to what you know boy. Don 't be a big, mouthed idiot like so many more on the internet.
GOSooner. I know that you can't stand the fact that I was spot on about the Big 12 and why they would NOT have a team in last year's playoffs, but that was last year. You really have to chill when you are proven wrong, as you were last season. It is over. I was right. You were wrong. Maybe this year things will be reversed. It is no big deal, so stop pouting and acting like you know everything there is to know about College Football because you are far from that. If I were you, I would be concerned about the obvious major slide that OU took in football last season. It is pretty sad when your team scores over 30 points in three games and loses them all. Stoops is losing it. The correct way to handle the situation that came up at OU was to tell his players that they could protest as much as they wanted to, as long as it did not break any laws, but boycotting practice would not be tolerated. If these players will walk off because of some stupid statement that a half-wit made, why should anyone believe that they would not quit on the field if things are not going their way. They obviously quit last season against Baylor and Clemson. Remember, all of us know that many, if not most of these players would not be in college if not for football. Why give these people the opportunity to run the team? Stoops is responsible for the team, not a bunch of players looking for an excuse for what may be another poor season. If I were an OU fan, I would be embarrassed to have my team thought of as a "maybe" after Baylor and TCU. If you want to feel embarrassed, at least feel that way for the right reasons.
BigdaddyQH - what you don't get is that a fan is a fan through thick or thin. Winning is great but you can't win them all. Politics and sports do not mix much less at the college level. Anyone who lives in Oklahoma knows that racism is minimal to say the least. What happened was very isolated and the football players at OU know that as do all the supporters and fans. To turn it into a Ferguson like event is a little bit of an overkill. To use this very isolated incident as a political football is a stretch and a half. But those who do not like Oklahoma and can expand it to include the Big 12 etc and use that as a put down are obviously already biased. Are you using that incident which did not involve the football team and stretch and relate it to you thinking that OU will be a maybe next year . We shall see. What you are failing to see is that things like this can make a team grow closer and elevate their level of play much less expectations. Using that incident to run down OU's football program. Anyone who throws around an all inclusive term like clowns and himself throws politics into the college forum after running down others for doing the same needs to take a step back.
I don't think this question is racist in any way. I certainly don't mean for it to be. Just a REAL and HONEST question.
Here is the question...... Based on the above quote "Obama is half white/half black"........ how big will the next celebration or uproar be...... when there is a REAL or ABSOLUTELY FULLY black president?
Obama has fanned the racial and anti police since early in his term. ( Cambridge, Trayvon, Ferguson, "get in their face" bring a knife to a gun fight) In every single instance, he and holder have sided with the black side even when it was so apparently wrong. I mean, when u elect a community organizer, what the fuck did u expect? lol
Only natural he s held accountable for the damage some think hes responsible for.
But to be honest, this is all a gd smoke screen for his terrible performance. If we keep talking about this racial shit ( whom a majority of Americans really don t give a shit about, we all have friends outside our race, and for the most part, we get along regardless of what the msm says) that deflects away from all the corruption in our government, a poor economy, the threat of radical islam, and the many other problems facing our country.
Its all a hustle, sold by a press worshiping the potus, and sadly eaten up with a spoon by Americans who cannot focus on the prize.
Only natural he s held accountable for the damage some think hes responsible for.
But to be honest, this is all a gd smoke screen for his terrible performance. If we keep talking about this racial shit ( whom a majority of Americans really don t give a shit about, we all have friends outside our race, and for the most part, we get along regardless of what the msm says) that deflects away from all the corruption in our government, a poor economy, the threat of radical islam, and the many other problems facing our country.
Its all a hustle, sold by a press worshiping the potus, and sadly eaten up with a spoon by Americans who cannot focus on the prize.
| Apr 6, 12:39 PM EDT FRAT SUSPENDS CLEMSON STUDENTS OVER RACIALLY CHARGED PARTY BY JEFFREY COLLINS ASSOCIATED PRESS | ||||||
The fraternity's national organization was outraged by the Christmas-themed party that had members wearing blue and red bandanas, colors of the street gangs the Crips and Bloods, throwing up gang hand symbols and wearing T-shirts with images of the late rapper Tupac Shakur. About two dozen students were suspended and the leaders of the local chapter, whose operations are controlled by alumni advisers, were removed. "The decision of a few brothers to hold the type of social event they organized is inexcusable and completely inappropriate, and the entire group was sanctioned. Furthermore, their behavior in no way reflects the values and creed of the fraternity, and we apologize to campus and local community for their actions because we teach our brothers to be leaders, scholars and, most importantly, gentlemen," the national Sigma Alpha Epsilon Organization said in its statement. Pictures of the party were posted on social media, causing backlash as black students said Clemson didn't do enough to promote racial tolerance. About 6 percent of Clemson's students are black. The fraternity violated alcohol rules and student conduct codes, according to a brief statement by the university. The probation runs until February 2017. Clemson announced the sanctions about two months after the fraternity met with Clemson's Office of Community and Ethical Standards. The fraternity also must complete an education program about alcohol, social justice and gangs. A Sigma Alpha Epsilon chapter at the University of Oklahoma was disbanded earlier this year after members were taped singing a racist song. The Clemson chapter of the fraternity was suspended almost immediately after the party photos reached the Internet. The gathering came shortly after protests at the university over a grand jury's decision not to indict a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, in the shooting of a black teen caused a number of anonymous racist postings on the social media app Yik Yak. "Clemson is better than this," university president Jim Clements wrote in an email shortly after the party, adding that free expression of opinion cannot cross the line to harassment and intimidation just like protest marches can't turn into lawless riots. Clemson has added a lecture series and a monthly luncheon to promote diversity, and Clements has vowed to spend this year reviewing how the university treats minorities and can attract a more inclusive class of students. |
