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[h=2]Disproving Liberal Economic Theory in One Chart[/h]by Katie Nielsen 5 comments



January 3, 2014
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In early December, President Obama gave a speech on the economy. He blamed “the rich” for slowing economic growth by concentrating their wealth in savings and investment rather than spending it on consumption.
Heritage Foundation economist Salim Furth explains why the President’s claim is misguided:
The President apparently believes that consumer spending, rather than savings and investment, drives economic growth. But, as this chart shows, personal consumption is at a post-war high as a share of national expenditure. If consumer spending really did drive the economy, it would be booming.
All that consumption comes at the expense of net investment, which shows a clear downward trend since the 1950s. Net savings tracks investment closely.
The President also blames income inequality for the decline in growth, but Furth concludes based on the literature that “there are much stronger forces in the economy. The President’s theory does not account for the basic macroeconomic facts.”
What is proven to contribute to a healthy economy is fairer, more open, and more dynamic competition in the American economy. The new edition of Heritage’s new Index of Economic Freedom, to be released later this month, will show how America stacks up against the rest of the world on this front.
Do you think it’s important to encourage economic freedom about consumerism?
 

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All that consumption comes at the expense of net investment, which shows a clear downward trend since the 1950s. Net savings tracks investment closely.
The President also blames income inequality for the decline in growth, but Furth concludes based on the literature that “there are much stronger forces in the economy. The President’s theory does not account for the basic macroeconomic facts.”
What is proven to contribute to a healthy economy is fairer, more open, and more dynamic competition in the American economy. The new edition of Heritage’s new Index of Economic Freedom, to be released later this month, will show how America stacks up against the rest of the world on this front.
Do you think it’s important to encourage economic freedom about consumerism?

People aren't frugal anymore because the government punishes investors and savers.

Contrary to Keynesian fallacy 1,364, 'consumption' isn't wealth creation.
 

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You believe in ideas that have never worked in practice.

Not once.

They've worked for the past 75+ years. The entire developed world is adopting these practices. You are out of touch with the educated world. That's why you have the same thought process as Sheriff Joe.
 

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No there aren't.

And note yet again, you've posted a chart you can not contextualize or explain.

Your chart does not show, or provide, any evidence that what you believe is true.

Idiot.

Sure it does. It shows that government spending has increased far greater than it is now and that growth has been far greater with the higher spending. Which completely invalidates your claim and makes you look silly yet again.
 

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Sure it does. It shows that government spending has increased far greater than it is now and that growth has been far greater with the higher spending. Which completely invalidates your claim and makes you look silly yet again.

Um, no it doesn't.

You can't even explain what the lines on the chart mean.
 

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They've worked for the past 75+ years. The entire developed world is adopting these practices. You are out of touch with the educated world. That's why you have the same thought process as Sheriff Joe.

No they haven't.

And the Obama "stimulus" is just one example in a long list of failures.
 

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Sure it does. It shows that government spending has increased far greater than it is now and that growth has been far greater with the higher spending. Which completely invalidates your claim and makes you look silly yet again.

It is even funnier that you're posting a chart that clearly shows Real GDP ramping up as Federal expenditures decline in the early 1970's and 1980's
 

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Um, no it doesn't.

You can't even explain what the lines on the chart mean.

Sure I can. The blue line is the year to year percent change of government spending and the red line is the year to year percent change in Real GDP. The chart clearly shows that we have increased spending every year for the last 40 years and GDP has increased at high levels even during times of large increases in spending. Completely invalidating your claim that increasing spending has never worked.
 

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No they haven't.

And the Obama "stimulus" is just one example in a long list of failures.

It didn't fail at all. Well according to real economists it didn't fail. And I'll listen to them instead of you, because quite frankly... you are pretty dumb.
 

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It is even funnier that you're posting a chart that clearly shows Real GDP ramping up as Federal expenditures decline in the early 1970's and 1980's

You don't even know how to read basic charts, you are that dumb. Lol. At no point did federal expenditures decline in the 70s or 80s.
 

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In his eight years as President, Clinton reduced federal spending to 18.2 percent of GDP from 22.1 percent [the largest reduction in federal spending in the past 60 years as measured in percentage of GDP] . Clinton and the Republicans in Congress cut spending on domestic discretionary programs as well as entitlement spending through welfare reform. Clinton also
  • “cut” (reduced the growth rate of) Medicare spending by $115 billion;
  • “cut” Medicaid spending by $14 billion;
  • cut other mandatory spending by $40 billion;

Clinton also cut capital gains taxes and of course saw job gains and steady GDP growth.

The idea that you need to spend a lot of money for economic growth is laughable and preposterous.

Of course when you're a 23 year old kid who, well, wasn't really there for the Clinton Presidency, you type stupid shit on the Internet.
 

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It didn't fail at all. Well according to real economists it didn't fail. And I'll listen to them instead of you, because quite frankly... you are pretty dumb.

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It failed. If you laughably believe it did not fail, words have no meaning.

Of course when you're a stupid little kid typing stupid shit on the Internet, words have no meaning.
 

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In his eight years as President, Clinton reduced federal spending to 18.2 percent of GDP from 22.1 percent [the largest reduction in federal spending in the past 60 years as measured in percentage of GDP] . Clinton and the Republicans in Congress cut spending on domestic discretionary programs as well as entitlement spending through welfare reform. Clinton also
  • “cut” (reduced the growth rate of) Medicare spending by $115 billion;
  • “cut” Medicaid spending by $14 billion;
  • cut other mandatory spending by $40 billion;

Clinton also cut capital gains taxes and of course saw job gains and steady GDP growth.

The idea that you need to spend a lot of money for economic growth is laughable and preposterous.

Of course when you're a 23 year old kid who, well, wasn't really there for the Clinton Presidency, you type stupid shit on the Internet.

At no point did Clinton cut spending. There was large increase in the velocity of money because of the tech boom which created large increases in GDP which reduced spending to GDP. But he did not cut any spending. You are just too dumb for words, lol.
 

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At no point did Clinton cut spending. There was large increase in the velocity of money because of the tech boom which created large increases in GDP which reduced spending to GDP. But he did not cut any spending. You are just too dumb for words, lol.

You quite literally can not read.

Again, you're just a dumb kid saying dumb kid things.
 

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It failed. If you laughably believe it did not fail, words have no meaning.

Of course when you're a stupid little kid typing stupid shit on the Internet, words have no meaning.

It did not fail at all... Remember these are real economists... not retards like you.

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It did not fail at all... Remember these are real economists... not retards like you.

Uh, responding to a hypothetical in a survey does not demonstrate something did not fail.

Again, you are just a dumb kid saying stupid kiddie things.
 

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Hey stupid shit:

At no point did anyone say "Clinton Cut Spending"

LOL

Then what point are you trying to make, lol.

You said... "The idea that you need to spend a lot of money for economic growth is laughable and preposterous."

Clinton increased spending at a rate greater than Obama, lol. You are pretty dumb.
 

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Uh, responding to a hypothetical in a survey does not demonstrate something did not fail.

Again, you are just a dumb kid saying stupid kiddie things.

When they say the unemployment rate would have been higher without the stimulus they are saying the stimulus did not fail, lol. You are incredibly retarded.
 

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