LMFAO. If most sports teams didn't have a TV deal, they wouldn't even break even. High ticket prices make up for the incompetence in the front office.hno:
Average ticket cost of ~$50 x 81 home games x 40000 seats. It might not be the biggest source of revenue, but it certainly is needed for both teams with competent and incompetent managment. The $6 bottles of water help, too
And it still doesn't change the fact that you don't have to pay the TV advertisers to benefit
Yeah, Miller Park has usually been a good 70 % Cubs fans for those games. Probably still will be, even though the Brewers are winning now.
Cubs fans will pay a premium for good seats on the road, and I'm sure many of those "die hard Brewer fans' won't think twice about selling to them.
Game 5 of 1956 World Series at Yankee Stadium.
Ticket stub from game 5 of the 1956 World Series.
Notice the price - $7.35 to see what turned ou to be Don Larsen's perfect game against the Brooklyn Dodgers. The only no hitter in post season history Mickey Mantle's fourth-inning home run broke the scoreless tie. The Yankees added an insurance run in the sixth.
Brooklyn's Sal "The Barber" Maglie also pitched an outstanding game, giving up only two runs on five hits.
With two outs in the ninth inning, Larsen faced pinch hitter Dale Mitchell, a .311 career hitter. Throwing fastballs, Larsen got ahead in the count at 1-2. On his 97th pitch, a called strike, Larsen caught Mitchell looking for the 27th and last out. Mitchell complained that the pitch was high and outside to home plate umpire Babe Pinelli (who was working his final game behind the plate, retiring after the season) to no avail..
As Don Larsen walked off the mound, Yankee catcher Yogi Berra leaped into Larsen's arms, creating an indelible, iconic image in American sports. After it was over, Berra reportedly quipped to Larsen that he had performed the baseball equivalent of walking on water. Years later, Larsen said, "He jumped on me, my mind went blank. Probably still is."
After the game, a reporter asked Yankee skipper Casey Stengel perhaps one of the most obvious questions a sports reporter has ever posed: Was this the best game Larsen had ever pitched? Stengel diplomatically answered, "So far!"
Don Larsen was named MVP of the series won by the Yankees in seven games despite just the single start.
Incredibly, Stengel is reported to have stated after the Series that Larsen's historic gem was not the best pitched game of the '56 classic, in his opinion, Bob Turley's losing effort (a 1-0 heartbreaker) in Game 6, in which he struck out eleven batters and lost a shutout in the tenth inning on a fielding mistake, was actually a better pitched game.
The Yankees romped to a 9-0 win in game 7 behind a 3 hit shutout by Johnny Kucks at Ebbets Field aidded by two homers by Yogi Berra and one each by Elston Howard and Moose Skowron.
The great Don Newcombe who was the first pitcher to win the National League MVP and the Cy Young Award in the same season in 1956 took the shelling for Brooklyn that day.
wil..
Ticket stub from game 5 of the 1956 World Series.
Notice the price - $7.35 to see what turned ou to be Don Larsen's perfect game against the Brooklyn Dodgers. The only no hitter in post season history Mickey Mantle's fourth-inning home run broke the scoreless tie. The Yankees added an insurance run in the sixth.
Brooklyn's Sal "The Barber" Maglie also pitched an outstanding game, giving up only two runs on five hits.
With two outs in the ninth inning, Larsen faced pinch hitter Dale Mitchell, a .311 career hitter. Throwing fastballs, Larsen got ahead in the count at 1-2. On his 97th pitch, a called strike, Larsen caught Mitchell looking for the 27th and last out. Mitchell complained that the pitch was high and outside to home plate umpire Babe Pinelli (who was working his final game behind the plate, retiring after the season) to no avail..
As Don Larsen walked off the mound, Yankee catcher Yogi Berra leaped into Larsen's arms, creating an indelible, iconic image in American sports. After it was over, Berra reportedly quipped to Larsen that he had performed the baseball equivalent of walking on water. Years later, Larsen said, "He jumped on me, my mind went blank. Probably still is."
After the game, a reporter asked Yankee skipper Casey Stengel perhaps one of the most obvious questions a sports reporter has ever posed: Was this the best game Larsen had ever pitched? Stengel diplomatically answered, "So far!"
Don Larsen was named MVP of the series won by the Yankees in seven games despite just the single start.
Incredibly, Stengel is reported to have stated after the Series that Larsen's historic gem was not the best pitched game of the '56 classic, in his opinion, Bob Turley's losing effort (a 1-0 heartbreaker) in Game 6, in which he struck out eleven batters and lost a shutout in the tenth inning on a fielding mistake, was actually a better pitched game.
The Yankees romped to a 9-0 win in game 7 behind a 3 hit shutout by Johnny Kucks at Ebbets Field aidded by two homers by Yogi Berra and one each by Elston Howard and Moose Skowron.
The great Don Newcombe who was the first pitcher to win the National League MVP and the Cy Young Award in the same season in 1956 took the shelling for Brooklyn that day.
wil..
FairWarning
Unfortunately no but I wish I owned it, no telling what it is worth today. I found it in the Baseball Almanac and pasted it to the post.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=195610080NYA
wil.
Unfortunately no but I wish I owned it, no telling what it is worth today. I found it in the Baseball Almanac and pasted it to the post.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=195610080NYA
wil.
Baseball is not the only costly event to attend.
Stanley Cup Hockey not a bargain for me at least and in Montreal anyway.
Section: 119 Row: J (3 rows behind goaltender) for tomorrow night's game 3 vs the Boston Bruins cost $713 per ducat. Naturally worse seats if available can be had for less.
Section: 326 (nosebleed area) Row: B $113 per ticket.
http://toponlinetickets.com/ResultsGeneralAtVenue.aspx?kwds=Montreal+Canadiens&venid=329
To complete the sports in season. If you want to sit not to far from Jack Nicholson for today's Lakers/Jazz game:
Section: 110 Row: B
2nd ROW BEHIND COURTSIDE SEATS, SEATS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROW, INCLUDES VALET PARKING PASS...WILL CALL OK $535.00
http://toponlinetickets.com/Results...os+Angeles+Lakers+vs.+Utah+Jazz+-+Home+Game+1
wil..
Stanley Cup Hockey not a bargain for me at least and in Montreal anyway.
Section: 119 Row: J (3 rows behind goaltender) for tomorrow night's game 3 vs the Boston Bruins cost $713 per ducat. Naturally worse seats if available can be had for less.
Section: 326 (nosebleed area) Row: B $113 per ticket.
http://toponlinetickets.com/ResultsGeneralAtVenue.aspx?kwds=Montreal+Canadiens&venid=329
To complete the sports in season. If you want to sit not to far from Jack Nicholson for today's Lakers/Jazz game:
Section: 110 Row: B
2nd ROW BEHIND COURTSIDE SEATS, SEATS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROW, INCLUDES VALET PARKING PASS...WILL CALL OK $535.00
http://toponlinetickets.com/Results...os+Angeles+Lakers+vs.+Utah+Jazz+-+Home+Game+1
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This has been my arguement to many co-workers and friends. If they are selling them that is the price they can charge. As soon as the tickets stop selling then they will lower them. It is all supply and demand.
Another one I always bring up is the GB Packer season ticket list which has 50,000 people on it. They should charge more for the tickets to lower that list.
The problem with the supply & demand argument is that there are now two different markets buying the tickets. With the corporatization (for lack of a better word) of sports with business buying tickets to entertain clients and whatnot, ticket prices have skyrocketed since many will write the cost against their comapny. It not only blows prices through the roof, but also takes prime tickets out of the hands of fans and places them into the hands of people that don't watch the game, leave early, or never show at all. We all understand it's s&d, but it's the basis of the demand that makes it a market almost impossible for most regular guys to afford. I think that's what Wil and others are complaining about.
I saw it happen in my hometown of Philadelphia. The Spectrum was full of blue collar animals that made it a feared place for NHL teams to enter. Then comes the then First Union Center, full of seats and amenities perfect for the corporate buyer. In came the money, and out went the atmosphere. My family has had season tickets there for 25 years now and it's nowhere how it used to be from an excitement standpoint. Just another ugly side effect of companies scooping up tickets.
I saw it happen in my hometown of Philadelphia. The Spectrum was full of blue collar animals that made it a feared place for NHL teams to enter. Then comes the then First Union Center, full of seats and amenities perfect for the corporate buyer. In came the money, and out went the atmosphere. My family has had season tickets there for 25 years now and it's nowhere how it used to be from an excitement standpoint. Just another ugly side effect of companies scooping up tickets.
I sold my tickets for the Cub/Crew series. Try to avoid the drunk Cubs fans with my kids. Made almost 1/3 of my total seat package for the year.
Amazing what they have offered me the last few years. I can watch it at home then.
Last year 4 yups from Chi. were chanting 'F'n Brewers suck' in the front row. After 2 innings of this I approached and said keep the swearing down. They did not like me and continued. Next inning an usher came down to escort them out and one poured a beer on the ushers head. Disorderly conduct and $357 later fixed that problem.
Amazing what they have offered me the last few years. I can watch it at home then.
Last year 4 yups from Chi. were chanting 'F'n Brewers suck' in the front row. After 2 innings of this I approached and said keep the swearing down. They did not like me and continued. Next inning an usher came down to escort them out and one poured a beer on the ushers head. Disorderly conduct and $357 later fixed that problem.
Cubs fans are the rudest bastards out there. They get what they deserve. Here's a good column by Wallace Matthews on the Yankee/Met ticket prices. Apparently the Yanks will reduce the prices.
By Wallace Matthews
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Upon further review, maybe the Yankees and Mets should have built them smaller.
Their ballparks, I mean. One week into their new eras, and neither team seems able to fill the ones they’ve got, despite reams of priceless free publicity in our local newspapers and endless gratuitous hype on their own broadcasts.
Last year, when both teams finally owned up to the fact that there would be a total of 20,000 fewer seats available between the two ballparks, it appeared the New York metropolitan area would be grossly underserved for major-league baseball.
Now, it appears the opposite is true, and the teams have no one to blame but themselves.
Ninety miles down the turnpike, they are turning fans away at Citizens Bank Park, and here in New York, at least 10,000 seats go unoccupied every night.
There can be only one explanation for this. The tickets are too damned expensive. And something must be done about it soon.
Sunday, the Yankees hosted the Cleveland Indians and the Mets hosted the Milwaukee Brewers. Neither place came within 5,000 seats of being sold out.
Most teams, of course, would be overjoyed playing to 85 percent capacity in April, but of course, these are not most teams and this is not any other city.
Both of these ballparks were built on many of the same principles that are in the process of destroying our economy. Both teams grotesquely, and artificially, inflated the value of their product, and both did their best to create a false sense of demand by reducing capacity and trying to bully their longtime fans into paying their absurd new prices or risk being shut out.
Both suckered more than a few into forking over a lot of cash, including, no doubt, many who bought the tickets as a speculative investment, expecting to resell them at a profit later.
All of them are now getting a well-deserved jolt of reality.
For the past couple of years, the Yankees have sold out virtually every game, against any opponent, any time of year. And the Mets, who traditionally have lagged behind their Bronx counterparts in attendance, had in the last couple of seasons at Shea Stadium been playing to houses 90 percent full.
But when Opening Day at the new Yankee Stadium draws only 48,000 paid admissions, and the Mets, after nearly, but not quite, filling the 42,000 seats in their opener but then can’t draw much above 36,000, you know that whatever genius in each team’s business office decided it was time to Mel Brooks the baseball fans of this town made a serious error in judgment.
For the theatrically challenged among you, to “Mel Brooks” an audience is to charge an infuriatingly high ticket price for a show you expect will be a smash hit, as Brooks himself did by charging $450 for the best seats to “Young Frankenstein.” Fittingly enough, the show turned out to be a flop and the seats went largely unsold.
So, too, it seems are the obscenely overpriced high-end tickets at both New York ballparks. At Sunday’s Yankees game, which had all the makings of a sellout—a returning villain in Carl Pavano, a strong revenge theme following Saturday’s 22-4 drubbing, and a pleasant, if not exceptional, April afternoon—there were large swaths of empty seats in all price ranges. But mostly, in the high-rent districts, the ones they expected to sell out in a hurry.
And across town, the Mets were drawing their fifth straight crowd of 36,000 or fewer after announcing 41,000 in the house on Opening Night.
Yes, there is always a drop-off after the opener and before the kiddies get out of school, but last year on this very weekend, some 54,000-plus came to see Johan Santana pitch against the Brewers. On Saturday, with the same pitcher, same opponent, and a spectacular 75-degree day, only 36,312 came to the park, a number that would have rattled around in rickety old Shea.
Clearly, a market correction is in order and at least in the Bronx, I am confident it is on the way.
Two weeks ago, Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that “small amounts of our tickets might be overpriced,” and his lieutenant, Randy Levine, an almnus of the Rudy Giuliani school of media relations, uttered a coy, “We’ll see,” when asked if a price reduction was in the offing.
This weekend, I spoke with two Yankees officials, both of whom begged for anonymity. (I like to make them beg.) Both agreed that ticket prices, presumably set before the bottom dropped out of the economy, might need to be adjusted for a post-recessionary world.
“When you’ve got the owner of the team admitting the tickets are overpriced, you’ve got to figure something is in the works,” one of them said.
That something should be an immediate price reduction along with either partial refunds to those who have already paid full freight, or an equivalent credit toward tickets for next season.
Clearly, the great experiment went awry. New York will not go for $2,500 tickets to a ballgame, or $695 tickets, or even, judging by this weekend, for $125 tickets.
A dozen games into the season, and both teams in this town are seeing something they never expected to see in their sparkling new ballparks.
Empty seats. In this context, they’re a beautiful sight to behold.
By Wallace Matthews
Newsday (Long Island, N.Y.).<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" /><o></o>NEW YORK
Upon further review, maybe the Yankees and Mets should have built them smaller.
Their ballparks, I mean. One week into their new eras, and neither team seems able to fill the ones they’ve got, despite reams of priceless free publicity in our local newspapers and endless gratuitous hype on their own broadcasts.
Last year, when both teams finally owned up to the fact that there would be a total of 20,000 fewer seats available between the two ballparks, it appeared the New York metropolitan area would be grossly underserved for major-league baseball.
Now, it appears the opposite is true, and the teams have no one to blame but themselves.
Ninety miles down the turnpike, they are turning fans away at Citizens Bank Park, and here in New York, at least 10,000 seats go unoccupied every night.
There can be only one explanation for this. The tickets are too damned expensive. And something must be done about it soon.
Sunday, the Yankees hosted the Cleveland Indians and the Mets hosted the Milwaukee Brewers. Neither place came within 5,000 seats of being sold out.
Most teams, of course, would be overjoyed playing to 85 percent capacity in April, but of course, these are not most teams and this is not any other city.
Both of these ballparks were built on many of the same principles that are in the process of destroying our economy. Both teams grotesquely, and artificially, inflated the value of their product, and both did their best to create a false sense of demand by reducing capacity and trying to bully their longtime fans into paying their absurd new prices or risk being shut out.
Both suckered more than a few into forking over a lot of cash, including, no doubt, many who bought the tickets as a speculative investment, expecting to resell them at a profit later.
All of them are now getting a well-deserved jolt of reality.
For the past couple of years, the Yankees have sold out virtually every game, against any opponent, any time of year. And the Mets, who traditionally have lagged behind their Bronx counterparts in attendance, had in the last couple of seasons at Shea Stadium been playing to houses 90 percent full.
But when Opening Day at the new Yankee Stadium draws only 48,000 paid admissions, and the Mets, after nearly, but not quite, filling the 42,000 seats in their opener but then can’t draw much above 36,000, you know that whatever genius in each team’s business office decided it was time to Mel Brooks the baseball fans of this town made a serious error in judgment.
For the theatrically challenged among you, to “Mel Brooks” an audience is to charge an infuriatingly high ticket price for a show you expect will be a smash hit, as Brooks himself did by charging $450 for the best seats to “Young Frankenstein.” Fittingly enough, the show turned out to be a flop and the seats went largely unsold.
So, too, it seems are the obscenely overpriced high-end tickets at both New York ballparks. At Sunday’s Yankees game, which had all the makings of a sellout—a returning villain in Carl Pavano, a strong revenge theme following Saturday’s 22-4 drubbing, and a pleasant, if not exceptional, April afternoon—there were large swaths of empty seats in all price ranges. But mostly, in the high-rent districts, the ones they expected to sell out in a hurry.
And across town, the Mets were drawing their fifth straight crowd of 36,000 or fewer after announcing 41,000 in the house on Opening Night.
Yes, there is always a drop-off after the opener and before the kiddies get out of school, but last year on this very weekend, some 54,000-plus came to see Johan Santana pitch against the Brewers. On Saturday, with the same pitcher, same opponent, and a spectacular 75-degree day, only 36,312 came to the park, a number that would have rattled around in rickety old Shea.
Clearly, a market correction is in order and at least in the Bronx, I am confident it is on the way.
Two weeks ago, Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that “small amounts of our tickets might be overpriced,” and his lieutenant, Randy Levine, an almnus of the Rudy Giuliani school of media relations, uttered a coy, “We’ll see,” when asked if a price reduction was in the offing.
This weekend, I spoke with two Yankees officials, both of whom begged for anonymity. (I like to make them beg.) Both agreed that ticket prices, presumably set before the bottom dropped out of the economy, might need to be adjusted for a post-recessionary world.
“When you’ve got the owner of the team admitting the tickets are overpriced, you’ve got to figure something is in the works,” one of them said.
That something should be an immediate price reduction along with either partial refunds to those who have already paid full freight, or an equivalent credit toward tickets for next season.
Clearly, the great experiment went awry. New York will not go for $2,500 tickets to a ballgame, or $695 tickets, or even, judging by this weekend, for $125 tickets.
A dozen games into the season, and both teams in this town are seeing something they never expected to see in their sparkling new ballparks.
Empty seats. In this context, they’re a beautiful sight to behold.
like someone said above...if your a big redsox fan your almost better off going on the road to see them...esp in that division...toronto/balt arent too far away for a cheap flight or drive....even going to NY to see them was a lot cheaper ticket wise than fenway bc their stadium was so much better im sure for the next few years it wont be the case bc of the new stadium draw...
