Humans weren't meant to eat meat?

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I used to think we were not meant to eat meat.

But I think of the fact that a vegetarian could eat a piece of meat and become sick simply because their body does not have the active enzymes to digest the meat properly. A person who actively eats meat, their system takes it down and digests it accordingly.

Just a simple fact like that leads me to believe that humans are omnivorous and adapative to 'what's on the plate' (so to speak.)

I think being vegan is a lot more healthy long term, but that doesnt mean we are supposed to eat that way IMO.

That sounds very evolutionary err I mean revolutionary...we adapt to our environment very well, I watched a documentary about a group in Africa that doesn't drink water...because there isn't enough to be had...they get there water from Goats Milk...
 

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don't get me wrong i also am having troubles staying away from the cooked meat but i can say i have been cutting down to very little meat a week and many more fruits, greens, nuts, and grains.


Once again life is too short to eat frickin nuts and berries. I'm very healthy - love a good steak. What's the problem with that.
 

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That sounds very evolutionary err I mean revolutionary...we adapt to our environment very well, I watched a documentary about a group in Africa that doesn't drink water...because there isn't enough to be had...they get there water from Goats Milk...

That is correct again Bill we adapt/evolve to our enviroments that is why humans are the top species we are the best at adapting. Way way back we more than likely starter out not eating meat and then somewhere along the line many 10's of thousands or 100's of thousands of years ago we figured out that other animals were another good food source that should be tapped and we did and we have'nt looked back.

If humans were'nt ment to eat meat than we would'nt be eating meat. Eating meat is'nt some new phonomanom we've been doing it for 10's of thousands of years or more but man has evolved over millions of years or whatever the number is but maybe for the first 8 hundred thousand years we did'nt eat meat at all so we were evolving as non meat eaters but since we have started eating meat I'm sure our bodys have evolved and will continue to evolve as both meat and plant eaters.

By the way Chipanzies or however you spell it our closest relative they also eat meat, they like to hunt and eat monkeys.
 

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stocks, your theories on the evolution of man's eating habits are interesting but not backed by any facts. i could just as easily say the same for vegan eating habits, such as humans have been eating nuts fruits veggies and other forms of protein and never have had to evolve to eating meat. why go out of your way to eat something that could potentially be harmful for you now that we know our digestive system can't handle or digest it.
the pig's digestive system is the closest to our own except they produce 10,000x more hydrochloric acid to digest the meat they are able to digest. not monkeys which also produce way more digestive acid.
 

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oh and hehateme, life isn't short to me. it's actually a long time before, i hope, i will pass so i'll try to treat my body like it's the most important thing in the universe, which it is for my survival.
 

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Most animals who rely on greens have more than one stomach, because it's hard to extract the nutrients from plant life.

Rabbits, which only have a single stomach get around this problem by eating their own shit.

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random, I always wondered about the undigested meat build up in the intestines.
Is that due to a lack of acids?

And body builders that devour rediculous amounts of red meat they never live that long.

Undigested meat doesn't build up in the intestines.

You've been watching too many late night infomercials for colon blow cleanser.

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Maybe eating hamster fodder would work somewhere like in the garden of eden.

But where I'm at has sub zero temperatures, or not much above zero, for four to six months of the year.

Humans are highly adaptable omnivores.

Human vegetarians tend to be either the rich bored western middle classes who like to play at these things, or the dirt poor of the third world who can't afford meat and fish.

From my own observations of decadent playing-at-it western vegetarians, chocolate appears to play an extremely large role in their diet.
 

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the average 50 year old meat-eating person - male or female - has up to 8 pounds of undigestable meat in their bowels. This decaying "flesh" or meat as people like to think of it, is the common cause of what many people think of as the "price of living" - colon and pancreatic cancers by the age of 50-60.

Think about what a surgeon tells a heart bypass survivor "cut out the meat in your diet, eat more fruits and vegetables". I say, "why wait until you have to go under the surgeon's knife, start now."
 

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Not really mentioned by the hedge munchers is the small matter of omnivores being amongst the smartest animals on the planet.

There must be something about a highly variable diet that contributes towards this intellectual superiority.

Pigs and crows for instance, are good examples of omnivore superiority in the natural world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnivore
 

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the average 50 year old meat-eating person - male or female - has up to 8 pounds of undigestable meat in their bowels. This decaying "flesh" or meat as people like to think of it, is the common cause of what many people think of as the "price of living" - colon and pancreatic cancers by the age of 50-60.

Think about what a surgeon tells a heart bypass survivor "cut out the meat in your diet, eat more fruits and vegetables". I say, "why wait until you have to go under the surgeon's knife, start now."

No way...you would die of toxic poisoning or colon blockage.

Do you know how the human body works?

The only people that talk about undigested meat in your bowels are people selling colon blow cleansers to knuckleheads dumb enuf to believe it.

Lean meats and meat in moderation is the healthiest thing you can eat.

It's impossible to be healthy on just a vegan diet.
 

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Random, where do you get your facts from? That pigs produce 10,000x more hydrochloric acid than humans, that our digestive system cannot handle meat, that the average 50-year-old person has up to 8 pounds of undiogested meat in his bowels and such?
 

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stocks, your theories on the evolution of man's eating habits are interesting but not backed by any facts. i could just as easily say the same for vegan eating habits, such as humans have been eating nuts fruits veggies and other forms of protein and never have had to evolve to eating meat. why go out of your way to eat something that could potentially be harmful for you now that we know our digestive system can't handle or digest it.
the pig's digestive system is the closest to our own except they produce 10,000x more hydrochloric acid to digest the meat they are able to digest. not monkeys which also produce way more digestive acid.

I have no idea about this but maybe you could look into out teeth as an example of evolution to eating meat and grains. I dont know if that would be an example its just something I was thinking about and maybe you could look into it seeing your interested in the subject.

Also about the vegan evolution thing you mentioned thats not really the same because humans do eat meat and we have for a long time so I'm not sure I see what your saying there.

Also a lot of grains and fruits are seasonal, take up north the inuit for a long time lived on an almost an all meat diet you have to adapt to your enviroment.

Anyway I'm not really sure the point of this thread are you a vegan or something trying to make an argument against eating meat because your many thousands of years too late humans have survived pretty good eating meat.
 

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Random, where do you get your facts from? That pigs produce 10,000x more hydrochloric acid than humans, that our digestive system cannot handle meat, that the average 50-year-old person has up to 8 pounds of undiogested meat in his bowels and such?

Well I heard the 8 pounds thing from the movie Beverly hills cop so it must be true.
 

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stocks, are you saying humans hanen't been eating nuts fruits greens etc.. for thousands of years?
 

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Once again life is too short to eat frickin nuts and berries. I'm very healthy - love a good steak. What's the problem with that.

Food is life. If I can't have a nice steak, a hot buttered lobsta roll, paglio fieno and clams casino, what's the since in living?

I like fruits too.

Banana splits, caramel apples and olives in my martini

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I'm getting hungry
 

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