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Yhea, they had a much better way of life then. They were free from all the horrors of modern time. God Damn that Pandora and her fucking box of evil. I love a good debate, and ill take any side...but this is one of those times where i would just have to throw my hands up and say "fuck it, you got me!". Because how do you defend that? Do you say the bible and the days we know as days are not one in the same? That changes the complexity of things just a bit. Or do you actually try to set out and prove Adam made his wife from his rib and he lived longer then any other creature known to man? Mind you 10X the longest life we have come to have known on earth. You talk about up a river without a paddle....
yep....Across the street, dude posted the 10 Ways You Know You're Fundamentalist Xtian...gotta go get it and bring it over
One was, "You are offended at suggestions man evolved from the muck and life found in a swamp, but you're okey dokey with mankind being made from the dirt in the earth"
One was, "You are offended at suggestions man evolved from the muck and life found in a swamp, but you're okey dokey with mankind being made from the dirt in the earth"
One of these days I'm going to make it back to Austin and sit down with ZIT to drink a beer at a blues music bar. And my plan if I let something slip that makes him want to brain me with his beer mug, I'll use my athleticism and catlike quickness to dodge through the tables while he lamely attempts to chase me on his brittle knees.
And of course the piano player will continue to bang the keys while the whole thing plays out
And of course the piano player will continue to bang the keys while the whole thing plays out
B/c its a FUCKEN BOOK!!! Do fucken believe everything you read, see, hear, etc...? You think fucken magic school bus is real cause its written and thousands of kids believe in it? If those kids were adults would it be more legit? ITS A FUCKEN BOOK. Your evidence and everything in b/w is based on faith. You can say some whack ass shit and I cant prove you wrong with my limited worldly knowledge.
The most important thing I want to get off my chest is religion is the fucken reason why half of all of worlds problem occur. You think Palestians and Jews would be fighting over some land if it had absoutley no significance? (Yes, they are not fighting for the land as much now as they are fighting for revenge) You think Osama would hate America if the idea of God never existed in his pea towel wrapped head?
(just removed ZIT from Ignore for reasons that can be better explained on Monday)
ZIT, my only success at talking with those who have passed from this plane involves people with who I had personal relationships when they were living on this plane.
Add in the fact that I believe "adam" to be a mythical person and I'm afraid that you're just going to have to believe the Genesis fable of him living over nine centuries.
ZIT, my only success at talking with those who have passed from this plane involves people with who I had personal relationships when they were living on this plane.
Add in the fact that I believe "adam" to be a mythical person and I'm afraid that you're just going to have to believe the Genesis fable of him living over nine centuries.
False religion is the reason why much of the worlds problems occur.
Christianity wasn't the only thing that gave us institutions of higher learning, hospitals, sciences, etc. What it did was mandated that every believer must partake in acts of mercy, and hospitals, orphanages, etc were established to meet this end. Universities in Europe were attached to cathedrals at first for theological trains, and gradually grew into free standing institutions. Oxford, for example, grew out of a chantry that was assigned to say Mass for the departed souls of the gentry in that area. There are still vestiges of this such as titles of academic leader, namely Dean, Chancellor, etc. Also, the robes that are worn at graduation are direct decedents of clerical garb from the middle ages. Princeton,
Yale, Harvard... all were originated as Christian institutions.
Do a search on the history of hospitals.
Christians can be proud to know that they virtually invented hospitals. Christians early on began to take care of the poor and sick in their neighborhoods. By the year 251, the church in Rome supported more than 1,500 widows and needy persons, all of whom were "fed by the grace and kindness of the Lord." Two great figures in fourth century Christianity, St. Fabiola of Rome and St. Basil of Caesarea went further and built large complexes with their personal fortunes. Basil's "new city, the storehouse of piety," contained hospices, training facilities for those out of work and, of course, areas to tend the sick. St. Jerome wrote of Fabiola, "Was there a naked or bedridden person who was not clothed with garments supplied by her? Were there ever any in want to whom she failed to give a quick and unhesitating supply? Even Rome was not wide enough for her pity." And, oh yes, all for free.
The institution of atheism in the last century has lead to more death, suffering and misery than any other system of belief the world has ever known. Contrast the accomplishments and failures of Christianity with atheism. How many people perished in the nightmare of communism in Russia, China, Cambodia and elsewhere. Or the fascist regimes of Europe in the first half of this century. These regimes were avowed atheist, some even reaching back to their pagan roots to undermine the Church in their lands Yes, these regimes did try and institutionalize charities that their christian counterparts had pioneered. The result? Hospitals that began to eliminate those deemed "unworthy" of life. The brutal murder of the mentally ill, of those of a race deemed to be sub-human, and so on.
To be fair Barman, you made the statement that *anyone* that
passed from this plane is fully accessible as long as one has faith
enough.
I realize Barman that we have very different world-views in
politics and in religion. But, I think we both can make better efforts
to keep the discussions on here more civil, with less rancor.
I stand by that assertion and repeat that in my own personal experience, I've only had sufficient faith or confidence to talk with a very short list of people with who I have had previous personal relationships.
I'd put more time into it if I thought it was worthwhile. But I'm too busy lately learning guitar, capping sports, building my businesses, flirting with my wife, typing on internet forums.....shit adds up
As for the latter comment, yah - it's become a bit too easy to be lazy and post snappy barbs and personal insults. I'd improve my own head and probably yours too if I were to take a step back and go easy.
(good spot for clinking beer mugs smiley)
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