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Let your voice be heard!

Adam Williams, the Tico Times reporter covering this story has been calling Sportsbooks in Costa Rica this morning, trying to get opinions, and comments for the story. If you want to have your voice heard, please feel free to call him to 2258-1558. Just ask for Adam Williams.

Considering all that is potentially at risk for the industry here in Costa Rica, I hope more of you will do as I did and call him to 2258-1558!

I would also encourage locals to write Amelia Rueda of "Nuestra Voz" to escribame@ameliarueda.com so our concerns can be voiced before it's too late!

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Article on TICOTIMES today

http://www.ticotimes.net/business.htm

<TABLE cellPadding=5 width=452 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=style186 width=442 height=54>Proposed Tax on Gambling Could Alter Online</TD></TR><TR><TD class=credito vAlign=top height=25>By Adam Williams
Tico Times Staff | awilliams@ticotimes.net

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=style95 vAlign=top height=1149>As late Monday night turned into early Tuesday morning only a handful of gamblers occupied two of the six poker tables in the Horseshoe Casino on Avenida 1 in downtown San José. At the more populated of the two tables, the minimum bet to play a hand of blackjack was ¢2,000, or about $3.30.
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</TD></TR><TR><TD>The Bet is On: Chips are ready at Casino Concorde in Hotel Irazú in northwest San José. Gambling operations in Costa Rica have enjoyed a fairly sure thing for years. However, a proposed special tax on revenues could end that streak. </TD></TR><TR><TD>
Ronald Reyes | Tico Times​
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A retiree sat at the end of the table, seemingly unconcerned with the results of his bets. As his losses accumulated, his bets increased, even as his demeanor remained indifferent. After several losses in a row, he upped his already hefty minimum bet, putting 10 black chips, two stacks of five, in the small white-lined square designated for bets. A friend noticed.
“That's a thousand dollar bet,” he said, more in shock than admonishment.
The dealer distributed the cards. The retiree drew a three and a five. He tapped the table for a third card and received another five. He tapped again and drew a jack. He had drawn 23 and was busted. The dealer reached over and raked the cards and chips to his side of the table. The game went on.​
This scene is commonplace in casino gambling. Exorbitant amounts of money are spent on games of chance and, when the bettor loses the money disguised as chips, the casino collects the losses. In Costa Rica, the gambling and betting industry raked in an estimated $4 billion in 2008. Until now, casinos and online gambling in the country have been free from special taxes and have been unregulated. But this may soon change.
The Proposed Tax
On Tuesday, July 21, Finance Minister Guillermo Zúñiga announced that the Finance Ministry will introduce a bill in the Legislative Assembly to impose a special 2 percent tax on gambling revenues – online and offline – earned in Costa Rica. The bill is set to reach the Legislative Assembly on Monday, Aug. 3, and a vote on its approval is expected to be held sometime in mid-August.
If the bill passes, Zúñiga said, the Finance Ministry plans to create a regulatory body comprised of representatives of the Ministry of the Presidency, Security Ministry, the Costa Rican Tourism Board (ICT), the Chief Prosecutor's Office, the Judicial Investigation Police (OIJ), and the Superintendence of Financial Entities (SUGEF). This board would attempt to ensure that all gambling locations and affiliates are licensed and are honoring the imposed tax.
The Finance Ministry estimates that the proposed 2 percent tax will generate $85 million in government income.
“The principal idea of the bill is to regulate activity,” Zúñiga said. “Gambling is something that we are currently not monitoring and, thus, not taking advantage of. If we can regulate it, it could create millions of dollars for the economy.”
Online Gambling Mecca
Currently, the ICT reports there are 53 casinos in Costa Rica, and it estimates that there are at least 300 online betting operations and call centers. However, because these are not regulated, the exact number is unknown. What is known is that their earnings are currently untaxed by the Costa Rican government.
“Costa Rica is known as the Mecca for online operators,” said Christopher Costigan, publisher of Gambling911.com. “It is a great place to live and there is a lack of government interference in terms of licensing fees and taxing. Most operators get a license to do business (in Costa Rica), maybe like a data entry license of some type, and only have to pay about $10,000 to set up there.”
Costigan described the process for online betting operators to set up shop in Costa Rica : obtain a data processing license, find a location to take calls and start taking bets. A majority of the calls received by the locations in Costa Rica come from the U.S., and money earned from the bets are typically routed to banks in Europe or other countries outside Costa Rica, making it very difficult to identify earnings, much less tax them..
“I've worked in the industry a long time, and if I were given the project of going to every sports book and call center and finding out what their gross profit is, I don't think I would be close to accurate,” said a manager of an online betting location in Costa Rica, who asked to remain anonymous. “If they were serious about creating a tax structure, I think that this in not the best direction to take it.”
Previous Attempts to Tax Gambling
In September 2007, the Legislative Assembly passed a law that attempted to tax sports books and electronic betting operations based on the number of employees on their payroll. The tax was applied to firms with 10 or more employes who earned more than ¢10 million (about $17,000) a year. While the law was passed, it hasn't quite worked as intended. In fact, it is widely ignored.
According to managers at online betting locations, the accounts of operations that reported their earnings to banks subsequently were closed.
“When the operations attempted to be honest with their earnings, their accounts were closed,” said an online betting operator who asked to remain anonymous. “When word got out that the accounts were being closed, online operators adopted a ‘don't ask don't tell' policy.”
With the ‘don't ask, don't tell' mindset of online operators, it appears online betting locations will not willingly identify themselves or their earnings for tax purposes. Some insinuated they would attempt to avoid regulation as long as possible.
“The people making the decision to try to tax online betting have zero clue about how this industry works,” the anonymous source said.
If the New Tax Passes
According to Zúñiga, the bill is expected to be approved by the Legislative Assembly by mid-August. If the bill is passed, it is expected to dramatically alter the online betting industry in Costa Rica. When similar regulations were applied in other countries, such as Antigua and the Domincan Republic, it ignited a mass exodus of online operators. A similar effect could be seen in Costa Rica.
“If the tax passes, I'm sure lots of operators would consider leaving the country,” Costigan said. “I assume they would consider moving to other places, such as Panama. Some operators there and they have been doing pretty well the last few years. It's close enough to Costa Rica to be a potential option.”
Many online operators indicated the tax would drastically alter their operations, if not cause them to leave Costa Rica entirely.
In the meantime, online operators will continue taking calls and placing bets, hoping that luck is on their side and the new tax initiative doesn't make it into law.

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I would love to see if Agami has anything to say about this. Is he still alive?
 

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Agami went to shit and hogs ate him...LMFAO What a clown he was

Get out now guys, its gonna get ugly. Nah wait til football over, you have time. But this will pass this time from what I am hearing from the inside sources, but til next June/July.....

Gonna be a shitload of pot smoking Ticos outta work when it does go through....

Enjoy while it last...............................................................:toast:
 

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When similar regulations were applied in other countries, such as Antigua and the Domincan Republic, it ignited a mass exodus of online operators. A similar effect could be seen in Costa Rica.

Fucking greed on the Gov part here. Just raising the licsense fee would have done it, but looking for % ot net profit, and the BLACK BOXES will kill the industry in Costa Rica........

Glad I got out when I did...................

P.S Its a big world and CR not the only place ya can do it from.........

Fuck the 3rd World greed get out soon as ya can
 

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impose a special 2 percent tax on gambling revenues – online and offline – earned in Costa Rica.

That makes it very simple, online gaming operations don't earn anything in Costa Rica. Guess the government and banks shot themselves in the foot years ago making it so impossible for the gaming industry to accept revenue here.

So this doesn't mean anything other than operations here will earn all income in their offshore subsidiaries, like they already do, and the bigger operations will pick how much revenue they decide the earn in Costa Rica (i.e. enough to pay their visible operational expenses nothing more). 2% tax on public payroll + rent will still be a significant amount from some though.
 

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AM Costa Rica has a different view in their article this week, worth checking out
 

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Worth checking out but not worth a copy/paste? Oh yeah, and thanks for the link schmuck.
 

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This was in today's Amcostarica

http://www.amcostarica.com/morenews2.htm

Finance ministry will seek to tax virtual casinos in new bill
By the A.M. Costa Rica staff

The financial ministry is about to present to the legislature a bill to regulate virtual casino operations located in the country. Ministry officials said they hoped to get up to $100 million a year in new taxes.

The disclosure came from Jenny Phillips, the minister of Hacienda in the Comisión de Control del Ingreso y el Gasto Público. The minster pointed out that the virtual casinos are unregulated now. She did not amplify what the bill would contain nor was the scope of the types of gambling to be covered outlined.
The minister said that the bill is part of a campaign against tax fraud and reforms so that the country can take in more taxes. Virtual casinos and online gambling operations are all over Costa Rica. This country and Antigua are the two places with the highest concentration of virtual gambling, the minster said.

There was no indication what provisions would be made to keep the virtual operations, which are highly transportable, from going elsewhere if taxes are levied. Although the operations themselves are not taxed, such businesses employ many local individuals who contribute to the general economy.
 

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It always pisses me off when someone talks about a tax as if it creates new money. It doesn't, it just takes money out of the pockets of citizens and business (private sector) and puts it into the public sector where corrupt politicians trade favors and get paid by special interests groups deciding on how to spend it. It's a hugely negative sum redistribution.

Taking taxes from the same people that at least think they are getting favors from the public trough (like the average uninformed citizen), and has the illusion they get to decide how it is spent (via democratic participation) is one thing; taking it away from a group that has no political representation and generally feels prosecuted is going to backfire.

$100 million if this tax earns is $100 million taken out of the pockets of e-gaming businesses (and its employees) here. Fantastical accounting, I don't see $100 million anywhere I look around here. And for every several thousand dollars they really do take away from business operators here is another Tico employee fired.
 

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It always pisses me off when someone talks about a tax as if it creates new money. It doesn't, it just takes money out of the pockets of citizens and business (private sector) and puts it into the public sector where corrupt politicians trade favors and get paid by special interests groups deciding on how to spend it. It's a hugely negative sum redistribution.

Taking taxes from the same people that at least think they are getting favors from the public trough (like the average uninformed citizen), and has the illusion they get to decide how it is spent (via democratic participation) is one thing; taking it away from a group that has no political representation and generally feels prosecuted is going to backfire.

$100 million if this tax earns is $100 million taken out of the pockets of e-gaming businesses (and its employees) here. Fantastical accounting, I don't see $100 million anywhere I look around here. And for every several thousand dollars they really do take away from business operators here is another Tico employee fired.


This. And, as you said, they are seriously overshooting potential revenue. C'mon...$100 million from a 2% tax on the online gaming industry in CR?

$100 million is 2% of $5 BILLION.

Costa Rica Economy

GDP (2007): $26.23 billion.

They are talking to the wrong people or just making stuff up. They have no way of estimating the amount they can acquire from a tax like this. They dont even know how many books are operating in CR much less how much each one makes.

This is a bad idea that'll get somebody leaving office some severance pay...thats it. Go back to the number employees or in-use stations if you are serious about taxing and regulating the industry.
 

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