How Italy went from stage 1 to stage 6 in 3 weeks

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STAGE 1:
"You know that coronavirus exists, and the first cases begin to appear in your country. Well, nothing to worry about, it’s just a bad flu! I’m not 75+yo so what could possibly happen to me? I’m safe, everybody is overreacting, what’s the need to go out with masks and stock toilet paper? I’m going to live my life as usual, there’s no need to freak out.

STAGE 2:
The number of cases begins to be significant. They declare “red zone” and quarantine one or two small cities where they found the first cases and a lot of people were infected (Feb 22nd). Well that’s sad and somewhat worrisome but they’re taking care of it so nothing to panic about. There are some deaths but they’re all old people so the media is just creating panic for views, how shameful. People lead their life as usual.. I’m not going to stop going out and meeting my friends am I? It’s not going to get me. Everybody’s fine here.

STAGE 3:
The number of cases is rapidly going up. They almost doubled in one day. There’s more deaths they declare red zones and quarantine the 4 regions where the majority of cases are registered (March 7).
In Italy 25% of the county is under quarantine. Schools and universities are closed in these areas but bars, work places, restaurants and so on are still open. The decree gets released by some newspaper before it should, so around 10k people from the red zone escape from the area that same night to return to their homes in the rest of Italy (this will be important later). Most of the population of the remaining 75% of Italy still does what it always does. They still don’t realise the seriousness of the situation. Everywhere you turn people advise to wash your hands and limit going out, large groups are forbidden, every 5 minutes on TV they remind you of these rules. But it still hasn’t settled in people’s mind.

STAGE 4:
The number of cases is heavily increasing. Schools and universities are closed everywhere for at least a month. It’s a national health emergency. Hospitals are at capacity, entire units are cleared to make space for coronavirus patients. There aren’t enough doctors and nurses. They’re calling retired ones and those in their last 2 years of university. There’s no shifts any more, just work as much as you can. Of course doctors and nurses are getting infected, spreading it to their families.

There’s too many cases of pneumonia, too many people who need ICU and not enough places for everyone. At this point is like being at war: doctors have to choose who to treat based on their survival chance. That means that the elderly and trauma/stroke patients can’t get treated because corona cases have priority. There’s not enough resources for everybody so they have to be distributed for best outcome. I wish I was joking but it’s literally what has happened. People have died because there wasn’t any more space.I have a doctor friend who called me devastated because he had to let 3 people die that day. Nurses crying because they see people dying and can’t do anything aside from offering some oxygen. A friend’s relative died yesterday of corona because they couldn’t treat him. It’s chaos, the system is collapsing. Coronavirus and the crisis it’s provoking is all you hear about everywhere.

STAGE 5:
Remember the 10k idiot who ran from the red zone to the rest of Italy? Well, the entire country has to be declared under quarantine (March 9). The goal is to delay the spreading of the virus as much as possible. People can go to work, do grocery shopping, go to the pharmacy, and all businesses are still open because otherwise the economy would collapse (it already is), but you can’t move from your commune unless you have a valid reason.
Now there’s fear, you see a lot of people with masks and gloves around but there are still are people who think that they’re invincible, who go to restaurants in large groups, hang out with friends to drink and so on.

STAGE 6:
2 days later, it’s announced that all (most) businesses are closed: Bars, restaurants, shopping centers, all kinds of shops etc. Everything except supermarkets and pharmacies. You can move around only if you have certification with you. The certification is an official document where you declare your name, where you’re coming from, where you’re going and what for. There are a lot of police check points.
If you’re found outside without a valid reason you risk a fine up to €206. If you’re a known positive patient you risk from 1 to 12 years of jail for homicide."


 

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The Italy hot zone is directly related to the 500k Chinese (350k legal, 150k illegal) that are largely concentrated in northern Italy. A decade ago most famous Italian garment factories, especially the high-end leather ones, either sold out to Chinese companies who sent cheap labor to Italy to work the factory or the Italian company brought in Chinese to pay them below-normal wages. Instead of moving the factories to China they kept them in Italy so they could use the "Made in Italy" label that people buying high-end leather jackets/purses/shoes want to see. The city Prato, in Tuscany, is called "Little China"...

well, the vast majority of these workers are from the Hubei Province, and city of Wuhan specifically, which is a heavy garment-factory place in China. and, many of these workers returned home for Chinese New Year which was January 25, 2020 and returned to northern Italy with largely asymptomatic Covid-19. If that's not bad enough the liberal asshole Mayor of Florence saw the tide of anti-Chinese sentiment growing so pushed a "hug the Chinese" program in Italy which is about as opposite of Social Distancing as you can get, thus many Italians contracted the virus in northern Italy. You can watch the Hug a Chinese at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMdg4morQs

and, the virus has spread quickly since February and the average age of death is around 80 YO so, like any other flu or SARS virus, is particularly risky for elderly.

and, that, my friend is why northern Italy with their daily direct flights in/out of Wuhan for the leather garment industry, has been so badly affected

if you want to read about this transition from Italians making Italian Leather goods to Chinese making Italian Leather goods in Italy do so at:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/minority-report/201807/made-in-italy
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-feb-20-fg-madeinitaly20-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/business/italy-china-far-right.html
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany
https://sourcingjournal.com/topics/...uxury-vincenzo-capezzuto-armani-fendi-180823/
 

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R/tide - any chance we hear on National Nightly News like ABC, CBS, NBC any of what you’ve shared?

Nope, never....I’m not questioning, or double checking your data, but I’m sure the transparency folks won’t be asking for this to be reported

Be safe during this stressful time!
 

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R/tide - any chance we hear on National Nightly News like ABC, CBS, NBC any of what you’ve shared?

Nope, never....I’m not questioning, or double checking your data, but I’m sure the transparency folks won’t be asking for this to be reported

Be safe during this stressful time!

it's possible, but unlikely given that those networks aren't news sites anymore they're just clickbait whores

last I saw the MSM was holding to the Italy crisis as being started by two tourists in Rome who were immediately quarantined. For point of reference Rome is 3 hours from Florence & Prato and 6 hours from Milan which is where the outbreak is severe. This has everything to do with the timing of the virus (Chinese New Year last week of January) and the thousands of northern Italian garment workers who returned home to Hubei Providence for the holiday and brought the virus back with them.

I posted plenty of MSM links to show the origin of the Chinese workers in northern Italy but the current MSM and their "open borders" narrative will not allow them to explain why northern Italy has been ravaged by Covid-19....thus....let's blame it on two tourists in Rome
 

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I was in Genoa, Italy last Summer. It was a stop on cruise. My suitcase had broken and someone on ship suggested that there were numerous stores off the port area that sold luggage and bags. I walked around there and sure enough all the stores were run by Chinese. These were the kind of stores you would see in any Chinatown in big cities in the US. Genoa is the busiest port in Italy. No doubt it is one of the epicenters of the virus. I took a train to Milan from there.
 

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I was in Genoa, Italy last Summer. It was a stop on cruise. My suitcase had broken and someone on ship suggested that there were numerous stores off the port area that sold luggage and bags. I walked around there and sure enough all the stores were run by Chinese. These were the kind of stores you would see in any Chinatown in big cities in the US. Genoa is the busiest port in Italy. No doubt it is one of the epicenters of the virus. I took a train to Milan from there.
well if you had taken the milan 2 minsk train...you could've popped in and seen rochelle rochelle
 
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My city, Vancouver, has a large Chinese population, including those from Hubei & Wuhan who have been coming & going from there. I wonder how bad the spread of the virus will become here in the next few weeks & months. Two other cities, Toronto & San Francisco, also with many of Chinese origin, come to mind, for comparison purposes & to keep an eye on.
 

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My city, Vancouver, has a large Chinese population, including those from Hubei & Wuhan who have been coming & going from there. I wonder how bad the spread of the virus will become here in the next few weeks & months.

seems like it was a good idea to close the border to non essential traffic ahead of time
 

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The Italy hot zone is directly related to the 500k Chinese (350k legal, 150k illegal) that are largely concentrated in northern Italy. A decade ago most famous Italian garment factories, especially the high-end leather ones, either sold out to Chinese companies who sent cheap labor to Italy to work the factory or the Italian company brought in Chinese to pay them below-normal wages. Instead of moving the factories to China they kept them in Italy so they could use the "Made in Italy" label that people buying high-end leather jackets/purses/shoes want to see. The city Prato, in Tuscany, is called "Little China"...

well, the vast majority of these workers are from the Hubei Province, and city of Wuhan specifically, which is a heavy garment-factory place in China. and, many of these workers returned home for Chinese New Year which was January 25, 2020 and returned to northern Italy with largely asymptomatic Covid-19. If that's not bad enough the liberal asshole Mayor of Florence saw the tide of anti-Chinese sentiment growing so pushed a "hug the Chinese" program in Italy which is about as opposite of Social Distancing as you can get, thus many Italians contracted the virus in northern Italy. You can watch the Hug a Chinese at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMdg4morQs

and, the virus has spread quickly since February and the average age of death is around 80 YO so, like any other flu or SARS virus, is particularly risky for elderly.

and, that, my friend is why northern Italy with their daily direct flights in/out of Wuhan for the leather garment industry, has been so badly affected

if you want to read about this transition from Italians making Italian Leather goods to Chinese making Italian Leather goods in Italy do so at:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/minority-report/201807/made-in-italy
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-feb-20-fg-madeinitaly20-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/business/italy-china-far-right.html
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany
https://sourcingjournal.com/topics/...uxury-vincenzo-capezzuto-armani-fendi-180823/

Interesting links, thanks for sharing.
 

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Excellent thread boys cheersgif
 

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Has Italy released info on the percentage of infected or dead of Chinese or Wuhan origin, or those who recently visited there?

Just not those that visited, those that work in Italy that went home for the Chinese New Year and returned , not hard to connect the dots
 

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Italy's situation gives more credibility to those who have said how much China lied about how bad Hubei and Wuhan really have been.
 

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