How do you feel about today's SCOTUS ruling FZ?

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that's whats wrong with the world today everyone sitting on the fence don't effect me stuff it's right or wrong

no morals or values and people wonder why the world is so fucked up

hows that saying go stand for something or fall for anything :ohno:


and by the way i think it's WRONG :103631605

I've served two combat tours in Afghanistan over the course of 18 months. Think I have a small amount of morals and values.
 

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The fact that zit and acebb are against it.....you know it was a good decision.

People pick and choose what they wanna believe in the bible and will use it to justify their own bigotry.

Two straight good decisions by the Supreme Court.....they still have a few wackos there that refuse to progress with the times but the majority is normal and that's good for the country.
 

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The fact that zit and acebb are against it.....you know it was a good decision.

People pick and choose what they wanna believe in the bible and will use it to justify their own bigotry.

Two straight good decisions by the Supreme Court.....they still have a few wackos there that refuse to progress with the times but the majority is normal and that's good for the country.

Every religion in the world has people that pick and choose what they want to believe. Don't single out the bible.
 

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It's a moment of truth for everyone. It's time to stand up for your beliefs and not be PC about it. I will not surrender my faith in the fabrics of PC which will only attack, dilute and try to redefine the very essence of God himself.




Very well written.......
 

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Doesn't work like that....besides marriage isn't what it is all cranked up to be nowadays.....too easy for divorce and most marriages end up in them......who's to say that two women or two men cannot have a good relationship in a marital situation? Today's ruling is a good and fair one in my opinion.....the ruling has no effect on me so I say live and let live.....worry about yourself and your family rather than a Supreme Court decision.....

No sir, it is not. Most marriages end up in divorce these days and many more are unhappy. I say if gays and lesbians want to experience the same, then they can be just as miserable as the hetero population.

I agree with your post 100%. I'm in the live and let live camp.

Most of these holier than thou religious fanatics that pretend to know the answers to everything because their religion says its so fail to understand that religion is just like any other organization with rules and tenets. It is MAN MADE. Someone a long time ago and in some cases more recently decided that they would start a religion and wrote down rules and prayers and beliefs of how to live life. The rest of people are just sheep mostly. There is no divine being instructing humans on the right and wrong way to live life but most people are too dumb to realize that. Most people in this world are dumb. For those of you religious fanatics that try to impose your religious beliefs on the freedom that this great country affords us, you can move to a country that aligns better to your religious fanaticism. If these fucking religious fanatics spent as much time improving themselves as they do trying to tell others how to live their lives then this world would be a better place.

Yes sir, there is a whole host of historical anecdotes that show that show lots of bloodshed and conflict because of religion. Because people are so fanatical about what some cooks thousands of years ago put together and called a religion. People are just really dumb.

I say have fun. Life is short. Live and let live and get yours during our short time on this tiny rock. One day we will cease to exist. One day humans will cease to exist. One day the sun will flame out. Enjoy yourselves now gentlemen. There is no "afterlife." But most people are too afraid of the unknown so the sheep flock to safety in the form of religion because it gives them more certainty in the face of uncertainty. I think the religious fanatics are the real cowards.

I say if a guy wants toget nailed in the ass by another guy or if a lesbo wants to chomp box then go for it. Who am I to tell them not to take it up he ass or lick a pussy. Good for them. I get my pleasure from fucking women. I wouldn't want someone telling me I can't fuck women anymore because someone elses religion says its wrong.

By the way, what religion says gambling is okay? How the fuck are people on a gambling forum pretending to be holier than thou and throw stones. Crazy!! Just saying...

That is all.
 

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No sir, it is not. Most marriages end up in divorce these days and many more are unhappy. I say if gays and lesbians want to experience the same, then they can be just as miserable as the hetero population.

I agree with your post 100%. I'm in the live and let live camp.

Most of these holier than thou religious fanatics that pretend to know the answers to everything because their religion says its so fail to understand that religion is just like any other organization with rules and tenets. It is MAN MADE. Someone a long time ago and in some cases more recently decided that they would start a religion and wrote down rules and prayers and beliefs of how to live life. The rest of people are just sheep mostly. There is no divine being instructing humans on the right and wrong way to live life but most people are too dumb to realize that. Most people in this world are dumb. For those of you religious fanatics that try to impose your religious beliefs on the freedom that this great country affords us, you can move to a country that aligns better to your religious fanaticism. If these fucking religious fanatics spent as much time improving themselves as they do trying to tell others how to live their lives then this world would be a better place.

Yes sir, there is a whole host of historical anecdotes that show that show lots of bloodshed and conflict because of religion. Because people are so fanatical about what some cooks thousands of years ago put together and called a religion. People are just really dumb.

I say have fun. Life is short. Live and let live and get yours during our short time on this tiny rock. One day we will cease to exist. One day humans will cease to exist. One day the sun will flame out. Enjoy yourselves now gentlemen. There is no "afterlife." But most people are too afraid of the unknown so the sheep flock to safety in the form of religion because it gives them more certainty in the face of uncertainty. I think the religious fanatics are the real cowards.

I say if a guy wants toget nailed in the ass by another guy or if a lesbo wants to chomp box then go for it. Who am I to tell them not to take it up he ass or lick a pussy. Good for them. I get my pleasure from fucking women. I wouldn't want someone telling me I can't fuck women anymore because someone elses religion says its wrong.

By the way, what religion says gambling is okay? How the fuck are people on a gambling forum pretending to be holier than thou and throw stones. Crazy!! Just saying...

That is all.

Great post.
 

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No sir, it is not. Most marriages end up in divorce these days and many more are unhappy. I say if gays and lesbians want to experience the same, then they can be just as miserable as the hetero population.

I agree with your post 100%. I'm in the live and let live camp.

Most of these holier than thou religious fanatics that pretend to know the answers to everything because their religion says its so fail to understand that religion is just like any other organization with rules and tenets. It is MAN MADE. Someone a long time ago and in some cases more recently decided that they would start a religion and wrote down rules and prayers and beliefs of how to live life. The rest of people are just sheep mostly. There is no divine being instructing humans on the right and wrong way to live life but most people are too dumb to realize that. Most people in this world are dumb. For those of you religious fanatics that try to impose your religious beliefs on the freedom that this great country affords us, you can move to a country that aligns better to your religious fanaticism. If these fucking religious fanatics spent as much time improving themselves as they do trying to tell others how to live their lives then this world would be a better place.

Yes sir, there is a whole host of historical anecdotes that show that show lots of bloodshed and conflict because of religion. Because people are so fanatical about what some cooks thousands of years ago put together and called a religion. People are just really dumb.

I say have fun. Life is short. Live and let live and get yours during our short time on this tiny rock. One day we will cease to exist. One day humans will cease to exist. One day the sun will flame out. Enjoy yourselves now gentlemen. There is no "afterlife." But most people are too afraid of the unknown so the sheep flock to safety in the form of religion because it gives them more certainty in the face of uncertainty. I think the religious fanatics are the real cowards.

I say if a guy wants toget nailed in the ass by another guy or if a lesbo wants to chomp box then go for it. Who am I to tell them not to take it up he ass or lick a pussy. Good for them. I get my pleasure from fucking women. I wouldn't want someone telling me I can't fuck women anymore because someone elses religion says its wrong.

By the way, what religion says gambling is okay? How the fuck are people on a gambling forum pretending to be holier than thou and throw stones. Crazy!! Just saying...

That is all.



Where do you think man gets his morals & laws from?

As for gambling, is there a difference between investing money in football & the stock market? I don't see one.......

So its okay to play the stock market & go to church but we cantbbet on sports & do the same?

Just because people have morals that don't fit your life style, doesn't mean you can throw stones back at them........

Do I agree in the gay marriage law? No I don't......but that doesn't mean that others dont.

If it wasn't for religion, there wouldn't be any law abiding citizens......& before you spout off some moronic statement about your not religious but follow the law......here's the deal.

You were taught your to follow & be a law abiding citizen by your parents, & they were taught the same, etc....etc.....going way back to where they were taught the same coming from religion.

Some of our laws that we as humans must follow come from the 10 commandments......can you go out to kill someone & not get in trouble? Can you steal? You can do both & get away with it, but there are laws we follow as humans......now whether you want to believe in God is up to you, but you still have to follow the laws we have in society, & they basically all come from religion......& so do our morals.

Now just because someone drinks avdew beers &/or gambles a bit, that doesn't remove them from not being able to give their opinion on gay marriage......

None of us are perfect, none even close, but when society breaks down morally, & is corrupted from within, its all down hill from there.......go back & study the past, & you will find the answers to where we're going.

Humans never learn & will always repeat the same sh*t........
 
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There are a few places in this country where gay marriage is still illegal. At least the American Indians still have their sanity.


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In the cultural battle over “same-sex” marriage, one of the American groups overlooked in the debate is the Native American population. Organized along ancestral tribes, these groups form a diverse, yet significant portion of the U.S. population.
Native American tribal leaders have discussed the issue of “same-sex” marriage at length over the past several years as the debate has raged in America.
Where many of them have come out on the matter is sure to make liberals howl.

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CNS News reports:
Tribal laws of the two largest Native American tribes in the United States prohibit gay marriage, as do the laws of nine other smaller tribes.
The Navajo and Cherokee Nations, the first and second largest tribes respectively, together have about 600,000 members. The nine smaller tribes that ban gay marriage have another 350,000 members. These tribes all either define marriage as between a man and a woman or explicitly prohibit same-sex marriage, according to the Associated Press (AP).
Since 2011, six of the eleven tribes revisited and upheld their preexisting legal definitions of marriage as between a man and a woman, AP researchers found.
It will not matter what the Supreme Court decides on “same-sex” marriage. These tribes have their own sovereignty as CNS News reveals:
Due to their status as sovereign nations, these 11 tribes will not need to change their marriage laws, which govern nearly one million tribal members, even if the Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage later this month.
If the court’s Obergefell v. Hodges ruling determines that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, Native American bans on gay marriage will remain in effect because federally-recognized tribes have the right to establish their own laws and are not subject to the U.S. Constitution.


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These Native American tribes have thought through this issue and their statements are clear, concise, and legally binding asCNS News explains:
For example, the Cherokee Nation Marriage and Family Protection Act of 2004 defines marriage as “a civil contract between one man and one woman” and states that “no marriage shall be contracted…between parties of the same gender.”
Title 6 of Chickasaw tribal law states that “a marriage between persons of the same gender performed in any jurisdiction shall not be recognized as valid and binding in the Chickasaw Nation.” However, the law notes that it does not prohibit “members of the same sex from entering written contracts” with one another.
Many other tribes remain neutral, AP reports, neither taking steps to officially recognize gay marriage nor changing the wording of their marriage laws to include or preclude recognition of same-sex couples.
However, the legal language for some of these neutral tribes makes reference to heterosexual couples by use of such phrases as “husband and wife,” “a man and a woman,” and “unmarried male and…unmarried female.”
For example, the Northern Cheyenne Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act defines marriage as “a personal relationship between a man and a woman arising out of a civil contract to which the consent of the parties is essential,” in which spouses “take each other as husband and wife.”
To date, such laws have not been applied to same-sex couples.
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The question, at this point, is whether homosexual rights bullies will eventually set their sites on these Native American tribes as they have done to various Christian businesses around the nation.It is doubtful such challenges could be successful. But, that may not stop these extremist radicals from trying to foist their “gender confusion” onto Native Americans as well.
Native Americans have endured far worse in their past and survived. They will probably overcome this threat to their way of life as well.

 

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Where do you think man gets his morals & laws from?

As for gambling, is there a difference between investing money in football & the stock market? I don't see one.......

So its okay to play the stock market & go to church but we cantbbet on sports & do the same?

Just because people have morals that don't fit your life style, doesn't mean you can throw stones back at them........

Do I agree in the gay marriage law? No I don't......but that doesn't mean that others dont.

If it wasn't for religion, there wouldn't be any law abiding citizens......& before you spout off some moronic statement about your not religious but follow the law......here's the deal.

You were taught your to follow & be a law abiding citizen by your parents, & they were taught the same, etc....etc.....going way back to where they were taught the same coming from religion.

Some of our laws that we as humans must follow come from the 10 commandments......can you go out to kill someone & not get in trouble? Can you steal? You can do both & get away with it, but there are laws we follow as humans......now whether you want to believe in God is up to you, but you still have to follow the laws we have in society, & they basically all come from religion......& so do our morals.

Now just because someone drinks avdew beers &/or gambles a bit, that doesn't remove them from not being able to give their opinion on gay marriage......

None of us are perfect, none even close, but when society breaks down morally, & is corrupted from within, its all down hill from there.......go back & study the past, & you will find the answers to where we're going.

Humans never learn & will always repeat the same sh*t........


Nicely said
 

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What's the point to having states and state governments if the feds just step in and overrule? Pretty sure things were going just fine letting the states dictate what's cool and not cool. The beltway has no grasp on what the people in Idaho, Wyoming, Alabama etc want..might as well be another planet. The states actually have some grasp on there state..the beltway does not.
 

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All part of a big plan. And we will not like it. Govt knows what it is doing and planning
 

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Morality comes from empathy. I don't kill people or steal from them because I don't want any of that in return. To think that morality is based on the fear of eternal damnation sounds like a control tactic.
 

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If it wasn't for religion, there wouldn't be any law abiding citizens.

I consider myself religious in the sense that you imply it in this thread but your above comment is beyond ridiculous .
 

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All comes down to what u believe. All thru the bible u see how much a sin it is. God even declares will not enter the gates of heaven so if u believe in God and the bible then u feel this is America turning its back on God. Or at least the powers that be in office right now. And we could argue all day back and forth if God is real so again I say it's ur beliefs and how u look upon.
 

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