Manning is the best vs inferior competition and throws TDs against teams that have given up. He never does well against good defenses. Losing record in playoffs, similar to never beating Florida in college, might make him the best Regular season Qb. A good Qb with all those receivers would have scored more than 8 points and not let his team get trashed like that. I'm sure his first 6 td game against Jacksonville next season will put him back as the greatest ever.
lets not forget in his Super Bowl winning run he had 4 TDs and 7 interceptions that postseason. He's the best against mediocre competition.
lets not forget in his Super Bowl winning run he had 4 TDs and 7 interceptions that postseason. He's the best against mediocre competition.
Marino for me in the top 5. Garbage defense, half ass receivers (sorry clayton and duper was no rice, Irvin, Largent, moss etc., etc.) After that he had a washed up Fryer, Jackson, Green, Barnett etc. On top of this never had a running game so had to throw every down which defenses played the pass every game. After putting up 45 points a game he still lost. Finally Jimmy Johnson tied him down or his records would have been way up there. Watching Marino's accuracy, timing and release was second to none.
Nonetheless most of who you have on the list I can't argue with
I think manning wins another SB before retirement. He's just gotta be the underdog coming into it that happens? He's winning it without a doubt no matter how phenomenal a defense would be playing against him. Top D vs Top O SBs, D is 9-2. Last top O team to win vs a top D was 99 rams. If anyone could pull it off? Manning would. And shut ppl up a bit. But as I said, he's gotta go into it as a dog with the public on the other side.
i wouldn't be surprised to see a den vs SF SB. Last time played, SF blew den out the water. I bet it'd turn some heads this time around. Lol
i wouldn't be surprised to see a den vs SF SB. Last time played, SF blew den out the water. I bet it'd turn some heads this time around. Lol
The NFL consists of 32 teams......one of them (only) will win the Super-Bowl each year (brilliant deduction).
The fact is, the NFL puts-on quite a show year-in and year-out.....great stagecraft and lighting, beautiful customs, excellent acting (some of the time). All of this results in a lot of money being made......for the owners/entrepreneurs.
The fact is, the NFL puts-on quite a show year-in and year-out.....great stagecraft and lighting, beautiful customs, excellent acting (some of the time). All of this results in a lot of money being made......for the owners/entrepreneurs.
wow but excuse me you all forget other great QB's who won multilple Supers Start with Packers Great Bart Starr , Toss in Steelers 4 time champion Terry Bradshaw Then we have Cowboys TWO Great hofers Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman
Peyton i would rate in top 5 currently but truly the biggest loser in two superbowls - 5 1/2 pts loss TO Saints 31-17 THEN the worst ever - 2 1/2 points choke job (not a choke job just a phony pony team)43-8 loss for a whopping margin total loss of 49 points Brady lost two bowls by 7 points Even Ben Rothlisburger only lost by 6 points ...I also will add in current top QB's Eli Manning who is 2-0 in superbowls.
Me tinks your QB list seriously needs to be updated when talking about all time HOFERS Championship QB's ooooo yes forgot Jim Plunkett plus the Other Raiders QB and even Jim Kelly 4 time loser a record getting to the bowl 4 straight years. Now excuse Moi while i have Lunch and a fine Glass of Wine cheersgif
Peyton i would rate in top 5 currently but truly the biggest loser in two superbowls - 5 1/2 pts loss TO Saints 31-17 THEN the worst ever - 2 1/2 points choke job (not a choke job just a phony pony team)43-8 loss for a whopping margin total loss of 49 points Brady lost two bowls by 7 points Even Ben Rothlisburger only lost by 6 points ...I also will add in current top QB's Eli Manning who is 2-0 in superbowls.
Me tinks your QB list seriously needs to be updated when talking about all time HOFERS Championship QB's ooooo yes forgot Jim Plunkett plus the Other Raiders QB and even Jim Kelly 4 time loser a record getting to the bowl 4 straight years. Now excuse Moi while i have Lunch and a fine Glass of Wine cheersgif
You guys make good points, but the fact of the matter is that the Denver Broncos are a 7-9 team most likely without Peyton Manning. If you can name one QB who can walk onto a team and make them 6 games better won/loss I'd like to hear that argument. I guess maybe Favre did something close, but even Montana was not as good when he went to KC.
1. manning
2. favre
the 2 most overrated QB'S in NFL history, possibly players at any position. playoff no shows except favre's SB when he played well and had the best roster in the league. the rest of his playoff career was a disaster. manning has never had a good postseason, even when he got a ring.
to use stats against older QB's is idiotic. totally different game. manning can throw touchdowns at will against the raiders to set records, but isn't even average against a good physical defense. please end this debate. just defending these guys proves you know nothing about football.
A SB has nothing to do with goat. That’s team oriented. Brady can’t do jack fuck if he was placed on the Browns. Goat would be QB stats alone. And he doesn’t own but 2 of them. Without the Pats Brady is an above avg passer. Brees is more accurate. Brady never played on more than one team to say he’d be successful on another. He just has Kraft at the helm getting the pulls to bring his team to more championships and SBs. Moot point.
Every person who bases a QB’s greatness solely on SB rings is a fucking douchebag. By that rationale, Trent Dilfer is better than Marino. Furthermore, all the guys that get their balls all tied up in a knot over who is the best, you’re all douchebags too. I know this, and it’s a fact, Drew Brees is the most accurate passer ever. He’s also thrown for the most yards. I also know that Tom Brady is one of the greatest ever, gets rid of the ball, and like his coach, will win at all costs. Even if that includes being a cheating, lying piece of Shit. And Peyton is a pretty damn good QB, who always deserves to be in the conversation. Now all of you bitches go back to having sex with your mothers
There's a reason Patriots win 60% ATS in the Brady / Belichick era, I have named it
Patriots Derangement Syndrome
People inflicted by such just don't think rationally when it comes to the New England Patriots, some of them are usually pretty smart too
Patriots Derangement Syndrome
People inflicted by such just don't think rationally when it comes to the New England Patriots, some of them are usually pretty smart too
Tin foil? I'm a realist. And NFL is NOT real or should I say the games are not real. Contradicting that wrestling sucks to you, but the NFL is completely different. Blame my losses? I had Saints ML 10*, Rams 3.5 8* which SHOULD have cashed on both ends! Thats what I'd call fuckery! But your dumbass is stuck up Bradys ass like a kid looking up to his childhood zero. I wouldn't exactly be touting love for Brady.
Fun fact: As a kid? I grew up liking the 49ers with Montana. That was MY team! Until Steve young left after 1994 SB win. I then switched to Saints fan and watched the bullshit unfold before my eyes. Then when I began to gamble? It became clear as day that the NFL is a complete dramafied show. That is wasn't real. Everyone wants to laugh at the fat kid crying cause wrestling isn't real. But boy dont you dare say NFL isn't real! LOL
I had the Saints too, only difference is I take my loss like a man. The ref missed a call. You think the league didn't want Brady/Brees or Mahomes/Brees? Like they give a shit they have a cash cow where 100 million gonna watch it regardless.
I poked fun at you being a conspiracy theorists, then you follow it up with more non-sense about the fake NFL. Then you call me the dumb one? OK
Weren't you the one that said if the Pats win another SB with Brady that you'd chop your dick off?? And you are calling me dumb?? Classic
I poked fun at you being a conspiracy theorists, then you follow it up with more non-sense about the fake NFL. Then you call me the dumb one? OK
Weren't you the one that said if the Pats win another SB with Brady that you'd chop your dick off?? And you are calling me dumb?? Classic
