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Do we make such resolutions for Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc?
This resolution was about politics. Ron Paul supports the Iranian people and is against all oppressive governments but doesn't think it's our business to get involved in every country where oppression occurs..


To top it all off Ron Paul voted no on the support for Iran bill
 

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Do we make such resolutions for Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc?
This resolution was about politics. Ron Paul supports the Iranian people and is against all oppressive governments but doesn't think it's our business to get involved in every country where oppression occurs..

I 100% agree, Saudi Arabia is one of the most oppressive regimes in the middle east.

Saudi Arabia is one of the reasons the US has no credibility when nudging China to make changes to their support and dealings withthe African dictators.
 

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You're an idiot MJ, change has to come from within.
Other than aiding the flow of information there is nothing else the the U.S. government should be doing at this time.

Your opinion is flat out wrong.

I'll smile and make note that Obama now agrees with me as well...but it took him a couple of days to catch on.

You guys should be thanking me for the heads up that I provide here...days in advance of presidential action. :103631605


Obama calls on Iran to 'stop all violent and unjust actions'
- Ben Smith - POLITICO.com (20 June 2009)
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensm...n_to_stop_all_violent_and_unjust_actions.html
 

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The same stereotypes that elected Obama are the one that are stirring things up in Iran. Students, intellectuals and the utopian thinkers. Funny stuff.
 

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The same stereotypes that elected Obama are the one that are stirring things up in Iran. Students, intellectuals and the utopian thinkers. Funny stuff.


Those people are who you think are your enemy?
 

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It's really sad...in their time of need our President just turns his back on them. :>(



Monday, June 22, 2009
Iranian Hero & Leading Activist Ahmad Batebi On Obama: "His Lack of Response Will Not Be Regarded Kindly" (Audio-Video)


Courageous Iranian student activist Ahmad Betebi was sentenced to death by the evil regime in Iran after the student protests of 1999. He was severely tortured for years in the notorious Evin Prison in Iran. Last year Ahmad Batebi arrived safely in the United States.

During a break from prison, Batebi fled Iran traveling through a free Iraq to Austria and finally arriving in Washington DC.

NINE years ago, Ahmad Batebi appeared on the cover of The Economist. This photo made Batebi famous. It also made him a target of the regime.
After his escape from the regime in 2008 The Economist followed up on their previous story with a Batebi interview in July 2008.

Tonight I had the great honor of interviewing one of the great Iranians of our time, Ahmad Batebi. The interview took 30 minutes. I broke it down into 4 clips. They are all posted below.
Gateway Pundit: Iranian Hero & Leading Activist Ahmad Batebi On Obama: "His Lack of Response Will Not Be Regarded Kindly" (Audio-Video) (22 June 2009)
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/iranian-hero-leading-activist-ahmad.html
 

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Batebi doesn't have to worry too long. Within the next eight years there will be a new American President and perhaps that one will be more willing to set aside his responsibilities to the American people who elected him and then focus his attention on the demands and needs of a subsection population for another country such as Batebi's Iran.
 

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Batebi doesn't have to worry too long. Within the next eight years there will be a new American President and perhaps that one will be more willing to set aside his responsibilities to the American people who elected him and then focus his attention on the demands and needs of a subsection population for another country such as Batebi's Iran.
Unless, of course, Obama changes the term limits, as so many thought Bush would do.
 

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It would certainly be fascinating to observe if President Obama and/or his supporters were able to muster sufficient headway to amend the US Constitution on that matter, but I'm not holding my breath.

As for those who "thought Bush might change the term limits", they're either ignorant of how rarely the US Constitution is amended, or they're civic morons or they're (most likely) both.
 

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I think we should help the Iranian people with their revolution cause they are nice people and their government is treating them badly.

Their Government beats the people, rapes the women, kills the people they don't like and they give them little food to eat. Also, they get no freedoms.

So, I say we should go over their and chase their Government away and put the Iranian people in change. Obama needs to find his political balls.

This is what I think about this here matter.

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Dispatches from the Iranian cyberfront
June 22nd, 2009

I’ve spent the last seventeen hours living inside a cyberpunk novel. A libertarian cyberpunk novel. It’s been a weird and awesome experience.

Within an hour after I received a plea for help from Iran, a regular commenter on this blog recruited me into a hacker network that has been forming to support the democratic Iranian revolutionaries by providing them with proxy servers, Tor anonymizers, and any other technologies needed
for them to communicate over channels the Iranian regime cannot censor or control.

I know this network has contacts on the ground among the revolutionaries. I don’t know who they
are, and don’t want to know. Most of the other network members are just names on an IRC channel. But we’re putting together a stealth network at amazing speed. Nothing matters as much as the courage and determination of the Iranians on the ground, but we aim to make a difference in our own way and we have the tools to do it.

This disorganization has only been forming for a very short time. It doesn’t really have leaders. It didn’t have even a name when I joined it, though I’ve given it one that looks like it might stick. Until and unless somebody else steps up to the job, I’m our public contact.

This role carries a non-zero risk that I will be targeted for assassination, or interrogation followed by execution, by agents of the Iranian regime - we’ve had more than one death threat against core members already. I take this risk with eyes open because we need somebody to be public, and I know I’ve already been a jihadi target since 2006; at least I can keep some other poor bastard out of the line of fire. I now expect to remain continuously armed for the duration of the Iranian crisis.

Rostam, this is how I’m answering your plea. We’ll do what we can for your people. For freedom.

To learn more about NedaNet and how you can help, go here.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096
 

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A prominent example of how relatively easy it is for tech savvy internet users to quickly (just a few days here) circumvent attempts by government - or any other entity - to take over and/or shut down access to the worldwide web.
 

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It would certainly be fascinating to observe if President Obama and/or his supporters were able to muster sufficient headway to amend the US Constitution on that matter, but I'm not holding my breath.

As for those who "thought Bush might change the term limits", they're either ignorant of how rarely the US Constitution is amended, or they're civic morons or they're (most likely) both.
C'mon. They were Liberals. No offense intended, of course.:laugh:
 

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We as a country need to do whatever possible to remove this illegitimate government from Iran. It is clear that Iranians do not hate America....just their government because America stands for freedom which they deny their people in favor of control. I for one am very tired of seeing the way religious leaders use their positions of reverence to wield power and domination over their people. Religion and government should never be mixed. Today an Iranian student in a phone call to CNN pleaded for the Western World including America to do whatever they can to remove this regime from power in Iran. His suggestion was to stop selling them gasoline which they are heavy importers of. We as a country do not want Iran's government to have nuclear weapons because they are really like Hitler and will not hesitate to use them regardless of the copnsequences. I believe now may be the time with a large portion of the Iranian people ready to accept a regime change for us and other countries that are our allies to remove the government in Iran by force and with the backing of the Iranian people.
 

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