Here’s What Happened After ‘Black Lives Matter’ Protester Underwent Use of Force Scenarios With Cops

[MikeB]

Do you think a white 12 year old boy gets shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving?

I don't think it was 2 seconds.

The boy was ordered to put his hands in the air but instead reached for the gun in his waist band.

 

[Enfuego]

Pretty simple.

Don't point a fake gun at people in a park. Don't point a fake gun at a cop that tells you to put your hands up.

But once again, we blame the cop for a situation perpetuated by a criminal.

 

[Acebb]

^ You have .03 tenths of a second to make this decision.

 

[quantumleap]

Appreciate any person who can change their attitudes when given the facts. Rare in today's world. Every police department in every major city in America should invite their local media outlets and black leaders for "real life" simulated scenarios that police face everyday. At the very least, it might generate more respect for the tough job that police have.

I agree. There are good examples of cops behaving badly, sometimes very badly. But not all cops should be painted with a broad brush.

This community organizer is paraded out on local TV and radio whenever there is a racial incident and he's always seen as taking the side of the "victim". I was afraid he was headed on his way to being the next Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. I'm glad to see he had a chance to see how things can go.

 

[Mr_Mark]

I agree. There are good examples of cops behaving badly, sometimes very badly. But not all cops should be painted with a broad brush.

This community organizer is paraded out on local TV and radio whenever there is a racial incident and he's always seen as taking the side of the "victim". I was afraid he was headed on his way to being the next Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. I'm glad to see he had a chance to see how things can go.

I agree. Too many people are quick to generalize when making opinions. Not all black people are criminals, not all welfare recipients are lazy, not cops are bad, not all white people are racist, not all muslims are violent terrorist, not all mexicans are illegal, etc. Just too many idiots in this world.

 

[JohnnyMac]

I don't think it was 2 seconds.

The boy was ordered to put his hands in the air but instead reached for the gun in his waist band.

Watch the video, it's widely available. It is literally 2 seconds after he gets there.

 

[JohnnyMac]

So, your whole argument pretty much hinges upon "why did the cop park 20 feet from a person with a gun?"

I wasn't in the cruiser, I can't answer that. I would think maybe he didn't see him right away with the weapon maybe. Perhaps he thought he was at a safe distance with using the cruiser as a shield maybe. Perhaps he pulled up a little further away and the person with the weapon (turns out it was a replica), came towards the Officer......I don't know....

In the Officers mind though, he was going to a call of a person with a gun in a park where there are innocent people around including children. That takes priority.

How did he not see the boy? They obviously saw him because they drove right up to where he was.

 

[JohnnyMac]

^ You have .03 tenths of a second to make this decision.

Right. Don't drive up to this close. Start a little further back when you arrive.

 

[MikeB]

How did he not see the boy? They obviously saw him because they drove right up to where he was.

I gave three possible scenarios AFTER I said I wasn't there and I don't know what happened......you jumped on the one possibility that you have a possible retort to....

 

[JohnnyMac]

I gave three possible scenarios AFTER I said I wasn't there and I don't know what happened......you jumped on the one possibility that you have a possible retort to....

Have you watched the video yet? And if not, why are you commenting?

 

[MikeB]

Have you watched the video yet? And if not, why are you commenting?

Something tells me you weren't there either.

Say what you want, but if the kid didn't commit a series of errors, he would be alive.

It's always somebody else's fault......always....

 

[JohnnyMac]

Something tells me you weren't there either.

Say what you want, but if the kid didn't commit a series of errors, he would be alive.

It's always somebody else's fault......always....

You are blaming this on a 12 year old boy and his decision making?

You obviously are not a parent and/or have very little experience with children, which means you lack the basic understanding of how children behave. We, as a society, impose different standards on the behavior of children, which you overlook in your comment.

We also impose a higher level of responsibility on our police officers, because we pay them and train them to properly react to these situations, which you also ignore in your comments.

 

[FairWarning]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/justice/cleveland-police-shooting/

The 3rd video down shows the kid pointing the gun at pedestrians.

maybe we should ask why these sort of toys are allowed? The orange safety cap was off.

 

[MikeB]

You are blaming this on a 12 year old boy and his decision making?

You obviously are not a parent and/or have very little experience with children, which means you lack the basic understanding of how children behave. We, as a society, impose different standards on the behavior of children, which you overlook in your comment.

We also impose a higher level of responsibility on our police officers, because we pay them and train them to properly react to these situations, which you also ignore in your comments.

What if the gun was real?

 

[JohnnyMac]

What if the gun was real?

Well, it wasn't, and 911 was told it was "probably fake." But, police are fucking trained to handle this type of thing. Shooting within 2 seconds is improper, especially with a 12 year old involved.

 

[MikeB]

Well, it wasn't, and 911 was told it was "probably fake." But, police are fucking trained to handle this type of thing. Shooting within 2 seconds is improper, especially with a 12 year old involved.

It's not the Officers fault he wasn't told the gun was probably fake.

So I ask again, if the gun was real do you think it was a justified shooting?

 

[JohnnyMac]

It's not the Officers fault he wasn't told the gun was probably fake.

So I ask again, if the gun was real do you think it was a justified shooting?

Of course, not. But there is much more to it just taking the shooting portion of it and looking at just that in a vacuum.

 

[Enfuego]

You are blaming this on a 12 year old boy and his decision making?

You obviously are not a parent and/or have very little experience with children, which means you lack the basic understanding of how children behave. We, as a society, impose different standards on the behavior of children, which you overlook in your comment.

We also impose a higher level of responsibility on our police officers, because we pay them and train them to properly react to these situations, which you also ignore in your comments.

Uh yes, and his parents. A 12-year-old is almost a freshman in HS. He knew what he was doing was wrong.

 

[Enfuego]

Very easy, don't point a gun at people and don't get killed.

Quit making excuses for the criminal.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Uh yes, and his parents. A 12-year-old is almost a freshman in HS. He knew what he was doing was wrong.

A 12 year old is a 6th grader.