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So the Republicans voted to repeal ACA 57 when their vote was meaningless, but when they had the chance to actually vote to repeal it, while controlling all 3 branches, with an idiot POTUS who made repeal and replace his day 1 initiative, who "makes the best deals" they couldn't do it. No surprise at all. Get used to it America:
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It was a dog shit bill. Only a little better than the bigger pile of dog shit AKA Obamacare.

I would just let it crash and burn. Let the Dims own that.

Move on to tax reform, SCOTUS picks, building the wall, and infrastructure.
 
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Building the wall has a less chance of happening than this did. Building the wall aint happening. If yall haven't realized Trump breaks a lot of promises....you will sooner or later
 

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Not a Trump supporter but in his defense, 2 months to put together a new health care model that satisfies the majority is an impossible task.
 

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Donald Trump says Obamacare repeal and replacement to come with confirmation of Price as HHS chief

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Getting to see Donald Trump's replacement plan for Obamacare — and how many people it will cover — comes with a "Price."
President-elect Trump on Wednesday said a "repeal-and-replace" plan for Obamacare would be submitted as soon as the Senate approves his nominee, Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., for secretary of the U.S. Health and Human Services Department.
"It will be essentially simultaneously," Trump said. "The same day or the same week ... could be the same hour."



Price's confirmation hearing in the Senate is scheduled for Jan. 18.
An Associated Press story earlier Wednesday noted that Price faces calls for investigation of whether stock trades he made on health-care companies were guided by insider knowledge he had as a result of being a congressman. Trump's transition team has denied any wrongdoing by Price.

At a news conference in New York on Wednesday, Trump did not answer a reporter's question about whether his replacement plan for Obamacare would cover the same number of people — 20 million or so — who gained insurance under the health-care law.
However, Trump did say that "you're going to be very proud of what" will be proposed as a replacement for the Affordable Care Act.
Americans will have "health care that is far less expensive and far better," Trump said at his first post-election news conference, which was held at Trump Tower.

Trump's promise for a quick repeal and replace of the ACA came a day after he told The New York Times of his intention for such a two-step on Obamacare.
But that promise of concurrent repeal and replace, in such a short time frame, is widely considered impossible to meet.

That's because while Republicans, who have 52 votes in the Senate, need only 50 votes to repeal Obamacare, they would need 60 votes to overcome a likely filibuster for any replacement of the landmark health-care law. To reach 60 votes, eight or more Democrats would need to agree to vote for a replacement, which is unlikely given that party's current position opposing the repeal of the ACA.
Meanwhile, a growing number of Republicans have voiced opposition to the idea of repealing the law without having a replacement plan on deck.
Potentially complicating matters further for the GOP was news Tuesday that enrollment in Obamacare plans so far this sign-up season is outpacing the rate seen at the same time last season. And the Council of Economic Advisers said that big price hikes for key Obamacare health plans in 2017 seem to be a one-time correction.
Both developments go against Republican arguments that Obamacare is doomed to failure.
Already, Republicans were leery about committing verbally to promises to keep the same number of people covered under a replacement as have gained insurance from the ACA.
Obamacare has driven down the nation's uninsured rate to record levels in three ways: expanding Medicaid to more poor adults; offering subsidies for low- and moderate-income people to buy individual health plans; and letting adults under age 26 be covered by their parents' plans. The ACA also mandates that nearly all Americans have health coverage or pay a fine.
But Trump said Wednesday that there is an urgent need to get rid of Obamacare.
"Obamacare is a complete and total disaster," Trump said. "It's imploding as we sit."
He said that people who buy Obamacare plans are being strained by rising premiums and sky-high deductibles.
"And '17 is going to be the bad year, it's going to be catastrophic," Trump said.

The president-elect said he and his fellow Republicans were doing Democrats a "tremendous service" by killing the law passed under their leader, President Barack Obama — and suggested the GOP could actually get a better replacement plan passed if they allowed the law to collapse further.



"Frankly, we could sit back, and it was a thought from a political standpoint, but it wasn't going to be fair to the people," Trump said.
"We could sit back and watch, and wait, and criticize, and we could be a Chuck Schumer," Trump said, referring to the Democratic Senate majority leader who has warned Republicans they will be responsible politically for any replacement plan. "And people would come, they would come begging us, 'Please, we have to do something about Obamacare.'"
"We don't want to own it politically, they own it right now," Trump said of the Democrats.
"So the easiest thing would be to let it implode in '17, and believe me we'd get pretty much whatever we want but it would take a long time," Trump said.

"Obamacare's the Democrats' problem," he said. "We're going to take the problem off the shelves for them."


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Couldn't be any worse than the tripling of my buddies on Obamacare Some paid $500 and was uped to $1500.
 

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https://thinkprogress.org/trump-promised-to-repeal-obamacare-many-times-ab9500dad31e#.uefbyvvci

68 times Trump promised to repeal Obamacare


The White House says it’s already moving on.




President Donald Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price arrive on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, March 21, 2017, to rally support for the Republican health care overhaul. CREDIT: AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite
Donald Trump promised to repeal Obamacare at least 68 times, but after the House’s failure on Friday to even vote on its replacement bill, the American Health Care Act of 2017, the White House’s position is that Republicans are “stuck” with Obamacare.
As a candidate, president-elect, and president, Trump has repeatedly pointed to the repeal of Obamacare as a top priority and a key reason he wanted to be president.
However, as the reality of actually repealing the increasingly-popular law set in, along with the difficulty of actually operating the federal government and working with a congressional majority made up of the different factions of the Republican party, the White House made an odd ultimatum.
Trump made a lot of promises about what he will do as president. We’ve documented 663 of them.


The people who elected Trump expect him to come through.

In a closed-door meeting with the House GOP, White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney personally delivered Trump’s ultimatum, according to reporting from the Wall Street Journal and CNN: pass the bill on Friday, or Republicans will be “stuck with Obamacare.” Trump would move on to other agenda items, such as tax reform.
Republican backers of the bill made undemocratic, unscheduled, major changes to the legislation in order to curry support from far-right members. House Speaker Paul Ryan has fought back against the wave of blame he has received for the bill’s dim prospects by arguing that he wrote the bill with Trump and Senate committees.
Asked during the White House daily press briefing if Trump was comfortable with Obamacare continuing if the AHCA vote failed, given his campaign promises to repeal, Press Secretary Sean Spicer cut in: “No! He’s not! Of course he’s not.”


“I’m not even sure where to start with that. No, he’s not. Which is why he’s literally put as much effort as he has into repealing this.”
On Thursday, Trump spent a portion of his day meeting with truckers and pretending to drive a semi on the White House lawn, earning ridicule and satire. He has also spent seven weekends in his palatial resorts, sometimes playing golf.
Spicer continued: “But he’s made it clear that this is our moment, this is our opportunity to do it. But it is now up to members to make that decision, whether or not they want to be part of this effort to repeal Obamacare.”
Desperate to pass Trumpcare, Ryan and Trump agree to punish poor people even more


Ryan, Trump woo fringe by making cruel bill crueler.
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Later, Spicer was asked about a political cost to the bill collapsing, and Spicer replied that there would be a political cost to letting the process drag on.
One of the difficulties Trump and congressional Republicans have encountered in their drive to repeal Obamacare is that there was no clear replacement alternative that was revealed to the public.
Here is a list of 68 times Trump promised to repeal Obamacare:
“So, just to sum up, I would do various things very quickly. I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare.” [New York, NY, 6/15/15]
“We have to repeal Obamacare, and it can be — and — and it can be replaced with something much better for everybody. Let it be for everybody. But much better and much less expensive for people and for the government. And we can do it.” [New York, NY, 6/15/15]
“Repeal and replace with something terrific…Other than that, it’s private. You will get great plans, you will have great competition, everything else. Now, at the lower end, where people have no money, I want to try and help those people. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. But I want to try and help those people, so they can also can — now, it’s not going to be like a good plan. It’s not going to be like the finest plan that somebody that’s made some money or has a good living can do.” [CNN, 7/29/15]
“We get rid of Obamacare and we have a great life all together.” [GOP debate, Los Angeles, CA, 9/16/15]
“We’re going to end, terminate, repeal Obamacare and replace it with something really, really great that works. That works.” [New Hampshire, 9/17/15]
“We are going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something much better, much better much better.” [Waterloo, IA, 10/7/15]
“We’re gonna repeal Obamacare.” [Las Vegas, NV, 10/8/15]
“We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare which is a disaster.” [Norcross, GA, 10/10/15]
“We’re going to terminate Obamacare. We’re going to terminate it, it’s going to be terminated, it’s going to be replaced with something much better and something much less expensive for you and for the country.” [Burlington, IA, 10/21/15]
“Someone said what’s the first thing you’re going to do? Well we’re going to work immediately on repealing Obamacare.” [Sioux City, IA, 10/27/15]
“I would work immediately on Obamacare repeal and replace, and we would do something terrific there.” [FOX, 11/3/15]
“… the repeal of Obamacare and replacing it with something so much better. So we will repeal.” [Aiken, SC, 12/12/15]
“Our health care is a horror show. Obamacare, we’re going to repeal it and replace it.” [North Charleston, SC, 1/14/16]


“Everybody in here, many of you know me, from day one I’ve been talking about we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare from day one, we’re going to do it. If you remember, so important, from day one I’ve been saying, repeal and replace Obamacare.” [Milford, NH, 2/2/16]


“I think Obamacare is a very big issue. I see it, we are going to repeal it or replace it with something much better and much less expensive. We have a lot of different things we are going to do.” [FOX, 2/10/16]
“We’re going to absolutely terminate and repeal — we’re going to repeal ‘Obamacare.’ Has to be repealed.” [FOX, 2/11/15]
“But he’ll take something like Obamacare where I’m totally and absolutely, you know, going to repeal and replace Obamacare from its inception and he’ll say that I love Obamacare, which is so ridiculous.” [CNN, 2/15/16]


“Look, I want — we’re going to — we’re going to repeal and — and replace Obamacare. Obamacare is a total and complete disaster. It’s going to be gone. We’re going to come up with a great health care plan, whether it’s health care savings accounts, we have a lot of different things.” [West Palm Beach, FL, 2/21/16]
“We’re going to win with Obamacare — we’re getting rid of it, we’re repealing, it replacing it.” [Columbus, OH, 3/1/16]


“We are going to get rid of Obamacare and repeal it and replace it.” [Portland, ME, 3/3/16]
“Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.” [Trump campaign website, 3/3/16]
“We are going to get rid of a lot of things. We are getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it. OK?” [Orlando, FL, 3/5/16]
“On health care where we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare…” [GOP debate, Jupiter, FL, 3/8/16]
“We have discussed repealing and replacing Obamacare. It is going to happen.” [Fayetteville, NC, 3/9/16]
“We can’t have good health care. Obamacare is a disaster. Got to be repealed and replaced.” [Fox News, 3/11/16]
“We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare and we are going to win with its replacement.” [Dayton, OH, 3/12/16]
“We’re going to repeal and replace Obama care. It’s going to be repealed and replaced.”[Kansas City, MO, 3/12/16]
“We are gonna lead on health care, we are gonna get rid of Obamacare, repeal and replace.” [West Chester, OH, 3/13/16]
“Obamacare is a disaster. It will be repealed and replaced as sure as you’re sitting there. Repealed and replaced. Thank you. And we will have alternatives that will be so good, that’s so much less expensive. So much better. You will actually be able to keep your doctor and to have your plan.” [Tampa, FL, 3/14/16]
“And I have to tell you, health care, Obamacare is a disaster. We’re gonna repeal and replace it. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it.” [Hickory, NC, 3/14/16]
“We’re repealing and replacing Obamacare that I can tell you.” [Youngstown, OH, 3/14/16]
“We’re gonna terminate Obamacare. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it with great health care for far less money. That’s gonna happen. That is going to happen.” [Fountain Hills, AZ, 3/19/16]
“HANNITY: You said to me you will repeal “Obama care” and replace it with health care savings accounts. TRUMP: Correct.” [Fox News, 3/21/16]
“So we’re gonna get efficiency in government but we’re gonna end Obamacare. We’re gonna replace it with something so much better and so much less expensive.” [Janesville, WI, 3/29/16]
“Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced.” [Appleton, WI, 3/30/16]
“We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare which is a total catastrophe. You are going to have great health insurance.” [Milwaukee, WI, 4/4/16]
“Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced with something much less expensive that works much better.” [CNN, 5/14/16]
“We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare, which is a disaster.” [Charleston, WV, 5/5/16]
“HANNITY: You’re making a promise to balance the budget. You’re making a promise to build the wall. You made a promise you’re going to repeal ‘Obamacare’… TRUMP: A hundred percent.” [Fox News, 5/18/16]
“We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare.” [Lawrence Township, NJ, 5/19/16]
“Because we will terminate Obama care and replace it, believe me, with something good. Believe me. [Cheers and applause] Repeal and replace Obama care.” [San Diego, CA, 5/27/16]
“We’re gonna repeal and replace Obamacare with something great.” [Fresno, CA, 5/27/16]
“And by the way, we are going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Just remember that.” [New York, NY, 5/29/16]
“A lot of part timers because of Obamacare, which is a disaster, which we’re going to repeal and replace with something much better, and much less money.” [Fox News, 6/21/16]
“We will repeal and replace job killing Obamacare. It is a total disaster.” [New York, NY, 6/22/16]
“We will repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare. You will be able to choose your own doctor again.” [Acceptance speech in Cleveland, OH 7/21/16]


“We will repeal and replace the horrible disaster known as Obamacare.” [Manchester, NH, 8/25/16]


“On my first day in office, I am going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace, I just said it, Obamacare.” [Asheville, NC, 9/12/16]
“Also on my first day, I will ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Clive, OH, 9/13/16]
“Also on my first day i’m going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Canton, OH, 9/14/16]
“The 3.8 percent Obamacare tax on investment income will be repealed, as will the alternative minimum tax.” [Trump campaign website, 9/15/16]
“Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).” [Trump campaign website, 10/6/16]




“Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my administration. … The Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with health savings accounts. We can do that.” [Gettysburg, PA, 10/22/16]
“My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability.” [Sanford, FL, 10/25/16]


“When we win on November 8th and elect a Republican congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. Have to do it. I will ask Congress to convene a special session so we can repeal and replace, and it will be such an honor for me, for you, and for everybody in this country because Obamacare has to be replaced and we will do it and we will do it very, very quickly.” [Valley Forge, PA, 11/1/16]
 

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i think most will agree that Nancy Pelosi is one sorry bitch and is just plain evil
 

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I'm glad it didn't go to a vote. It was a shit bill. They need to sit down w/ some of the reasonable Dem's and some of the reasonable Freedom Caucus members (who are nothing but obstructionists, btw) and come up w/ something they can agree on. No one is going to like the whole thing, but there needs to be a (somewhat) happy medium.

I'm personally tired of Paul Ryan and think he's done absolutely nothing in 6+ years. He needs to get off his ass and start being a leader!

Nancy Pelosi, as much of a POS as she is, at least pushed through her parties BS when she was in charge.

6 years of GOP holding the House & Senate and nothing. It's shameful. Hell, at least put out a budget!
 
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I'm glad it didn't go to a vote. It was a shit bill. They need to sit down w/ some of the reasonable Dem's and some of the reasonable Freedom Caucus members (who are nothing but obstructionists, btw) and come up w/ something they can agree on. No one is going to like the whole thing, but there needs to be a (somewhat) happy medium.

I'm personally tired of Paul Ryan and think he's done absolutely nothing in 6+ years. He needs to get off his ass and start being a leader!

Nancy Pelosi, as much of a POS as she is, at least pushed through her parties BS when she was in charge.

6 years of GOP holding the House & Senate and nothing. It's shameful. Hell, at least put out a budget!



Real talk. They don't put the real true people in those positions. That hoe is 76 years old. Looks like she's 56. paul ryan is a sucker. Dude is a complete puppet out there, it's embarrassing.
 

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almost an impossible task to do in this short of amount of time.. with no Dems voting it in.. Let Obamacare burn to the ground... That would be the best thing that could happen for Trump...Demos will have to own it.. and not participating in the latest bill, they will have to eat crow...and explain why they have a dead horse on their own bill and not wanting to do something about it with a new bill...in the long run , this will be the best thing that could happen..Demos getting set up for a big fall here..
 

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Stupid bill never even made it to congressional floor for a vote. LOL! Dead On Arrival.
 

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Here's the funny thing. Obamacare won't get repealed. They'll never even bring up an alternative. They'll just kick the can down the road the next year until no one cares about it and it's no longer a topic. BANK IT.
 

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Building the wall has a less chance of happening than this did. Building the wall aint happening. If yall haven't realized Trump breaks a lot of promises....you will sooner or later

Just watching the shit show CONTINUE to unfold.
 

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Gorsuch won't get a single demo vote either.. and no reason for it..What does that tell you about those fucks acting like 5 year olds ?
 

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Building the wall has a less chance of happening than this did. Building the wall aint happening. If yall haven't realized Trump breaks a lot of promises....you will sooner or later

No promises have been broken yet.
 

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I'm glad it didn't go to a vote. It was a shit bill. They need to sit down w/ some of the reasonable Dem's and some of the reasonable Freedom Caucus members (who are nothing but obstructionists, btw) and come up w/ something they can agree on. No one is going to like the whole thing, but there needs to be a (somewhat) happy medium.

I'm personally tired of Paul Ryan and think he's done absolutely nothing in 6+ years. He needs to get off his ass and start being a leader!

Nancy Pelosi, as much of a POS as she is, at least pushed through her parties BS when she was in charge.

6 years of GOP holding the House & Senate and nothing. It's shameful. Hell, at least put out a budget!

Well said.
 

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almost an impossible task to do in this short of amount of time.. with no Dems voting it in.. Let Obamacare burn to the ground... That would be the best thing that could happen for Trump...Demos will have to own it.. and not participating in the latest bill, they will have to eat crow...and explain why they have a dead horse on their own bill and not wanting to do something about it with a new bill...in the long run , this will be the best thing that could happen..Demos getting set up for a big fall here..

uh no...the republicans RAN on gutting "Obamacare"...and they didn't deliver. Voters will not be happy
 

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