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" I sure would like to know what kind of jobs you have Sportsavant, Jackdee and barman where you feel drug use is a private matter and therefore none of your employer's concern."

i work in i.t., information technology, i am a script writer, and of course a gambler, besides the well thought out and elaborate points from barman, which i second, i would like to ask you why am i not entitled to drug test my employer as well, i mean having a coke head, and i ve had had a lot of those types, as an employer, or suspecting i have one, i should be entitled to drug test him and not suffer his mood swings, his manic mentality, irregular temperament and domineering predesposition. Or is it that might makes right, and since he or she are paying me they can subject me to any scrutiny they wish too, breaching my private life again and again with say email monitoring, office cameras etc. etc. while i as an individual am supposed to go through all that as a docile lamp.

Let's face it anyone who has been out and about, and done a few illegal drugs knows the exact situation with them, and it's not a mere matter of political correctness, most drugs are dealt with the permission of the power structures, or by the governments itself, their suppresion is the very lever of power. While higher echelons, such as upper middle classes, big $ execs, hollywood actors, politicians etc. can both buy and use their designer drugs freeely, the lower classes are being sold crack and other highly destabilizing drugs fabricated in say oh arizona, for the sole purposes of suppresion of will and class control.

If anyone wishes to respond to this post, i would at least expect them to have some rudimentary knowledge of the drug scene and it's machinations if you smoke or have smoked the occasional spliff, or done the occasional acid or shroom, with no insight or experience of cops, dealers and street drugs then there's no use.

I am not a drug user, well i drink more than i d like to, and smoke tobaco more than i should, but other than that i ve outgrown my pot years, although if it were legal i might exchange my nightly white russian for say some good, smooth sensi milia occasionaly, but i believe in freedom of drug use, and the filth and immense profits, as well as the political power exerted in the whole drugs issue, goes well beyond some puritan ethic on hair screening.
 

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Uncle MB, your concern at your own place of employment makes sense. But the vast majority of jobs that are drug tested outside D.O.T. regulations are not fraught with such risk.

The challenge is that when the accident happens at your job, it will do so whether or not your company drug tests. If someone is irresponsible enough to do those jobs while impaired, they are not likely to be put off by a fairly remote chance of a random test.

Meanwhile, responsible employees like you, who do NOT work while impaired, are required to provide a personal urine sample in lieu of personal testimony of, "No, I am not working today while impaired by drugs or alcohol". That seems rather insulting.

Oh, and per your other comment, you could be assured that I would not bring controlled substances onto your property, because if I chose to use such substances, I would not use your property to do it without your prior permission. To do otherwise would be irresponsible.
 

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Damn Jack...
that was a hell of a post...one which I will read again after I come down off these felix blotters
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But seriously very well thought out and very precise.
 

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i am on a terrible low right now man, i am coming down fast and hard, i am actually chewing on my damn hair follicles to get back on track again, lol.
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glad you liked the post.

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Must be the cost of testing as to why all companies do not utilize this method or the fact they would have many less employees.
 

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General,

One of the jobs where I currently work has a policy of fairness, if you can call it that. I've told them time and again the solution. They just don't want to talk to everyone. I don't know why. Even though they've left open the possibility of random drug screens, they're afraid of singling people out. I've offered to pilot the program for a year and to hand-pick an assistant to take over and I also guaranteed to root out 80% minimum of the abusers. Disadvantages would include: Losing trained people that already know our system and having to find others. Advantages: MY disability insurance would hopefully go down in 3 years. On average, we have 8% of our workforce out on disability.

I know for a fact that over half of those out are faking it, milking it or it was their own fault. That pisses me off to no end. Hell, work 6 months. Then I can be out on short-term disability for 3 months. Just before long-term kicks in, I'll come back for a week and then take my vacation for the rest of the year. It's happened more than once from what I understand. For some reason, though, they can't see the pattern.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> hy am i not entitled to drug test my employer as well, i mean having a coke head, and i ve had had a lot of those types, as an employer, or suspecting i have one, i should be entitled to drug test him and not suffer his mood swings, his manic mentality, irregular temperament and domineering predesposition. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jackdee,

I think that random drug tests should include everyone not just the underlings. As far as the domineering bosses go, most positions of leadership are filled by those domineering people because there are people that only listen to the strong opinions. If they respond to the nice approach, then it's OK. I have yet to work a job where there isn't at least one idiot that's lazy or won't listen without someone telling them how it's going to be.
 

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The GENERAL is pretty much on target with both observations.

Yes, the cost of drug testing for an employer of any size is very prohibitive, especially when compared to the number of people they would have to fire if everyone was tested.

Here's a not so 'secret': There are at least 20-30 million Americans who responibly use marijuana, which is about one in seven of those in the work force. It may even be a bit more, since surveys rely on honest replies and the risk of honestly admitting marijuana use outweighs honesty for many people.

We do know that between 35 and 40% of tech workers acknowledge using marijuana routinely.
They can admit it easier since they are harder to replace.

A rational thinking and more important, an educated employer will realize that the effects of marijuana dissipate within a 2-6 hours depending on amount used. But marijuana metabolites remain detectable for up to 30 days.

Therefore, detecting metabolites means there's about a 1-3% chance the positive result was triggered by use recent enough to even potentially present a workplace risk to either the employee or others. To terminate an employee based on such thin evidence they were a workplace danger would be foolish for most employers.

Of course, another friendly secret I can share is that an educated employer also knows that there are many, many jobs where a modest level of active THC in the bloodstream is an actual asset contributing to improved and more accurate performance of the job. The aforementioned tech field is one such place. It's common knowledge that many code writers and programmers perform better while using pot, since it can help increase focus.

On a related sports note, this provides us with a reasonable explanation for why such a high percentage of basketball players acknowledge using marijuana regularly and why their union will not approve regular testing for marijuana use.

Having a pot 'buzz' on can for many people sharply increase focus. The rim looks 'bigger' and 'brighter' for example. Additionally, many people of course report a reduction in aggression while under the influence. This could be an aid for athletes in a fast physical game which often triggers unneeded aggression and anger. Keeping 'cool' provides additional help for the player who might otherwise pop off and either receive a foul or just simply start playing worse due to the distraction of anger.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> " I sure would like to know what kind of jobs you have Sportsavant, Jackdee and barman where you feel drug use is a private matter and therefore none of your employer's concern."
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FYI, I am in High tech sales, Cellular, Internet & Digital Cable....Luckily I dont have to 'feel' that it is none of my employer's business becauz what I do on my own time IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. Of course we do have rules at the office about bringing drugs or using them at work...as do most organizations...But what I do when I go home at night is nobody's business but mine.

fwiw, I do not drink, I do not party, I pay my taxes like everyone else, I am a volunteer at the humane society...I am an active member of the community & I watch for trouble. I am a helpful neighboor...From time to time in the evening as I watch my favorite sporting event I will smoke a little weed in the privacy of my living room. Regardless of any laws It is nobody's business what I do there. Glad that the laws are moving in this direction in Canada.
 

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"i am actually chewing on my damn hair follicles to get back on track again, lol."

¡LOL!

*The young man(me) slowly clips his hair. Achieving a level of excitement and curiosity he hasn't seen since the time he was told one could smoke the resin out of the bowl*
 

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The only thing I can really say about the drug scene is this...
I've had many a family member and friend not only die but also ruin thier lives over drugs.
It's not for everybody and I don't endorse it
..I used to work with a guy who smoked ROCK YES ROCK on the regular and had 2 fulltime jobs pullin in over 110K \yr to support his siter's kids.(she died young and that was his promise to her). I could I tell him to stop? hell he is more productive than me?
I've passed my a college final trippin on cid cause education(edited dictation) wasn't challenging enough...How can another student tell me to stop?
Weak individuals will surcomb to anything and many times use drugs as an excuse and crutch(Yes I know many are physically addicted--god help them)
...but how many times have I seen people ruined by "love","money","power",and "success".. just as many times as I've seen them ruined by drugs.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 12345678:
The only thing I can really say about the drug scene is this...
I've had many a family member and friend not only die but also ruin thier lives over drugs.
It's not for everybody and I don't endorse it
..I used to work with a guy who smoked ROCK YES ROCK on the regular and had 2 fulltime jobs pullin in over 110K \yr to support his siter's kids.(she died young and that was his promise to her). I could I tell him to stop? hell he is more productive than me?
I've passed my a college final trippin on cid cause education(edited dictation) wasn't challenging enough...How can another student tell me to stop?
Weak individuals will surcomb to anything and many times use drugs as an excuse and crutch(Yes I know many are physically addicted--god help them)
...but how many times have I seen people ruined by "love","money","power",and "success".. just as many times as I've seen them ruined by drugs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just 3 weeks ago, I lost a friend to an OD, so I am in complete understanding of your message.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Borat Sagdiyev:
In my country they pull the hair from the testes section because it is illegal to have scissors. Have you seen what can happen when you run with them? They then send out these how you say in American.......short hairs, to Russia for inspection.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Rolling on the floor laughing my fat azz off. Means it was really funny
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