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Arson at California SUV dealership

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Earth Liberation Front
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Aug. 22 -- NBC’s Shellee Smith reports the FBI is looking into damage done to sports utility vehicles in California’s San Gabriel Valley as possible eco-terrorism.



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WEST COVINA, Calif., Aug. 22 — Fires destroyed dozens of SUVs and a warehouse at an auto dealership Friday, and vehicles there and at three other dealerships were spray-painted with slogans such as “Fat, Lazy Americans.”

“WITH ALL THE evidence ... it’s highly likely it’s an arson fire,” said Rick Genovese, fire marshal for West Covina, a Los Angeles suburb.
The radical group Earth Liberation Front issued an unsigned e-mail Friday calling the incidents “ELF actions,” and the FBI was investigating the dealership fire as domestic terrorism, Police Chief Frank Wills said.
The underground group has claimed responsibility for a slew of arson attacks against commercial entities that members say damage the environment. It is suspected in a multimillion-dollar arson fire Aug. 1 that destroyed a five-story apartment complex under construction in San Diego, though an ELF e-mail claimed the group had not been in contact with those responsible in that case.






• Los Angeles: Ecoterrorism suspected in dealership fire






The blazes at the Clippinger Chevrolet dealership broke out about 5 a.m. Friday. Flames destroyed about 20 vehicles, mostly Hummer H2s, which are luxury SUVs patterned after the military’s workhorse Humvee. Another 20 vehicles were badly damaged. A separate blaze caved in a warehouse roof.
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There were no reports of injuries, but damage was estimated at $1 million.
SUVs at dealerships in nearby cities of Arcadia, Duarte and Monrovia were also vandalized, though there were no other fires.
Among the slogans written on the sides and hoods of vehicles were “I (heart) Pollution” and “American Wastefullness.” “ELF” was written on at least one vehicle.
General Motors Corp. spokesman Brian Akre called the blaze a “reprehensible criminal act” and said the Detroit-based company, whose brands include Hummer and Chevrolet, was thankful that the fire didn’t result in injuries.
“If this was some kind of misguided attempt to make a political statement, those responsible should know that committing arson and putting property and people in danger is not the way to gain public support for their position,” Akre said.

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lander,

Did you know that "supposedly" the ELF are considered by the FBI to be the largest domestic "terrorist" threat?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by radiofreecostarica:
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Did you know that "supposedly" the ELF are considered by the FBI to be the largest domestic "terrorist" threat?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope. lol.
What a joke.
 

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This has nothing to do with me. I don't aprove of this type of behavior. I'm not a peace nik or a tree hugger.
 

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Fvucking bonehaeds. Burnings those SUV released 10x the amount of toxins into the air than the SUV's would have drving yuppies to the grocery store..
 

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Well I could go find a source (heard it on a TV interview with the local fire chief) I'm sure but you don't need a Ph.D. to realize that tons of burning plastic, tires, misc. auto fluids, batteries is MUCH more disasterous to the environment than the emissions from those SUV's would have been.

C'mon, even you guys have to admit that was just a dumbass thing to do.
 
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actually,

take the average life (1st, 2nd owner) of a car + its emissions, I wouldn't agree with you. your statement and whether or not it was a stupid thing to do are two totally different things.
 

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So you are really saying that 18,000 TONS (give or take) of burning tires, batteries, auto fluids,and plastics are less harmful than the California-regulated emissions (strictest in the world) would have been ?
I serioulsy doubt that.
 
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You have to think about the damage that the average SUV driver would cause in the lifetime of the automobile + symbolic value of destroying the flagship of the "vanity class" + every automobile that said dealership has ever sold.

Furthermore, the cars weren't completely destroyed. They were, "liberated", like Iraq.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Furthermore, the cars weren't completely destroyed. They were, "liberated", like Iraq.
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I don't support these ELF turkey, but man that way funny
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LMAO
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by radiofreecostarica:
You have to think about the damage that the average SUV driver would cause in the lifetime of the automobile + symbolic value of destroying the flagship of the "vanity class" + every automobile that said dealership has ever sold.

Furthermore, the cars weren't completely destroyed. They were, "liberated", like Iraq.
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That doesn't make any sense at all. What good is "symbolic value" when the results of your action causes a tenfold amount of the very thing you're opposed to. But that's the case with you fruitcakes. Not interested in anything rational. Or maybe just gleefully oblivious to what is rational.

Hey I'm opposed to murder so I'm going to go randomly kill a bunch of people for symbolic value. Make sense to you?
 
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You have yet to prove that torching the SUV created this cataclysmic environmental damage. I have seen nothing to prove this. This attack, against contamination, is also an attack against a lifestyle. Do I agree with it? Yes and no.
Is it terrorism? No. This wasn't done to scare a population into changing a country/govt. etc etc.

But that's the case with you fruitcakes.

Nice stereotype. Great 'rationalization'.
 

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Mr. Tanaka - Give it up, KFC doesn't listen to anyone who has a different point of view.

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I don't think it was terrorism, just an example of some chickenshit assholes with nothing better to do. Put them and all the PETA members together and ship their ass to France. They'll fit in over there. Besides, the French need some replacements....
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