Once again – I had no intentions of doing this – but once again I felt the need to do so after hearing what I heard. I did this call on Saturday, Jan. 14 but just now have the time to do the long write-up and once again – all times are PST.
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The radio show “Linebusters” airs on a pair of So Cal all-sports stations Saturday morning and I had some free time to follow up on the promises. These scamdicappers are like all others in that they ALL claim they are the “Nation’s #1” sports service (must be a hell of a tie for #1 for if everyone I heard say they were #1 really was #1 there would be about a 500-way tie for #1 – at least).
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One of the more humorous (not that he intends it to be that way) losers is “Gordon Bell” who comes on towards the middle of the show. Gordon is a FAST and HIGH PITCHED New Yorker who is the greatest thing since sliced bread – just ask him – he’ll be more than happy to tell you so.
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So on this show, “Gordo” tells us with breathless excitement:
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“TODAY is my ‘NFL Playoff Game of the Year’. This is the strongest game I have released all season (EVERY WEEK these clowns all say the same – how THIS pick is the STRONGEST play of the season – even stronger than LAST week’s “Strongest Play of the Season”). If you only bet 1 game this weekend this game MUST be it. This game will cover by 2 TDs or more (another note here: EVERY PICK these clowns have is a blowout win – Joe Wiz actually says it will be a 20-point blowout) and if you call today I’ll also throw in all of Saturday’s College basketball action as well – as for free. If all bets were made with the information I have on this game you would win every time you made a wager (Gordo has obviously never heard of “bad beats” or strange plays). Take advantage of my Nationwide network of contacts and 60 hours a week of gathering information from every sharpie in the country. Call me NOW at 1-800-305-9881 and when you call, ask for me I’ll be more than happy to talk to you.”
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OK – you know me – how can I pass up this GREAT offer.
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So at 9:48A I call Gordon – eagerly anticipating the chance to speak to a “legend” like this!
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On the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> ring a young woman picks up the phone (Once again – it seems like young women always answer the phone – as in women in college or just out of college trying to make a few bucks) with the now usual way of doing so by saying, “Sports – are you calling for your free picks?” I tell her I am so she asks for my name and I give it to her (NOT my real one – of course). She then says, “Someone will call you right back.” So I hang up the phone and wait.
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AND WAIT
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AND WAIT
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And at 10:18A when NO ONE has called back I call them basically asking “wassup?” This time a guy picks up the phone and once again says “Sports.” I tell him I called about 30 minutes ago and never got a call back and was wondering what was up? I also toss in some pure “B.S.” by joking with the guy and saying I’ll bet they are swamped with people calling about the great offer. He tells me they are – then asks for my name and when I give it to him he says someone will call me back soon.
Sure enough, about 10 minutes later, the phone rings. The person on the other end tells me he is “Sal Conti” (Quick aside here – how come EVERY GUY I speak to at these services has an “Italian” sounding name – and never anything else. I have yet to run into an “Irving Rosenberg” at any service – only “Italian” guys). He tells me they are inundated with calls today and so far have gotten over…GET THIS…TEN THOUSAND (10,000) calls so far today (OK – let’s do the math here. Say they open at 7A (EST – or 4A PST) which I doubt – but let’s say they do. I speak to the guy about 6 hours after they open – this means they got OVER 1,500 calls PER HOUR or OVER 25 PER MINUTE! Yeah, right – but once again – who am I to call these people a liar?). Sal asks me to get a pen and paper (If he only knew). I pretend to fumble around and get it. He then gives me his name as well as his number of 1-800-280-5144. I ask if that is his private number and he says it is – and if his Secretary (as in the woman who answers phones at this number for all sales staff) picks it up to ask to speak to him. He also says if I want nothing but Bonus Plays I can call that number 7 days a week and he will give them to me (Sooooooooo people – we know what to do now!).
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Sal then talks about the company and the website. I ask for the website’s address and Sal tells me it is: www.gordonbellsports.com – and if you check it out – you will see it is as “amateurish” as they come (Also, if you go to: www.godaddy.com and take a look at who owns these sites, www.rickcash.com and www.joewiz.com you will see the contact person and e-mail address for ALL 3 is: Joe Wisniewsky - a.k.a.: Joe Wiz – hmmmmmmm you make the call here!).
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Sal also asks for my address so he can mail me 2 copies of some magazine and 3 issues of another one, too and both should arrive within 4 business days (FYI – NEVER give these scumbags your address – NEVER – although they have it anyway by you calling their 800-number – but now they don’t have to wait for the bill to arrive – they have it now).
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Sal does say that for calling he is going to give me TWO free picks:
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In College Hoops: <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1lace>Nevada</st1lace></st1:State> 14.5 (<st1lace><st1
laceName>Boise</st1laceName> <st1laceType>State</st1laceType></st1lace> – and this pick WON)
In the NFL: NYJ/Pitt OVER 34.5 (And this pick, won, too)
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I ask Sal if the NYJ pick is the “FREE NFL Playoff Game of the Year” and much to my shock – Sal says IT IS.
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We all know the reason I call these places is to see if what is promised is what is delivered – and as much “fun” as I had with these guys – they do deserve some MAJOR LEAGUE KUDOS for PROMISING what they said I would get. They are only the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time this has ever happened (Jim Feist and Doc’s Sports) so they do deserve so credit here. But you know I didn’t hang up here – for I wanted to see what outlandish claims they would make.
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Sal then tells me to “bet conservatively” with the free picks (GREAT – then why the hell are you telling us about a FREE GOY – then telling us to bet in conservatively – when I get a GOY – I wanna HAMMER IT – not “peck” at it!). I ask ho the free picks have done and Sal tells me discounting the last 3 days they all won the last 12 days but have only been 50-50 the last 3 days.
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Sal then tells me the same thing most other services do in that they have 2 categories of customers/clients. The first is for people who don’t care if they win or lose (which is stupid – because EVERYONE cares if they win or lose) – these are the people who bet $5 to $10 a game. He also said, “These are the kind of people we hopefully never hear from again.” The second is people who CARE if they win or lose and don’t want the free stuff but rather they want to get involved with the strongest information Gordon Bell has (and for GB – we know what kind of “information” he does and doesn’t have).
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Sal then started reading from the script in front of him and started saying OUTLANDISH and UNTRUE things like:
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“We are the LARGEST sports service in the world – by far. We are a multi-million dollar organization (for those out there dying of laughter – sorry – but he said this. I know we all hate Jim Feist and Wayne Root here – but even we have to admit they have a large operation and DWARF what Gordon Bell does – my guess is Bell does LESS business in a year than Feist/Root do in a week or even weekend day during football season).
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I then asked Sal what their record and win percentage is for sports such as football, basketball and baseball. Sal NEVER told me but did say their last 19 “information games” have all been winners. Once again, Sal starts saying stuff he KNOWS aren’t true when he says:
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“We have information on a game today that is the strongest information we have ever gotten on a game (Imagine that – like they haven’t said that before or will ever say it again – like next week?).” Sal then tells me, “This information is directly from 1 of the 2 franchises on the field today” (Once again – picture this: A 25-year beat reporter for the Steelers sees Bill Cowher and asks him about the game plan and stuff like that. Cowher has known this guy forever and gets along great with him. Cowher tells the guy he’d love to do that – but can’t because the ONLY person he can tell it to is a sports service so they can take this information and use it to bet on the Steelers/Jets game and violate so many laws it isn’t funny – and the reporter – who will only use it for the story and keep it silent until after the fact CAN’T get this information because ONLY Gordon Bell can have it. Does anyone else have a tough time believing this scenario?). I then ask if CBS or Fox, whichever one is covering the game) has this information. Sal says he can’t be 100% sure but he doubts they have it, either (Once again – think is even remotely believable?).”
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Sal then tells me they normally get a MINIMUM of $500 for this pick but they want to get me on board and thus will get me the pick for a lot less than that (This is the SAME thing EVERYONE else says – to a “T”). He tells me I will get it for “next to nothing” and the price is $99. This also gets me a full weekend of service through Monday which will allow me to see this game win and all of the other weekend winners. He then tells me after the weekend is over I can walk away with my profits or I can choose to stay on board and make more money. Sal tells me I will “see pinpoint accuracy” with their picks and I will only be talking about getting more winners after the weekend.
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I then ask Sal what can I expect to make, money wise, for the weekend and if I sign up with them, for an extended period of time. Sal, once again reads from the script in front of him, and tells me I will get out of the program whatever I put into it adding, “The information we have will blow your socks off.” (Yeah, right!). Sal once again tells me they have gotten over 10,000 calls so far this weekend and expect to get a lot more.
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Sal then tells me something, once again, EVERYONE else tells me in that, “You’ll be paying m a lot more money over the long run and doing it with a smile on your face.” I ask him if this means I will be winning so much their fees will actually be paid by “my man” and Sal says that is what he means. I ask Sal what that pricing structure is and he never answers that directly – only saying they will make me a lot of money.
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I know Sal is about to ask for my credit card number so before he does, I ask if I can speak to Gordon Bell himself – since Gordon said in the radio ad if I called and asked to speak to Gordon he would come on the line and talk to anyone who wanted to – and I wanted to. Sal goes silent for a few seconds – no doubt scared out of his mind with my question for he can’t handle it since it wasn’t on the script in front of him but eventually pulls thru and says I can’t do that now for Gordon is busy (Yeah, right).
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Sal then asks me for my credit card for the $99 so I give him a number. Gosh, I hope those 16 numbers don’t belong to someone’s card or else they might not like me charging the picks to them. After getting the information Sal tells me a credit card processing company will call me back soon and then Sal will call back right after that.
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Sal also tells me the information and picks I get from them is to stay between us. He tells me they have a lot of players in my area who move “substantial figures” on their games and information and to “stay as quiet as humanly possible” with what they give me (My guess is Sal has NO CLUE where I live and if they have ONE client in my area I’d be shocked).
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We then end the conversation and I hang up the phone around 10:40A. Unlike with Joe Wiz I don’t bother sticking around for Sal to call back and ask what happened with the credit card number. I simply hang up – wait a few seconds and then take the phone off the hook so that when he calls back he gets a busy signal.
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As I said – these clowns do get some “kudos” for delivering what they promised – but some of their claims and outright laughable and even they know it and while it did ht – it wasn’t by the “Two TDs or more” that Gordon Bell said it would but rather by 3 points – hardly “2 TDs or more.” Also, a few times during the call I heard a distinct “clicking” noise on it – as if Sal’s “call waiting” was ringing thru of even perhaps he was recording my call (and if he was – he is in DEEP DOG DOO for I NEVER gave him permission to do so).
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Don’t forget since we have Sal’s number and he said we could call as many times as we want for free picks – to do so as often as you want. If he asks how you got his name and number, tell him “Bart” gave it to you (I used the name “Bart Stevens” during my call).
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<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" /><o> </o>The radio show “Linebusters” airs on a pair of So Cal all-sports stations Saturday morning and I had some free time to follow up on the promises. These scamdicappers are like all others in that they ALL claim they are the “Nation’s #1” sports service (must be a hell of a tie for #1 for if everyone I heard say they were #1 really was #1 there would be about a 500-way tie for #1 – at least).
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> </o>One of the more humorous (not that he intends it to be that way) losers is “Gordon Bell” who comes on towards the middle of the show. Gordon is a FAST and HIGH PITCHED New Yorker who is the greatest thing since sliced bread – just ask him – he’ll be more than happy to tell you so.
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> </o>So on this show, “Gordo” tells us with breathless excitement:
<o
> </o>“TODAY is my ‘NFL Playoff Game of the Year’. This is the strongest game I have released all season (EVERY WEEK these clowns all say the same – how THIS pick is the STRONGEST play of the season – even stronger than LAST week’s “Strongest Play of the Season”). If you only bet 1 game this weekend this game MUST be it. This game will cover by 2 TDs or more (another note here: EVERY PICK these clowns have is a blowout win – Joe Wiz actually says it will be a 20-point blowout) and if you call today I’ll also throw in all of Saturday’s College basketball action as well – as for free. If all bets were made with the information I have on this game you would win every time you made a wager (Gordo has obviously never heard of “bad beats” or strange plays). Take advantage of my Nationwide network of contacts and 60 hours a week of gathering information from every sharpie in the country. Call me NOW at 1-800-305-9881 and when you call, ask for me I’ll be more than happy to talk to you.”
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> </o>OK – you know me – how can I pass up this GREAT offer.
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> </o>So at 9:48A I call Gordon – eagerly anticipating the chance to speak to a “legend” like this!
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> </o>On the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> ring a young woman picks up the phone (Once again – it seems like young women always answer the phone – as in women in college or just out of college trying to make a few bucks) with the now usual way of doing so by saying, “Sports – are you calling for your free picks?” I tell her I am so she asks for my name and I give it to her (NOT my real one – of course). She then says, “Someone will call you right back.” So I hang up the phone and wait.
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> </o>AND WAIT
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> </o>AND WAIT
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> </o>And at 10:18A when NO ONE has called back I call them basically asking “wassup?” This time a guy picks up the phone and once again says “Sports.” I tell him I called about 30 minutes ago and never got a call back and was wondering what was up? I also toss in some pure “B.S.” by joking with the guy and saying I’ll bet they are swamped with people calling about the great offer. He tells me they are – then asks for my name and when I give it to him he says someone will call me back soon.
Sure enough, about 10 minutes later, the phone rings. The person on the other end tells me he is “Sal Conti” (Quick aside here – how come EVERY GUY I speak to at these services has an “Italian” sounding name – and never anything else. I have yet to run into an “Irving Rosenberg” at any service – only “Italian” guys). He tells me they are inundated with calls today and so far have gotten over…GET THIS…TEN THOUSAND (10,000) calls so far today (OK – let’s do the math here. Say they open at 7A (EST – or 4A PST) which I doubt – but let’s say they do. I speak to the guy about 6 hours after they open – this means they got OVER 1,500 calls PER HOUR or OVER 25 PER MINUTE! Yeah, right – but once again – who am I to call these people a liar?). Sal asks me to get a pen and paper (If he only knew). I pretend to fumble around and get it. He then gives me his name as well as his number of 1-800-280-5144. I ask if that is his private number and he says it is – and if his Secretary (as in the woman who answers phones at this number for all sales staff) picks it up to ask to speak to him. He also says if I want nothing but Bonus Plays I can call that number 7 days a week and he will give them to me (Sooooooooo people – we know what to do now!).
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></o> Sal then talks about the company and the website. I ask for the website’s address and Sal tells me it is: www.gordonbellsports.com – and if you check it out – you will see it is as “amateurish” as they come (Also, if you go to: www.godaddy.com and take a look at who owns these sites, www.rickcash.com and www.joewiz.com you will see the contact person and e-mail address for ALL 3 is: Joe Wisniewsky - a.k.a.: Joe Wiz – hmmmmmmm you make the call here!).
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></o> Sal also asks for my address so he can mail me 2 copies of some magazine and 3 issues of another one, too and both should arrive within 4 business days (FYI – NEVER give these scumbags your address – NEVER – although they have it anyway by you calling their 800-number – but now they don’t have to wait for the bill to arrive – they have it now).
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> </o>Sal does say that for calling he is going to give me TWO free picks:
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> </o>In College Hoops: <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
ffice:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1lace>Nevada</st1lace></st1:State> 14.5 (<st1lace><st1laceName>Boise</st1laceName> <st1laceType>State</st1laceType></st1lace> – and this pick WON)In the NFL: NYJ/Pitt OVER 34.5 (And this pick, won, too)
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> </o>I ask Sal if the NYJ pick is the “FREE NFL Playoff Game of the Year” and much to my shock – Sal says IT IS.
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> </o>We all know the reason I call these places is to see if what is promised is what is delivered – and as much “fun” as I had with these guys – they do deserve some MAJOR LEAGUE KUDOS for PROMISING what they said I would get. They are only the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time this has ever happened (Jim Feist and Doc’s Sports) so they do deserve so credit here. But you know I didn’t hang up here – for I wanted to see what outlandish claims they would make.
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> </o>Sal then tells me to “bet conservatively” with the free picks (GREAT – then why the hell are you telling us about a FREE GOY – then telling us to bet in conservatively – when I get a GOY – I wanna HAMMER IT – not “peck” at it!). I ask ho the free picks have done and Sal tells me discounting the last 3 days they all won the last 12 days but have only been 50-50 the last 3 days.
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> </o>Sal then tells me the same thing most other services do in that they have 2 categories of customers/clients. The first is for people who don’t care if they win or lose (which is stupid – because EVERYONE cares if they win or lose) – these are the people who bet $5 to $10 a game. He also said, “These are the kind of people we hopefully never hear from again.” The second is people who CARE if they win or lose and don’t want the free stuff but rather they want to get involved with the strongest information Gordon Bell has (and for GB – we know what kind of “information” he does and doesn’t have).
<o
> </o>Sal then started reading from the script in front of him and started saying OUTLANDISH and UNTRUE things like:
<o
> </o>“We are the LARGEST sports service in the world – by far. We are a multi-million dollar organization (for those out there dying of laughter – sorry – but he said this. I know we all hate Jim Feist and Wayne Root here – but even we have to admit they have a large operation and DWARF what Gordon Bell does – my guess is Bell does LESS business in a year than Feist/Root do in a week or even weekend day during football season).
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> </o>I then asked Sal what their record and win percentage is for sports such as football, basketball and baseball. Sal NEVER told me but did say their last 19 “information games” have all been winners. Once again, Sal starts saying stuff he KNOWS aren’t true when he says:
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> </o>“We have information on a game today that is the strongest information we have ever gotten on a game (Imagine that – like they haven’t said that before or will ever say it again – like next week?).” Sal then tells me, “This information is directly from 1 of the 2 franchises on the field today” (Once again – picture this: A 25-year beat reporter for the Steelers sees Bill Cowher and asks him about the game plan and stuff like that. Cowher has known this guy forever and gets along great with him. Cowher tells the guy he’d love to do that – but can’t because the ONLY person he can tell it to is a sports service so they can take this information and use it to bet on the Steelers/Jets game and violate so many laws it isn’t funny – and the reporter – who will only use it for the story and keep it silent until after the fact CAN’T get this information because ONLY Gordon Bell can have it. Does anyone else have a tough time believing this scenario?). I then ask if CBS or Fox, whichever one is covering the game) has this information. Sal says he can’t be 100% sure but he doubts they have it, either (Once again – think is even remotely believable?).”
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> </o>Sal then tells me they normally get a MINIMUM of $500 for this pick but they want to get me on board and thus will get me the pick for a lot less than that (This is the SAME thing EVERYONE else says – to a “T”). He tells me I will get it for “next to nothing” and the price is $99. This also gets me a full weekend of service through Monday which will allow me to see this game win and all of the other weekend winners. He then tells me after the weekend is over I can walk away with my profits or I can choose to stay on board and make more money. Sal tells me I will “see pinpoint accuracy” with their picks and I will only be talking about getting more winners after the weekend.
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> </o>I then ask Sal what can I expect to make, money wise, for the weekend and if I sign up with them, for an extended period of time. Sal, once again reads from the script in front of him, and tells me I will get out of the program whatever I put into it adding, “The information we have will blow your socks off.” (Yeah, right!). Sal once again tells me they have gotten over 10,000 calls so far this weekend and expect to get a lot more.
<o
> </o>Sal then tells me something, once again, EVERYONE else tells me in that, “You’ll be paying m a lot more money over the long run and doing it with a smile on your face.” I ask him if this means I will be winning so much their fees will actually be paid by “my man” and Sal says that is what he means. I ask Sal what that pricing structure is and he never answers that directly – only saying they will make me a lot of money.
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> </o>I know Sal is about to ask for my credit card number so before he does, I ask if I can speak to Gordon Bell himself – since Gordon said in the radio ad if I called and asked to speak to Gordon he would come on the line and talk to anyone who wanted to – and I wanted to. Sal goes silent for a few seconds – no doubt scared out of his mind with my question for he can’t handle it since it wasn’t on the script in front of him but eventually pulls thru and says I can’t do that now for Gordon is busy (Yeah, right).
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> </o>Sal then asks me for my credit card for the $99 so I give him a number. Gosh, I hope those 16 numbers don’t belong to someone’s card or else they might not like me charging the picks to them. After getting the information Sal tells me a credit card processing company will call me back soon and then Sal will call back right after that.
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> </o>Sal also tells me the information and picks I get from them is to stay between us. He tells me they have a lot of players in my area who move “substantial figures” on their games and information and to “stay as quiet as humanly possible” with what they give me (My guess is Sal has NO CLUE where I live and if they have ONE client in my area I’d be shocked).
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> </o>We then end the conversation and I hang up the phone around 10:40A. Unlike with Joe Wiz I don’t bother sticking around for Sal to call back and ask what happened with the credit card number. I simply hang up – wait a few seconds and then take the phone off the hook so that when he calls back he gets a busy signal.
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> </o>As I said – these clowns do get some “kudos” for delivering what they promised – but some of their claims and outright laughable and even they know it and while it did ht – it wasn’t by the “Two TDs or more” that Gordon Bell said it would but rather by 3 points – hardly “2 TDs or more.” Also, a few times during the call I heard a distinct “clicking” noise on it – as if Sal’s “call waiting” was ringing thru of even perhaps he was recording my call (and if he was – he is in DEEP DOG DOO for I NEVER gave him permission to do so).
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> </o>Don’t forget since we have Sal’s number and he said we could call as many times as we want for free picks – to do so as often as you want. If he asks how you got his name and number, tell him “Bart” gave it to you (I used the name “Bart Stevens” during my call).
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