now, i have chelsea fer a decent piece in this FA Cup Semi...but c'mon...even from the back angle you could see that ball never in a lite year crossed the line..modern day technology what it is and we still can't sort things right?....i'd be at arms if i was on spurs
Teams should be allowed 1 challenge per game. The ref should have a video monitor to look at on the sidelines. Then add the time it takes to stoppage time.
They should definately have this technology on plays whether the ball crossed the line or not, not sure about offside calls.
Now, it's an even bigger controversy as the Spurs have scored. Should be 1-1.
They should definately have this technology on plays whether the ball crossed the line or not, not sure about offside calls.
Now, it's an even bigger controversy as the Spurs have scored. Should be 1-1.
WEMBLEY, England (AP) The final phase of goal-line technology tests will begin this month before soccer's rule-makers make a definitive decision in July, FIFA said Sunday after another high-profile controversy.
Chelsea reached the FA Cup final with a 5-1 victory over Tottenham, with replays indicating that Juan Mata's shot never crossed the line for Chelsea's second goal.
The International Football Association Board, the game's rule-making body, last month approved two systems to go into a second round of testing in match scenarios before either can be sanctioned for use in competitive fixtures at a meeting July 2.
''The latest planning meeting for test phase two was held on Friday, and the second phase of tests will commence before end of April, and will continue throughout May,'' FIFA said in a statement to The Associated Press.
IFAB must be satisfied with the speed and accuracy of Hawk-Eye or GoalRef before high-tech aids for referees can be deployed in football for the first time.
Sony Corp.'s Hawk-Eye is a camera-based ball-tracking system successfully deployed in tennis and cricket. GoalRef, owned by a German-Danish company, uses a magnetic field with a special ball.
Both systems send a signal within a second of the ball crossing the line to the referee, who will retain the power to make the final call.
In Sunday's game at Wembley Stadium, television replays quickly indicated that Mata's shot at the start of the second half didn't cross the line when it was bundled clear by Tottenham defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto, who was lying on the turf on the goal line in a scramble.
''It was nowhere near the line,'' Tottenham midfielder Scott Parker said. ''I had a perfect view. Four players were covering the line, so how the ball could've got over the line, I don't know. The linesman said he didn't make the decision. The ref took it upon himself.''
Martin Atkinson, the FIFA-accredited referee who awarded the goal, will be one of UEFA's goal-line assistants for Howard Webb at the June 8-July 1 European Championship.
Even Chelsea players later accepted their second goal should not have been given when they were leading 1-0 in the semifinal.
''We've been calling for goal-line technology for a very long time,'' Chelsea defender John Terry said. ''Let's hope that people make the right decisions (on approving it).''
FIFA's support for goal-line technology had wavered until a high-profile blunder at the 2010 World Cup involving Terry's England convinced President Sepp Blatter that any further embarrassments had to be avoided at major tournaments.
A shot by Chelsea's Frank Lampard in a game against Germany at the World Cup in South Africa bounced off the crossbar and landed beyond the goal line but did not count as England was knocked out of the competition.
FIFA is hopeful one of the systems will be ready for use at the Club World Cup in December in Japan, but the Premier League hopes it could fast-track technology into its 20 grounds before the new season starts in July.
The disputed goal at Wembley on Sunday revived memories of a famously controversial goal there in the 1966 World Cup final between England and Germany.
They were drawing 2-2 in extra time when Geoff Hurst's shot struck the underside of the crossbar, bounced down and spun back into play. That time, the referee consulted his linesman, who awarded the goal for England. Hurst went on to score a third goal as England won 4-2.
For a change to the rules to be approved, six votes are required on IFAB, which is comprised of the four British associations plus four FIFA delegates.
Chelsea reached the FA Cup final with a 5-1 victory over Tottenham, with replays indicating that Juan Mata's shot never crossed the line for Chelsea's second goal.
The International Football Association Board, the game's rule-making body, last month approved two systems to go into a second round of testing in match scenarios before either can be sanctioned for use in competitive fixtures at a meeting July 2.
''The latest planning meeting for test phase two was held on Friday, and the second phase of tests will commence before end of April, and will continue throughout May,'' FIFA said in a statement to The Associated Press.
IFAB must be satisfied with the speed and accuracy of Hawk-Eye or GoalRef before high-tech aids for referees can be deployed in football for the first time.
Sony Corp.'s Hawk-Eye is a camera-based ball-tracking system successfully deployed in tennis and cricket. GoalRef, owned by a German-Danish company, uses a magnetic field with a special ball.
Both systems send a signal within a second of the ball crossing the line to the referee, who will retain the power to make the final call.
In Sunday's game at Wembley Stadium, television replays quickly indicated that Mata's shot at the start of the second half didn't cross the line when it was bundled clear by Tottenham defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto, who was lying on the turf on the goal line in a scramble.
''It was nowhere near the line,'' Tottenham midfielder Scott Parker said. ''I had a perfect view. Four players were covering the line, so how the ball could've got over the line, I don't know. The linesman said he didn't make the decision. The ref took it upon himself.''
Martin Atkinson, the FIFA-accredited referee who awarded the goal, will be one of UEFA's goal-line assistants for Howard Webb at the June 8-July 1 European Championship.
Even Chelsea players later accepted their second goal should not have been given when they were leading 1-0 in the semifinal.
''We've been calling for goal-line technology for a very long time,'' Chelsea defender John Terry said. ''Let's hope that people make the right decisions (on approving it).''
FIFA's support for goal-line technology had wavered until a high-profile blunder at the 2010 World Cup involving Terry's England convinced President Sepp Blatter that any further embarrassments had to be avoided at major tournaments.
A shot by Chelsea's Frank Lampard in a game against Germany at the World Cup in South Africa bounced off the crossbar and landed beyond the goal line but did not count as England was knocked out of the competition.
FIFA is hopeful one of the systems will be ready for use at the Club World Cup in December in Japan, but the Premier League hopes it could fast-track technology into its 20 grounds before the new season starts in July.
The disputed goal at Wembley on Sunday revived memories of a famously controversial goal there in the 1966 World Cup final between England and Germany.
They were drawing 2-2 in extra time when Geoff Hurst's shot struck the underside of the crossbar, bounced down and spun back into play. That time, the referee consulted his linesman, who awarded the goal for England. Hurst went on to score a third goal as England won 4-2.
For a change to the rules to be approved, six votes are required on IFAB, which is comprised of the four British associations plus four FIFA delegates.
to have some kind of replay in baseball, hockey, football, basketball, rugby, cricket and tennis but somehow not soccer is bizarre. Hell even curling rocks have hogline technology to make sure the curler lets go of the rock before they cross the line. It's coming but taking a sweet ass time...hard to move quickly on new ideas when the sport is run by 87 year olds
well the excuse has always been that if you use goal line technology for the major leagues then you must use it for lower divisions which is complete bullshit. the EPL brings in over $4B from overseas TV contracts and signed a domestic deal with SKY sports for $500M....to not think that this should outweigh what happens in a Stevenage match is moronic. Then again it's run by a guy that will swing any which way for a handout so if either Sony or Goal-Ref want to give Sepp a piece of the action, we'll have goal line technology before the new season starts
It is completely ridiculous that in the lowest scoring sport of all of them where each goal matters significantly that there isn't replay. Who cares if they don't have it at every game, the more the better. QPR might end up getting relegated because of the goal they scored vs. bolton that wasn't allowed.
It looks like July 2nd is the day we will know more.
MLS would use goal-line technology
Updated: April 19, 2012, 9:39 PM ET
NEW YORK -- Major League Soccer would implement goal-line technology quickly if it is approved in July by the sport's rules-making body.
"We're interested in being a test league and we hope that we could achieve that," MLS commissioner Don Garber said Thursday while speaking to the Associated Press Sports Editors group. "I would be open to whatever it is that could be done to ensure that we have goal-line technology."
The International Football Association Board meets July 2 and could approve Sony Corp.'s Hawk-Eye or GoalRef, owned by a German-Danish company. Following a series of erroneous calls in high-profile games ranging from the 2010 World Cup to this year's FA Cup, there could be more support for goal-line technology among tradition-bound soccer officials.
Hawk-Eye is a camera-based ball-tracking system used in tennis and cricket. GoalRef employs a magnetic field with a special ball. Both could be approved.
Each system sends a signal within a second of the ball crossing the line to the referee, who makes the final decision.
If approval is granted in July, Garber said, MLS could implement the technology at some point during this season, which began in March. The Premier League hopes to use it for its 2012-13 season, which starts in August.
"There's a lot more that we need to learn about it, understanding the process," Garber said. "The bottom line here is that I would be open to using goal-line technology as soon as it is made available."
He said the league's policy of using video review to punish players for simulation was working.
"Americans generally ... view that aspect of the game as not fitting with our culture or our view of fairness," he said. "We have almost eliminated that unpleasant or unsavory aspect of the game from our sport."
Garber also said MLS was interested in Spanish forward Raul Gonzalez, who said Thursday he would leave European soccer when his two-year contract with Schalke expires at the end of the season. Raul, who turns 35 in June, has not said whether he prefers MLS to clubs in Asia.
Garber said the league remained focused on placing its 20th team in the New York area, with talks for a stadium taking precedent over the ownership group. He said there are several groups interested and there would be a "near auction" for ownership rights.
Beyond that, other markets that interest the league in expansion beyond 20 teams include Miami, Orlando, the Southwest and Atlanta. The league also is working with Chivas USA, which would like to leave the Home Depot Center and relocate within the Los Angeles area.
"We're got to work hard to figure out a repositioning and a re-energized approach," he said.
With the addition of Montreal this year, average attendance in the league is 19,493 through 53 games, up 12 percent from 17,370 at this point last year.
"It's about trying to improve the quality of play," Garber said. "The NFL doesn't have to think about that. The NBA doesn't have to think about that. We're competing against global soccer here. We've got to raise the quality of play within a very focused and strategic economic system yet be able to offer fans something that they will think is of similar quality as the Premier League or Serie A or La Liga. We don't think we're going to be better than the Premier League."
Garber praised the Seattle Sounders for marketing beyond their youth soccer community.
"It's about young, urban, hip, 20-somethings who care about the game and really want something to cheer and celebrate for because they're connected to it through EA, connected to it through watching Fox and the Premier League, and now we're going to give them the chance to do it in their hometown," he said.
Television ratings are down 18 percent on ESPN and ESPN2 through three telecasts, but the new package on NBC Sports Network has averaged 118,000 viewers for six telecasts, up 84 percent from last year on Fox Soccer Channel, which has a smaller distribution.
"We've got to grow our television ratings in order to achieve our goals," he said. "We could turn that switch on if we wanted to invest in more David Beckhams, because we've seen ratings growth with (Thierry) Henry and Beckham when those two players are on national television."
He said uniform sponsorship deals had generated nearly $100 million for MLS and its teams and that the Los Angeles Galaxy's agreement with Herbalife alone was worth $40 million over its term.
In addition, Garber said a media private equity fund has invested in Soccer United Marketing. The league has no plans anytime soon to switch to an international calendar or start relegation.
Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press
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MLS would use goal-line technology
Updated: April 19, 2012, 9:39 PM ET
NEW YORK -- Major League Soccer would implement goal-line technology quickly if it is approved in July by the sport's rules-making body.
"We're interested in being a test league and we hope that we could achieve that," MLS commissioner Don Garber said Thursday while speaking to the Associated Press Sports Editors group. "I would be open to whatever it is that could be done to ensure that we have goal-line technology."
The International Football Association Board meets July 2 and could approve Sony Corp.'s Hawk-Eye or GoalRef, owned by a German-Danish company. Following a series of erroneous calls in high-profile games ranging from the 2010 World Cup to this year's FA Cup, there could be more support for goal-line technology among tradition-bound soccer officials.
Hawk-Eye is a camera-based ball-tracking system used in tennis and cricket. GoalRef employs a magnetic field with a special ball. Both could be approved.
Each system sends a signal within a second of the ball crossing the line to the referee, who makes the final decision.
If approval is granted in July, Garber said, MLS could implement the technology at some point during this season, which began in March. The Premier League hopes to use it for its 2012-13 season, which starts in August.
"There's a lot more that we need to learn about it, understanding the process," Garber said. "The bottom line here is that I would be open to using goal-line technology as soon as it is made available."
He said the league's policy of using video review to punish players for simulation was working.
"Americans generally ... view that aspect of the game as not fitting with our culture or our view of fairness," he said. "We have almost eliminated that unpleasant or unsavory aspect of the game from our sport."
Garber also said MLS was interested in Spanish forward Raul Gonzalez, who said Thursday he would leave European soccer when his two-year contract with Schalke expires at the end of the season. Raul, who turns 35 in June, has not said whether he prefers MLS to clubs in Asia.
Garber said the league remained focused on placing its 20th team in the New York area, with talks for a stadium taking precedent over the ownership group. He said there are several groups interested and there would be a "near auction" for ownership rights.
Beyond that, other markets that interest the league in expansion beyond 20 teams include Miami, Orlando, the Southwest and Atlanta. The league also is working with Chivas USA, which would like to leave the Home Depot Center and relocate within the Los Angeles area.
"We're got to work hard to figure out a repositioning and a re-energized approach," he said.
With the addition of Montreal this year, average attendance in the league is 19,493 through 53 games, up 12 percent from 17,370 at this point last year.
"It's about trying to improve the quality of play," Garber said. "The NFL doesn't have to think about that. The NBA doesn't have to think about that. We're competing against global soccer here. We've got to raise the quality of play within a very focused and strategic economic system yet be able to offer fans something that they will think is of similar quality as the Premier League or Serie A or La Liga. We don't think we're going to be better than the Premier League."
Garber praised the Seattle Sounders for marketing beyond their youth soccer community.
"It's about young, urban, hip, 20-somethings who care about the game and really want something to cheer and celebrate for because they're connected to it through EA, connected to it through watching Fox and the Premier League, and now we're going to give them the chance to do it in their hometown," he said.
Television ratings are down 18 percent on ESPN and ESPN2 through three telecasts, but the new package on NBC Sports Network has averaged 118,000 viewers for six telecasts, up 84 percent from last year on Fox Soccer Channel, which has a smaller distribution.
"We've got to grow our television ratings in order to achieve our goals," he said. "We could turn that switch on if we wanted to invest in more David Beckhams, because we've seen ratings growth with (Thierry) Henry and Beckham when those two players are on national television."
He said uniform sponsorship deals had generated nearly $100 million for MLS and its teams and that the Los Angeles Galaxy's agreement with Herbalife alone was worth $40 million over its term.
In addition, Garber said a media private equity fund has invested in Soccer United Marketing. The league has no plans anytime soon to switch to an international calendar or start relegation.
Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/mls/story/_/id/7832898/commissioner-don-garber-says-major-league-soccer-ready-use-goal-line-technology
