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Then I can assume you are also fine with Polygamy? Seems cut and dry if you are for gay Marriage, you should be for Polygamy.

I'd say it's a moot point now as Gay Marriage will be legal in all 52 states soon enough. Polygamy will follow as soon as they get powerful enough to advance their cause.

People that marry more then one wife put an affair burden on the taxpayer.
 

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Why do conservatives think
Gays can't get married?

A real conservative doesn't believe that the government should recognize any "marriage" or bestow it any special benefit. If you like, you can be married by a religion or call yourself married or create a contract and call it marriage or whatever.
 

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SO it's okay to discriminate if an unfair tax advantage would be gained?

Wow, I've never heard that answer before.

Yes if your going to use your religious beliefs and expect the tax payer to pay for them then you should not be able to use said religious beliefs. You obviously have a hard time with logic, so ill be patient. Having a man marry a man and collect health care is fine IMO because its just the same if married a woman, it would still cost the same in general. I mean have you seen these places in Utah? fucking welfare, medicaid and the whole nine because the bible told them they could do so? Or because some sick fuck used it as an excuse to get multiple sources of pussy? I dont know, you be the judge.
 

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Yes if your going to use your religious beliefs and expect the tax payer to pay for them then you should not be able to use said religious beliefs. You obviously have a hard time with logic, so ill be patient. Having a man marry a man and collect health care is fine IMO because its just the same if married a woman, it would still cost the same in general. I mean have you seen these places in Utah? fucking welfare, medicaid and the whole nine because the bible told them they could do so? Or because some sick fuck used it as an excuse to get multiple sources of pussy? I dont know, you be the judge.

It's simple, there is ZERO difference. Unless you want some kind of wealth test performed on every marriage your point is specious at best.
 

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A real conservative doesn't believe that the government should recognize any "marriage" or bestow it any special benefit. If you like, you can be married by a religion or call yourself married or create a contract and call it marriage or whatever.

How do they determine who has a right as a survivor to SS benefits.
 

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It's simple, there is ZERO difference. Unless you want some kind of wealth test performed on every marriage your point is specious at best.

One wife, thats it. Fucking religious beliefs are fine and dandy but when they break laws, how does that stick? It doesn't, that is why those fuckers are thrown into jail everyday. You want your freedom of religion that breaks US laws? Then move to a country that doesnt have the same laws, pretty simple. Or have Utah fund that shit themselves and let it be their problem, i say more power to the states anyway.

For example. What if my religion called for public beatings of my wife, daily at 12 pm in the center of the town. Freedom of religion. Thats my point. Religion cant supersede law, hence we have a secular government.
 

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I understand that over 90% of battered women have one thing in common.

They just will not fucking listen.
 

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I think your real point is that most Americans are ingorant fucks like you but that doesnt mean that the gays should suffer because of your lack of an open mind. I hope all your kids grow up to be gay Democrats with black boyfriends.

Only a left wing bigot could make such a staement and not see the ignorance and racism in his own worrds.

Do you think all of those California voters are Republicans - did the possibility that many of them are Democrats never cross your mind?

Why do you say BLACK boyfriends and not Irish or Chinese or Latino?

Why do you assume that gays should suffer for not getting something they've never had?

And why do you say "most Americans are ingorant fucks" because they don't agrre with your homosexual agenda?

Based on your own words, it seems to me that you're the ignorant fuck.

The issue is gay marriage which most people are against.

if the issue were civil unions, gays would probably get their way - but the militants have taken oiver the agenda and want to force acceptance of their deviance on the rest of us.

Homosexual militants (after your bigoted diatribe NES, should I think you're a homo?) are at afault here since civil union would likely carry majority support while the attack on marriage is losing more and more suppotrt every day.
 

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How have you determined that "most people " are against gay marriage.

Dubya tell you so.
 

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I understand that over 90% of battered women have one thing in common.

They just will not fucking listen.

They just will not fucking listen

That aslo goes for us well fed, battered ear husbands?
 

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I heard that years ago. Not a story that will endear you if told at home.
 

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How have you determined that "most people " are against gay marriage.

Dubya tell you so.

What ever gave you the idea they weren't?

Are you trying to insinuate that most people supoport gay marriage?
 
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How have you determined that "most people " are against gay marriage.

Dubya tell you so.

Here you go, don't cry now.

Nation Wide Poll July 2008

<table class="PollingTable" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>American voters oppose same-sex marriage 55 - 36 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Democrats support same-sex marriage by a narrow 47 - 43 percent margin, while Republicans oppose it 80 - 14 percent and independent voters oppose it 49 - 43 percent.

</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> Women oppose same-sex marriage 51 - 40 percent and men oppose it 61 - 31 percent.

</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> Voters also say 50 - 44 percent that states should not give legal recognition to same-sex marriages performed in other states, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Given three choices, 32 percent of American voters say same-sex couples should be allowed to marry while 33 percent support civil unions for same-sex couples and 29 percent say there should be no legal recognition for same-sex couples. </td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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So thats why the repugs brought it up all the time when people objected to their invented war.
 

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Here you go, don't cry now.

Nation Wide Poll July 2008

<table class="PollingTable" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td>American voters oppose same-sex marriage 55 - 36 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Democrats support same-sex marriage by a narrow 47 - 43 percent margin, while Republicans oppose it 80 - 14 percent and independent voters oppose it 49 - 43 percent.

</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> Women oppose same-sex marriage 51 - 40 percent and men oppose it 61 - 31 percent.

</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> Voters also say 50 - 44 percent that states should not give legal recognition to same-sex marriages performed in other states, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Given three choices, 32 percent of American voters say same-sex couples should be allowed to marry while 33 percent support civil unions for same-sex couples and 29 percent say there should be no legal recognition for same-sex couples. </td></tr></tbody></table>


Good thing we live in a REPUBLIC and not a Democracy, eh?
 

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i actually used to be against gay marriage cause it was gross. And then one of my liberal friends asked me why i gave a shit if they were married, and I realized i didnt really. And he said, shit, it means a lot to them. And I realized he was right. NAMBLA's wrong cause its child abuse. Polygamy's wrong because it can lead to spousal abuse. Fucking animals is wrong because it can lead to animal abuse. Gay marriage is wrong because it can lead to...if you cant fill in the blank you have no buisness being against it cause it means a hell of a lot to someone...
 

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i actually used to be against gay marriage cause it was gross. And then one of my liberal friends asked me why i gave a shit if they were married, and I realized i didnt really. And he said, shit, it means a lot to them. And I realized he was right. NAMBLA's wrong cause its child abuse. Polygamy's wrong because it can lead to spousal abuse. Fucking animals is wrong because it can lead to animal abuse. Gay marriage is wrong because it can lead to...if you cant fill in the blank you have no buisness being against it cause it means a hell of a lot to someone...

Really well thought out post. Usually, i would try and say something cynical here, but i cant. good post and i concur. :toast:
 

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