Former NFL player swims nine miles to shore after falling out of boat

[Ricboff]

the will to live takes over- never underestimate its power, . Guess in his mind too much to live for, and he wasn't going down. The mind factor becoming huge , can overcompensate-- from the video certainly appearing not in elite shape,

many say, 'I can never do that'-- constantly defining their limits. If pressed, they'd be surprised.



nice story

 

[Acebb]

There was just a story on the news a couple of weeks ago about a guy surviving in the Alaskan wilderness stalked by a Wolverine.

I'd say more people could survive that than could swim 9 miles in the ocean. But not that many more.

 

[PatsFan1283]

You convinced me that my 1-2% figure is ridiculous.

I don't think 70 to 140 million people could pull it off.
But like you said the will to survive is a mighty powerful thing.

10 to 100k people is an incredibly small number.

I just think at least 1 million people could do it.

But putting all this aside this has to be one of the most incredible stories I've ever read in my life.

The will to survive would be powerful but obviously it could have negative effects too. Panic, hysteria

A good question would be which would yield a higher level of survivors

1. The exact situation Konrad went through

2. A controlled environment where it was the exact situation he went through, however, you know if you begin to struggle mightily that a helicopter will immediately come and rescue you. We'll say there is a very, very big financial incentive to finish since we need to incentivize people on the same level as your life being on the line.

 

[PatsFan1283]

There was just a story on the news a couple of weeks ago about a guy surviving in the Alaskan wilderness stalked by a Wolverine.

I'd say more people could survive that than could swim 9 miles in the ocean. But not that many more.

Based on his route of travel, the estimate was actually 27 miles over 16 hours.

 

[CHOPTALK]

The majority of people being able to do it would have some type of high level athletic background and be aged say 20-40 and also have swimming experience.

Nobody at the RX could do it. Enfuego would probably start trying to debate the shark and just get eaten.

If you have a life jacket though the % would go up a lot as long as the conditions don't get too bad. Just more about pain tolerance at that point I'd think.

Right now Enfuego is reading this thread trying to figure out which side of the argument would make for a longer thread.

If he comes to the conclusion that more people will argue with him that > can do it then his opinion will be <. He he thinks more people will say < then his opinion will be >.

Hes is a professional.

 

[CHOPTALK]

The will to survive would be powerful but obviously it could have negative effects too. Panic, hysteria

A good question would be which would yield a higher level of survivors

1. The exact situation Konrad went through

2. A controlled environment where it was the exact situation he went through, however, you know if you begin to struggle mightily that a helicopter will immediately come and rescue you. We'll say there is a very, very big financial incentive to finish since we need to incentivize people on the same level as your life being on the line.

If this situation was under a controlled "survivor reality show" type environment the odds go way way up.
I could probably hire a personal trainer for 6 months and maybe pull it off under those conditions.

But I don't believe I would have been able to pull off what the fullback did under those real conditions.


Controled vs non Controled is night day difference

 

[Betallsports]

The majority of people being able to do it would have some type of high level athletic background and be aged say 20-40 and also have swimming experience.

Nobody at the RX could do it. Enfuego would probably start trying to debate the shark and just get eaten.

If you have a life jacket though the % would go up a lot as long as the conditions don't get too bad. Just more about pain tolerance at that point I'd think.

I would say Coach CB could..... He fits about everything you have posted, outside of the Will to Live... which I'm sure he fits as well.

 

[PatsFan1283]

well that isnt apples to apples

It still has to be sudden with no training or preparation as Konrad's situation was.

Lets say 1million dollars but if you fail you just get rescued and treated for hypothermia, frostbite but no threat of death

vs Konrads situation


I bet being able to stay calm knowing you have less to lose would yield higher results. The will to survive is important but the threat of death can also hurt people in this situation.

 

[Shub]

I'm sure he floated on his back for a while

 

[PatsFan1283]

I would say Coach CB could..... He fits about everything you have posted, outside of the Will to Live... which I'm sure he fits as well.

Yeah obviously don't know everyones background. Sure a few with the necessary training, background could.

We'll have to get him in this thread and ask him.

 

[Betallsports]

BAS

How much of the worlds population do you think could have survived that under the same exact conditions?

That could be the Hardest Question to answer to be honest with you.

A lot of Factors that you need to think about.

How do you really break it down ?? How many Very Good swimmers are out there ? Then you have athletic types... Doesn't mean they can swim well...
I Really couldn't put a number out there...

 

[Shub]

100k is being generous

 

[CHOPTALK]

Oh yea I'm not trying to say doing what he did in contest type format even compares to what Konrad did in his real life situation. That's as apples and oranges as you can get.

There are also other variables that I have not found out about yet that also changes things.

The story said high winds and rough seas.

Did not mention which direction the waves were going vs where he was heading.

If the waves were going against him that might explain why he took an indirect path to the shore.

If he did all this against a strong current in 25mph wind this is trully even more amazing if that's possible.

 

[Betallsports]

Yeah obviously don't know everyones background. Sure a few with the necessary training, background could.

We'll have to get him in this thread and ask him.

Agree would Love to get his point of view on this, for Sure

marathon guy ... military guy ... US Coast Guard and Firefighter .... Maybe he can, maybe he can't ... But Off the top of my head, he would be my pick

 

[PatsFan1283]

Oh yea I'm not trying to say doing what he did in contest type format even compares to what Konrad did in his real life situation. That's as apples and oranges as you can get.

There are also other variables that I have not found out about yet that also changes things.

The story said high winds and rough seas.

Did not mention which direction the waves were going vs where he was heading.

If the waves were going against him that might explain why he took an indirect path to the shore.

If he did all this against a strong current in 25mph wind this is trully even more amazing if that's possible.

Yeah who knows, the 27 miles basically came from Konrad himself I just read.

It is possible he swam a lot less than that. Still think the # would be like 50k or in that range though. Not near a million

 

[DNoonan]

crazy story....sure to be a movie at some point....i guess he was almost rescued twice...can you imagine seeing a helicopter almost find you when you have another 5 miles to swim?

i'd think a good pool of people that could potentially make that journey would be some of the surfers that ride pipeline and mavericks....have to have some serious endurance to get that good at surfing, be very comfortable in the water, know how to remain calm, be in good shape, etc.

i am afraid i would cramp up along the way

 

[PatsFan1283]

crazy story....sure to be a movie at some point....i guess he was almost rescued twice...can you imagine seeing a helicopter almost find you when you have another 5 miles to swim?

i'd think a good pool of people that could potentially make that journey would be some of the surfers that ride pipeline and mavericks....have to have some serious endurance to get that good at surfing, be very comfortable in the water, know how to remain calm, be in good shape, etc.

i am afraid i would cramp up along the way

Not sure how it would translate to the big screen. While it is a pretty incredible achievement, people don't really wanna watch a movie about strenuous exercise for 110 minutes.

I used to swim 3-4x a week but I'm afraid I'd have to just say "Guess I don't get to see how the NFL season ends" then close my eyes and let nature take its course.

 

[Stax]

Always wear your kill switch when alone. And Idk many ppl that go off shore alone...

 

[PatsFan1283]

Always wear your kill switch when alone. And Idk many ppl that go off shore alone...

Yeah definitely.

Really who knows the exact distance he traveled. Obviously if he says 27 the coast guard isn't gonna comeout and be like no that is BS it was more like 13.

 

[CHOPTALK]

crazy story....sure to be a movie at some point....i guess he was almost rescued twice...can you imagine seeing a helicopter almost find you when you have another 5 miles to swim?

i'd think a good pool of people that could potentially make that journey would be some of the surfers that ride pipeline and mavericks....have to have some serious endurance to get that good at surfing, be very comfortable in the water, know how to remain calm, be in good shape, etc.

i am afraid i would cramp up along the way

It just shows you how much these over water rescue missions are such a neadle in the hay stack kind of a deal.

The odds are so long it's crazy.
They actually flew over him twice and still never found him.

I wonder how many dead people would have been able to tell you that same story if they could.


Heck they still can't find a jet that fell out the sky over a year ago.