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Lane Kiffin rips Ariel Alejo

By Jason Lieser | Thursday, May 14, 2009, 01:42 PM



As of this afternoon, the Tennessee-Pahokee rift has no end in sight. In fact, things might actually be getting worse, if that’s possible.
Earlier this month, Pahokee principal Ariel Alejo informed Tennessee assistant coach Eddie Gran the Volunteers are not allowed on the school’s campus. Gran had been in Pahokee to offer a scholarship to junior Antonio Ford, a defensive tackle and offensive lineman.
Still upset by Kiffin’s derogatory remarks toward the Pahokee community, Alejo said Monday he will not permit Tennessee to visit the campus until head coach Lane Kiffin comes down to publicly apologize for his comments.
Pahokee head coach Blaze Thompson said there has been no progress this week in resolving the issue.
Alejo has not returned messages seeking comment this week, and Kiffin declined an opportunity to give his side of the situation to the Post.
However, Kiffin had no problem talking to VolQuest.com before he addressed the crowd at a publicity event in Cincinnati last night.
Kiffin reiterated that he has apologized to Thompson and has made attempts to reach Alejo and Pahokee Chamber of Commerce president Lewis Pope III, but then went on to take a jab at Alejo, who is a Florida graduate.
“Some people’s allegiances are to the college they graduated from,” Kiffin said.
Alejo is a Gators fan and even had a UF logo on his bio page until recently taking it down. Tennessee fans have attacked him all over the internet on blogs and message boards, accusing him of letting his collegiate loyalties affect his actions in this situation. It should be noted, though, that most of the people blasting Alejo appear to have their own bias. If we’re going to scrutinize Alejo’s choice in colleges, it is only fair to do the same to his accusers.
For Kiffin to say it, however, certainly will exacerbate the dispute.
“That’s asinine,” Thompson said Thursday, referring to Kiffin’s most recent comment. “It’s not the case. He does not begrudge anybody from another school because he’s a Florida fan. If it was Florida, he’d be getting the same pressure from the community.
“That’s just going to stir the fire.”
For his part, Alejo said Monday this issue is about the community, not him.
I know tempers are ablaze on all three sides of this problem (Pahokee’s, Tennessee’s and UF’s), but let’s step back for a second and look at this objectively. Eventually this thing has to end (right?), but how exactly is that going to happen?
“It needs to end,” Thompson said. “It’ll end when Tennessee does what they’re supposed to do.”
The options at this point look like this, in no particular order: 1. Kiffin concedes and flies down here, 2. Alejo backs down from his demand, 3. The school district intercedes and overrules Alejo, allowing the Vols on campus.
At this point, Option 2 is unfathomable. Right or wrong, Alejo seems to have painted himself into a corner and it’s unlikely he’s going to back off his original requirement of Kiffin coming down to a public meeting in Pahokee. Not many people back down once they get to this point.
Option 1 is hard to believe, too, although I wouldn’t rule it out. Like Kiffin or not, and I’m guessing most of our readers don’t, he’s got a pretty demanding job. Not a lot of major college coaches have time to devote to town hall meetings. Furthermore, Kiffin feels as though he has already apologized over and over. He’s not crazy. He apologized on ESPN, apologized to Thompson and apologized in this newspaper. Alejo and Pope say those apologies were directed only toward Thompson, not the community, students and school staff.
It’s hard to say how much Kiffin would gain by coming down here. On one hand, it would be a relatively small price to pay for what would probably be a gust of good p.r. all over the country. A college head coach from a major program coming down to a town of 6,000 people just to make things right? I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t do it, but something like that would get a lot of play on TV, the papers and the web.
The flipside, though, is Kiffin personally might not feel he needs to apologize and it doesn’t seem to be hurting Tennessee’s recruiting viability in Pahokee. The Vols have offered scholarships to six Blue Devils and none of them have said they are directly opposed to playing for Kiffin. Ford and wide receiver De’Joshua Johnson both said they’re open to Tennessee.
Don’t count on Option 3. School district spokesman Nat Harrington said Thursday the county’s policies “absolutely” stand behind Alejo.
“He’s protecting the school and the students, and that’s what we expect him to do,” Harrington said.
“In a situation like this, the principal is the authority on that campus. If he views that anyone is a disruption to his campus, the policy backs him up on that.”
Is it a disruption when Tennessee coaches come on campus?
“It’s already been a disruption, so of course an individual’s presence who made those comments was a disruption again,” Harrington said. “(Kiffin) has disrespected a school and the students by these comments and not taken them back.”
 

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Just an educated guess but it looks like I nailed it. (See post #4)
I'm not biased. Nobody west of the Rockies gives a rip about Tennessee.
 

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Just an educated guess but it looks like I nailed it. (See post #4)
I'm not biased. Nobody west of the Rockies gives a rip about Tennessee.


lol, thats my line

but according to Fox Business News. TN is the number 4 brand name in the nation

1) Ohio State
2) Florida
3) Texas
4) Tennessee
5) Michigan

so it looks like nobody west of the rockies cares about any college sports - even thier own teams


http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=289004&cl=13458954&src=finance&ch=1316259
 

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Bottom line, Kiffin shit where he was trying to sleep....


little update on this story :
this weekend there will be 13 players from Pahokee at the UT football camp.

THIRTEEN

those kids sure must love them some Kiffin shit
 

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Don't you remember Soonerbs, according to Crissy this is all part of Kiffins secret masterplan.


this is where i say i told you so...

recruiting is a game and Kiffin and his staff are the best in the world at that game

maybe he cant do x and o's? maybe he sucks on the sidelines? we will find all that out this fall. but hes a marketing genius even you must be able to see that now
 

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little update on this story :
this weekend there will be 13 players from Pahokee at the UT football camp.

THIRTEEN

those kids sure must love them some Kiffin shit


ill go as far as to predict in 4 years there are more Vols from Pahokee than Gators. Lane Kiffin is like a rock star there.
 

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this is where i say i told you so...

recruiting is a game and Kiffin and his staff are the best in the world at that game

maybe he cant do x and o's? maybe he sucks on the sidelines? we will find all that out this fall. but hes a marketing genius even you must be able to see that now


Ah the koolaid drinker is back to tell us all how great Kiffin is. If I were you I would hold off on the hosannahs until Lane actually bags a qb.

I do remember that quote from you proclaiming that Heaps would be a VOL. I guess coming in third place to football powerhouse's BYU and UW didn't sway your opinion of Lane's recruiting prowess.
Vols holding out for elite quarterbacks

Several top prospects Tennessee wanted at the key position have committed elsewhere.

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** FILE ** In this Dec. 20, 2008, file photo, Lane Kiffin speaks at a news conference on in Knoxville, Tenn. Kiffin was reprimanded by the Southeastern Conference on Thursday, Feb. 5, 2009, for falsely accusing Florida coach Urban Meyer of a recruiting violation, and the new Volunteers' coach has apologized for his remarks. (AP Photo/Wade Payne, file)

<!-- /inline-photo --> KNOXVILLE -- Even a potentially dire circumstance at quarterback hasn't changed the recruiting standards for Tennessee's new football coaching staff.
The Volunteers are the only Southeastern Conference program with no quarterbacks still enrolled from the last three signing classes, and they have none publicly committed for 2010.
But impressive roster numbers don't mean anything "if you don't have good players," UT assistant head coach and recruiting coordinator Ed Orgeron said recently.
"If you sign a kid who can't play, then you're sitting there for five years stuck with a kid who can't play," he added. "That's not how we're going to do things."
The Vols coaches are sticking with that philosophy despite a potentially large pothole -- one that widened when 2007 signee B.J. Coleman from Chattanooga left the program after spring practice.
Tennessee's 2008 quarterback signee, Casey Kelly, decided to play professional baseball after receiving a hefty signing bonus from the Boston Red Sox. This year's class once had two quarterback commitments, but new head coach Lane Kiffin informed Texas standout Bryce Petty and Virginia All-American Tajh Boyd that their talents -- though legitimate -- didn't fit UT's new scheme.
That all left the Vols with just two scholarship quarterbacks for this season: senior Jonathan Crompton and fourth-year junior Nick Stephens. Former professional baseball pitcher Mike Rozier has arrived on campus as a walk-on, but the big left-hander is undoubtedly a question mark.
One Vol recently joked that his quarterback teammates will get "plenty of one-on-one coaching ... even more than usual.
"Because there aren't many people in that meeting room," the player added.
Coaches hope the bright side of UT's lack of quarterback depth will be a favorable recruiting situation. Premier players at that position are often some of the first to commit, because schools take only one or two quarterbacks a year, and elite skill position players often follow the top passers.
"It's definitely something you look at," Vols wide receiver Gerald Jones said. "If you're going to play receiver or running back -- or anywhere on offense, really -- you want to know what quarterbacks are there, and what quarterbacks are coming in with you. Everybody knows how important that position is."
Many of the nation's top recruiting analysts consider this a down year for quarterbacks, though, and some of the Vols' top targets have committed elsewhere.
Blake Bell, Phillip Sims and Jake Heaps, three quarterbacks to whom UT quickly made offers, committed to Oklahoma, Alabama and BYU. Nick Montana, Joe's son, never received a firm Vols offer but recently went off their board by committing to Washington.
Coaches are forbidden by the NCAA to comment on unsigned prospects, but the Vols are known to be in the mix for several other quarterbacks across the country. California's Jesse Scroggins, Cincinnati's Andrew Hendrix, Louisiana's Munchie Legeaux and most recently Memphis' Barry Brunetti also reportedly have received UT offers.
Another Californian -- Chase Rettig -- has stayed in contact with the Vols and might get an offer. Assistant coaches have scoured several states, most noticeably California and Florida, to scout passing prospects.
Hendrix gave the Vols glowing remarks following an early-summer trip to Knoxville, but he told IrishIllustrated.com this week that he considered committing to Notre Dame during a recent visit to the school.
"I was blown away," he told the Web site. "(But) I have to let my head settle down before I make a decision. I'm not 100 percent on Notre Dame yet; obviously it sounds like I am."
Scroggins, an athletic pocket passer with "lots of family" in Memphis, is set to visit Knoxville later this summer and has consistently placed UT and Florida near the top of his list.
Brunetti, more of a dual-threat quarterback at about 6 feet tall, clearly was pleased with his recent offer for several reasons. The Vols have "always been my favorite team," he said before commenting on the depth chart.
"Obviously, Tennessee probably one of the best situations out there right now," he said. "They just don't have that many (quarterbacks) right now."
UT coaches would like to land two quarterbacks in this class. Former Vols offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe, like most coaches, preferred to sign one quarterback in every class.
"You know me, I'll take as many of them as I can get," Cutcliffe said two years ago, just before leaving for the head coaching position at Duke. "But you feel pretty good if you can get one good one every year."
 

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this is where i say i told you so...

recruiting is a game and Kiffin and his staff are the best in the world at that game

maybe he cant do x and o's? maybe he sucks on the sidelines? we will find all that out this fall. but hes a marketing genius even you must be able to see that now

Are you out of your mind? Kiffin is not the best at anything. Show me where Tennessee out recruited Alabama, LSU, USC, Texas, Georgia, UCLA, Ohio State or many other teams that I can mention. Show me the great QB Kiffin got to lead this group of losers.

How many times do I have to tell you to get off the cheap moonshine? Are you begging to get your tail kicked in here? Are you one of those fools that loves to go out of his way to cause trouble? Why don't you just post on a Tennessee website, homer. Nobody wants you in here. This site is for serious players, not homers like yourself.
 

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They listed all those guys as famous natives so they have a problem with being up front themselves. Sounded way too good to be true.

They are all from that area. It's not "too good to be true." Belle Glades and Pahokee are crosstown rivals. Every year they play in the "Muck Bowl". They all chase rabbits through sugar canes, etc.

Anyway, Florida usually pulls kids out of Belle Glades. (Fred Taylor, Reidel Anthony, Deonte Thompson) and FSU has traditionally pulled kids out of Pahokee. But, they have had some success getting Belle Glades kids, too. Jannoris Jenkins, Class of 08 and starting CB at Florida, was the first recruit signed by Florida in 25 years from Pahokee. So, no, there is no UF bias in Pahokee....actually, they used to be anti-UF but Urban spent a lot of time down there and Jenkins changed that. Nukeese was going to be the second in what Florida fans and coaches hoped to be a new pipeline to a talent rich community. Credit Lane Kiffin to stealing Nukeese from us by telling him they would use him like Percy Harvin and we wouldnt. (because he's ever had Percy??) I think Andre Debose also had something to do with that but no Tennessee fan will ever admit that.
 

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