I have been told that they are exactly the same company. The main difference being that Indobetonline.com is only post-up and has an official license. They will start advertising on ESPN, etc. soon. Their UK company is called pacificsportsclub.com. These guys are doing a nice job globalising by means of buying up others or creating new shops. With a bit of luck they will soon be the real market leaders and make all scalping and middling something of the past!