Boys if you dont puke when u read this you dont play poker!!!!!!!!!! SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck can i keep getting this close and get BULLSHIT like this EVERY MFR'N TIME??????????????????????? just got to 4th in chips with 7 left and then this screw job......im telling you im just born to fuckin lose......im changing my name to black cloud overhead............
#Game No : 4084807246
***** Hand History for Game 4084807246 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:22603718 Level:19 Blinds-Antes(15000/30000-700) - Tuesday, April 25, 00:19:10 ET 2006
Table Regular(673205) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: allynlong ( $444967 )
Seat 4: robaine ( $485230 )
Seat 5: aceserve22 ( $735576 )
Seat 6: Zibbe12 ( $54172 )
Seat 7: MudJack ( $952222 )
Seat 9: wolfys ( $166918 )
Seat 10: poopy567 ( $424915 )
Trny:22603718 Level:19
Blinds-Antes(15000/30000-700)
allynlong posts ante [700].
robaine posts ante [700].
aceserve22 posts ante [700].
Zibbe12 posts ante [700].
MudJack posts ante [700].
wolfys posts ante [700].
poopy567 posts ante [700].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to allynlong [ Qs 4c ]
MudJack folds.
wolfys folds.
poopy567 folds.
allynlong calls [30000].
robaine folds.
aceserve22 calls [15000].
Zibbe12 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Qd, 4s ]
aceserve22 bets [30000].
allynlong raises [166842].
aceserve22 raises [273684].
allynlong is all-In [247425]
aceserve22 calls [110583].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
aceserve22 shows [ 8s, Qh ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
allynlong shows [ Qs, 4c ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
aceserve22 wins 923434 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sevens with eight kicker.
Player allynlong finished in 7 place
#Game No : 4084807246
***** Hand History for Game 4084807246 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:22603718 Level:19 Blinds-Antes(15000/30000-700) - Tuesday, April 25, 00:19:10 ET 2006
Table Regular(673205) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: allynlong ( $444967 )
Seat 4: robaine ( $485230 )
Seat 5: aceserve22 ( $735576 )
Seat 6: Zibbe12 ( $54172 )
Seat 7: MudJack ( $952222 )
Seat 9: wolfys ( $166918 )
Seat 10: poopy567 ( $424915 )
Trny:22603718 Level:19
Blinds-Antes(15000/30000-700)
allynlong posts ante [700].
robaine posts ante [700].
aceserve22 posts ante [700].
Zibbe12 posts ante [700].
MudJack posts ante [700].
wolfys posts ante [700].
poopy567 posts ante [700].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to allynlong [ Qs 4c ]
MudJack folds.
wolfys folds.
poopy567 folds.
allynlong calls [30000].
robaine folds.
aceserve22 calls [15000].
Zibbe12 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Qd, 4s ]
aceserve22 bets [30000].
allynlong raises [166842].
aceserve22 raises [273684].
allynlong is all-In [247425]
aceserve22 calls [110583].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
aceserve22 shows [ 8s, Qh ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
allynlong shows [ Qs, 4c ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
aceserve22 wins 923434 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sevens with eight kicker.
Player allynlong finished in 7 place
Tough one, I went today in the 35k on Party, which is a $109, it had 668 players with KK all in pf vs JJ. It was a 70k pot(avg was 30k at time), we were in the money already. He hit running diamonds to make the flush. I was sick. I played a bunch of tourneys today gearing up for the 2p2 MTT May Team Challenge in which I'm a captain. I'm currently 5th in chips w/ 155 left(started with 2247) in the $20k Guaranteed, which is a $3 rebuy.
I'm currently 5th in chips w/ 155 left(started with 2247) in the $20k Guaranteed, which is a $3 rebuy.
Im watchin your midas touched ass. AK every other hand...lol
gearing up for the 2p2 MTT May Team Challenge in which I'm a captain.
Wish i had known about it, well probably wouldnt do any good im banned from the MTT forum over there.I'd trade a WSOP seat for a shot at that lying cheating moderator whos running that contest. Be careful playing in his contests for real money he's known to change the rules to fit how he wants things to go...........<!-- / message -->
Im watchin your midas touched ass. AK every other hand...lol
gearing up for the 2p2 MTT May Team Challenge in which I'm a captain.
Wish i had known about it, well probably wouldnt do any good im banned from the MTT forum over there.I'd trade a WSOP seat for a shot at that lying cheating moderator whos running that contest. Be careful playing in his contests for real money he's known to change the rules to fit how he wants things to go...........<!-- / message -->
I don't want to put out no names here, but said moderator ran a contest with a qualifying tourny to get in as an alternate......i pd my money finished i dunno 4th or 5th in the contest. as original players dropped out he took the next finisher in the contest .until it got to me, then suddeny he changed the rules to add his buddies......when i complained to him in a private message he decided to impune me on the public forum. At which point again in a PM i told him how far id put my foot up his ass if i ever met him. then he ran to MS crying i threatened him and i agreed not to post in the MTT as long as he's a mod in exchange for not being banned from the entire site, which by the way ive never posted at again anyway.......just shows what an ahole he is that my discussions were via PM while he berates me in public.
I dream of catching him in the 1 mill guar and raising his BB every hand then when he plays back with AA i crack him and eliminate him with 35os....lol
I dream of catching him in the 1 mill guar and raising his BB every hand then when he plays back with AA i crack him and eliminate him with 35os....lol
Depending on how tight the blinds are, you may considering raising this hand preflop in order to steal the blinds. Just calling with this hand preflop is just horrible though. You were very fortunate to flop 2 pair against a hand that dominated you preflop and unfortunate that the river paired the board. This does not make me puke though, because your opponent had 9 outs to beat you going into the river (not an extraordinary beat).
Guess a few guys here like to talk out there ass....i was expecting someone to ask why i made such a play. first off i was 1 from the button and the table was playing extremely tight as at this point every place was paying like 120.00 more than the 1 before it....Also the BB was gone, he was on post blind and fold and hadn't played a hand since before we got to the final table....meaning i was in this hand against the small blind only who could have any hand, if he raised PF i fold and lose nothing,if he calls i have the chance to beat him on the flop....JUST CALLING means (to him) i have some kind of hand , maybe JT,Ax, as tight as the table was playing at this point there was no reason at all to think i wasnt setting a trap with KK or AA for that matter.....which makes the the move of him calling my reraise even dumber....How could he possibly think i couldnt beat Q8 kicker after i just raised him 130,000 ?????? 9 outs????? you count 9 outs going into the turn????? hell no! you count 9 outs total AFTER the hand played out.....how many outs does he have if say a 2 or an A comes on the turn????? yea your right the same number he had any right to think he had when he called my re-raise.....3! I didnt need to steal blinds at this point i needed to see a flop , make a hand , induce a bluff then go for a big pot. if i dont hit 2 pr and he bets 30,000 then i reraise him maybe 60,000.he raises me again im folding Q4.....as fast as id fold Q8!!!!!!
I think i played this perfectly, got into the exact position i wanted to get into, then got unbelievably unlucky to lose the hand......if Matt or Bozzi want to come in and tell me different then ill accept it.....as for the rest of you guys this made 5 straight sub 30 plc finishes in a row on weeknights.with a 2nd and and a 7th to show for it. i must be doing something right.
I think i played this perfectly, got into the exact position i wanted to get into, then got unbelievably unlucky to lose the hand......if Matt or Bozzi want to come in and tell me different then ill accept it.....as for the rest of you guys this made 5 straight sub 30 plc finishes in a row on weeknights.with a 2nd and and a 7th to show for it. i must be doing something right.
I have to say I would have lost all my chips on this hand too. Calling with Q4 on a head to head is fine, I call with anything and raise with anything better than average.
You've got to raise him on the flop here and with 2 pair you've got to call his reraise which even on a tight table he'd make with AQ or KQ head to head and to see Q8 is just a bonus. You raise him partly to protect yourself against the board pairing if he does have Qx.
Your raise was exactly right to tempt him to think you're bluffing or seim-bluffing and put himself all-in. If you go all-in he's going to fold Q8 unless he's a weak player or not thinking straight.
If he's flopped a set good luck to him, H2H you're going to give him all your chips and so be it.
You've got to raise him on the flop here and with 2 pair you've got to call his reraise which even on a tight table he'd make with AQ or KQ head to head and to see Q8 is just a bonus. You raise him partly to protect yourself against the board pairing if he does have Qx.
Your raise was exactly right to tempt him to think you're bluffing or seim-bluffing and put himself all-in. If you go all-in he's going to fold Q8 unless he's a weak player or not thinking straight.
If he's flopped a set good luck to him, H2H you're going to give him all your chips and so be it.
correction
Correction, at the point he went all-in he did not have the 7s as outs. If I had played his Q-8 like this I would have considered my play as an error even though I won the hand. I record errors per tournament and this would be at least 0.5 of one, depending on how entitled I was to regard PPP as a speculative player.
With Q-8 his bet on the flop should be seen as a probe bet. Has PPP got anything? A lot of strong players would limp in with QQ, KQ, AQ when it is head to head, I limp these 2/3 of the time and raise them 1/3 against normal opposition H2H.
PPP then comes over the top with a medium raise and the Q-8 guy has to be a supreme optimist or picked PPP as a risky bluffer to consider he has the best of things on the flop. He is a big dog against two pair, and almost any hand with a Q in it which PPP was raising with.
Correction, at the point he went all-in he did not have the 7s as outs. If I had played his Q-8 like this I would have considered my play as an error even though I won the hand. I record errors per tournament and this would be at least 0.5 of one, depending on how entitled I was to regard PPP as a speculative player.
With Q-8 his bet on the flop should be seen as a probe bet. Has PPP got anything? A lot of strong players would limp in with QQ, KQ, AQ when it is head to head, I limp these 2/3 of the time and raise them 1/3 against normal opposition H2H.
PPP then comes over the top with a medium raise and the Q-8 guy has to be a supreme optimist or picked PPP as a risky bluffer to consider he has the best of things on the flop. He is a big dog against two pair, and almost any hand with a Q in it which PPP was raising with.
mmm
In fact about the only conceivable hand the Q-8 guys all-in move made sense with was if PPP held 7-5 on a straight draw with 8 outs. He's getting roughly 2.2 to 1 from the pot when he really needs 2.9 to 1, so in this specific case the all-in move from Q-8 was correct.
I'm assuming here that PPP's play up to this point more or less ruled out a pair of 6s or 4s, so far in PPP's posts there is nothing to suggest he would raise with such a weak hand against a tight player betting out a flop.
The raise from Q-8 makes sense if he is entitled to think there's a decent chance PPP is bluffing (perhaps with overcards), on 5-7 or on a low pair. But most players are not going to put half their chips into the pot in the normally very careful later stages on such hands against a tight player.
In fact about the only conceivable hand the Q-8 guys all-in move made sense with was if PPP held 7-5 on a straight draw with 8 outs. He's getting roughly 2.2 to 1 from the pot when he really needs 2.9 to 1, so in this specific case the all-in move from Q-8 was correct.
I'm assuming here that PPP's play up to this point more or less ruled out a pair of 6s or 4s, so far in PPP's posts there is nothing to suggest he would raise with such a weak hand against a tight player betting out a flop.
The raise from Q-8 makes sense if he is entitled to think there's a decent chance PPP is bluffing (perhaps with overcards), on 5-7 or on a low pair. But most players are not going to put half their chips into the pot in the normally very careful later stages on such hands against a tight player.
ProPokerPlayer said:
OK, you didn't mention in your first post that the bb is on autofold. I now understand your reasoning for just calling rather then raising pf and seeing a flop in position without committing a substantial portion of your stack (although I hate the play if the BB is not on autofold). Personally I prefer to still try a steal raise and see if I can take it down preflop, if I get called then I still get to see a flop and maybe hit.
I also completely agree with your raise on the flop and in no way criticized your flop play. I didn't say your opponent was correct to call either, if he was a good player he would of probably found a better spot to get all of his money in, and I never said that it was correct for him to call on a draw because he had X number of outs. What I was implying is that this is not a huge beat so get over it. (You weren't 2,3 or even 4 outed here). This is in the category of beats that happen all the time when all the money goes in on the flop and one player is reverse dominated and goes on to outdraw. BIG DEAL!!!
Also, please stop assuming that your opponents are all thinking players who are going to put you on AA or KK when you just limp pf when the blinds are big. Even the players who make it deep in these tournaments often suck, and as you can see, many of them are unable to get away from top pair no kicker even when the action should show them that there is a great chance they are beat.
You want a real beat, here is one from the final table last night in a Party $20 5 table tournament. We were 8 handed, I was third in chips with T13,000 and had the villain slightly covered. Blinds were 600-1200
Preflop: Villain calls, I call with KTs ( I would of raised if it was folded to me), button calls, blinds call. Pot = T6000
Flop: ATT no suits, checked to me, I bet T2000, all fold except villain calls. Pot = T10,000
Turn: 6, check, I bet T5000, villain calls.
River J, check, I bet my last T5000, villain calls and takes it down with KQ.
:nohead:
really bad one
I don't really like to post my bad beats but I had a new PB at the weekend.
I am third with 3 players all about 2,000 chips and six left, no-one else above 1,000
I raise pre-flop with AA and get one caller from the bottom 3. The flop is A-8-2 rainbow and he puts in a half-pot bet into me. I reraise him the pot and he goes all in and calls me with 2-3 offsuit.
The inevitable then happens and he gets 2-2 runner to take down that pot.
I don't really like to post my bad beats but I had a new PB at the weekend.
I am third with 3 players all about 2,000 chips and six left, no-one else above 1,000
I raise pre-flop with AA and get one caller from the bottom 3. The flop is A-8-2 rainbow and he puts in a half-pot bet into me. I reraise him the pot and he goes all in and calls me with 2-3 offsuit.
The inevitable then happens and he gets 2-2 runner to take down that pot.
No i agree thats far from the worst suckout ive ever seen, what made it so bad was i was 4th in chips with 7 left and the differance between what i got for 7th and what 1st pd was over 2 g's.....and i know thats not really a big deal to a lot of players either but as a lot of posters here know im 1 broke SOB! 2 grand right now would mean as much to me as another 2 million to raymer,hell probably more........i really cant say the guy made a bad play i guess, but we had been through the last 3 tables together and im pretty sure he knew i was the tightest player in the game.....i seriously could not believe he called my reraise, not because more times than not against a random player his hand would be good but i cant believe he didnt figure he had been trapped and put me on AA or KK........i really think he just said screw it either he's bluffing or ill take 7th plc money, im sure 7th plc money would have been a welcome addition to his bankroll, not me though. i was smelling a top 3 finish and was just really upset that once again it was denied me...and just for the record the 2nd plc finish id had a few nights before was in a 7 card tourny that didnt have near this prize pool and actually 2nd pd less there than i got for 7th in this 1.....
Probably the 20k guaranteed although 1 night i did play a $33 mtt when i got in to late the catch the 20k......i play that 20k every night when possible, best value on the net i think for 11 bucks. for some reason i have MUCH better luck in it than the 40k although the players are usually the same people........
