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yes, market is open and down tonight, looks like i may get filled on a short in the overnight at 856.25..

i play a:

13pt system

short term system

both are doing extrmely well... the short term trade is just after the big board opens at (8:30 am cst), the 13pt system is a little complicated but id be glad to go over it... they are both totally mechanical..

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yes, market is open and down tonight, looks like i may get filled on a short in the overnight at 856.25..

i play a:

13pt system

short term system

both are doing extrmely well... the short term trade is just after the big board opens at (8:30 am cst), the 13pt system is a little complicated but id be glad to go over it... they are both totally mechanical..

SSI

What's this system that you're playing SSI?
 

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do you know anything about (trading the emini sp 500) or any commodity?

be glad to tell you about it but need to know where to start...

i have traded off and on for 13yrs........ the last year has been a total switch to only one market (the emini sp 500)....

if your really interested, you can do a google search and read up on it a little...

this market is open from 6:00 pm cst sunday evening to 3:15 pm friday afternoon, only closing daily from 3:15 to 3:30 to settle the books..

market is currently down in the overnights, not reacting well to "not passing" the stimulus package this weekend..

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here is the update for monday Feb 9

Fade the 5 Game (O/U) streak: 40-0 (4 pending) (+40.00 units)

plays for monday Feb 9

Fade 40
b) Clippers Under

Fade 45
a) Hornets Under

we still have (Spurs, Knicks, Wizards) all Under pending and all 3 are ready for Play (b) 2nd game, when they play again.




Fade the 7 Game (ATS) streak: 19-0 (+19.00 units) (0 pending)

no plays for monday...



for record keeping, CLOSING LINE at covers, will be used..

good luck

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do you know anything about (trading the emini sp 500) or any commodity?

be glad to tell you about it but need to know where to start...

i have traded off and on for 13yrs........ the last year has been a total switch to only one market (the emini sp 500)....

if your really interested, you can do a google search and read up on it a little...

this market is open from 6:00 pm cst sunday evening to 3:15 pm friday afternoon, only closing daily from 3:15 to 3:30 to settle the books..

market is currently down in the overnights, not reacting well to "not passing" the stimulus package this weekend..

SSI

I have no idea, but would like to be the next Bobby Valentine :103631605.
How does this work and what do you personally trade?
 

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i now trade 2 systems:

13pt System: 5-6 (+17pts) over my last 11 trades.

currently long from 865.75

this is a systemt that ive done really well with since last summer... it is a little complicated, so i better not really get into it right now..

i trade only 1 Market (The Emini SP 500 Market).... if your truly interested, just do a search on that... it will give you a load of information...


my other system could truly be one that i can retire on... it is based on the daily range and opening range... i do one trade per day....

i started trading this one with real money 5 trading days ago.... i play to make (+2.75pts), while risking (6pts)...... if i can maintain a 5:1 winning ratio over the long haul, i can retire and do nothing else, its that good.. My trades usually last only minutes..

Short Term Trades: 5-0 (+13.75pts)

todays trade was a Buy (Long) at 868.25, i cashed out just minutes later at 871.00...... took all of maybe 5 minutes and im done for the day with that....

its $50 per pt, per contract that you trade (- your comm)...

you do a little digging and show me some real interest and id help you all you want.... i just hate to write a tremendously long post, for people that are not really interested...

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if you guys really only knew, what this was all about, you would almost forget sports wagering...

more money than you can imagine is right at your fingertips, if we only knew how to get it..

I trade the Emini SP 500 futures market.. this is all that i trade now.

turn your TV to CNBC, look at the top left hand side and see the box marked (SP).... that is the cash price of the SP 500 market.. i trade the futures price but they are close to the same... For every point that the emini sp goes up or down, i make or lose $50, per contract that i hold.. I can either buy or sell first (Go Long or Go Short).... It is not unlimited loss, as i trade with automatic stoplosses placed in the market at all times..

do a little digging and ill help all that i can...

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SSI, thanks for the breif info on your trading system. I will do some research and will have shit load of questions for you...haha. Hell, if you can retire on your system, sign me up. So you trade the SP 500, predict how many points it will go up? If SP 500 goes up 20pts, 20 x $50 per point = $1000.
 
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SSI, I just read some intro info on the emini sp 500, you have to have money in the account and maintance a mini in there, it's a like a margin account.
 

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sea, i know all about that..

but dont put the cart before the horse..


i wanted you to learn (what the emini is), (how it trades), (where it trades), (when it trades)....

dont worry about trading it with real money right now...

figure out what it is............... then we can talk about Paper Trading it...

then i would suggest (1-6) months of Paper Trading, depending on how quick you caught on.....

right now the emini dominates my thinking, when it comes to working or making money...

i know exactly where its at,,,,,,,, at all times.... i have a saying "I live in the Emini"......


i never meant for you to start trading tomorrow........ i was more inclined to wanting to "teach someone", pass along what was passed to me several years ago...

im at the point of starting to make alot of money with this...... just wanted to pass it along to perhaps a few students, with no strings attached...

go study some more, answer my questions from above.... then we talk, ill be out until 8:00 pm cst tonight....

so good luck with the study and the games...

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SSI, I appreciate you accepting students and passing on your profitable system. You've just got yourself a student here. Off to do some research...bbl.
 

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Wow, I do the same O/U chase system. I have mine setup in a spread sheet if any1 is interested. BOL to every1 that follows.
 

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thanks SSI for the info, i am going to read up on this tonight. As a complete newb to this form of trading- where should i start?
 

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found this from a google search, first result:

http://www.usafutures.com/eminisp500.htm


Advantages of Trading Mini S&P 500 Futures and Options

Trading Mini S&P 500 futures and options offers investors several distinct advantages:

# Exposure -- Investors can have exposure to the U.S. stock market via the world's leading stock index. Although there are many indexes, some very popular, the S&P 500 has the most closely watched, actively traded and liquid of all futures products based on a stock index.

# Affordability -- The enormous appeal of the standard S&P 500 futures has caused the contract to grow beyond the reach of many investors. New Mini S&P 500 contracts allow investors to trade this benchmark index at a fraction of the cost. Mini S&P 500 futures will require much less margin than the standard S&P 500 futures.

# Opportunity -- These new contracts provide a variety of investment opportunities, such as: increasing or hedging portfolio exposure; spreading against other CME index products such as the S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, Russell 2000 and/or S&P MidCap 400, a cost-efficient way to benefit from rising or falling equity markets.

# Integrity -- CME customers and members are protected from default on futures and options contracts by the Exchange's sophisticated risk management and surveillance techniques. The CME Clearing House acts as the guarantor to each of its clearing members, thus ensuring the integrity of all trades. The CME system has proven to be outstandingly effective, even under the most stressful market conditions.

The CME is The Index Exchange, with more than 95% market share of all domestically traded stock index futures and options on futures. Open interest in the CME's index complex totals in excess of $93 billion, making it the world's most liquid trading environment for stock index products.


What, Exactly, Are Mini S&P 500 Futures?

Mini S&P 500 futures are legally binding agreements to buy or sell the cash value of the S&P 500 Index at a specific future date. The contracts are valued at $50 x the futures price. For example, if the Mini S&P 500 futures price is at 920.00, the value of the contract is $46,000 ($50 x 920.00).

The minimum price movement of the futures or options contracts is called a "tick." The tick value is .25 index points, or $12.50 per contract. This means that if the futures contract moves the minimum price increment (one tick), say, from 920.00 to 920.25, a long (buying) position would be credited $12.50; a short (selling) position would be debited $12.50. All futures positions (and all short option positions) require posting of a performance bond (or margin). Positions are marked-to-the-market daily. Additional deposits into the margin account may be required beyond the initial amount if your position moves against you. (For an explanation of the mechanics of, and requirements for, futures and options trading at the CME, contact your broker.)

Mini S&P 500 contracts are cash settled, just like the standard S&P 500; there is no delivery of the individual stocks. Even better, Mini S&P 500 daily settlements and quarterly expirations will use the exact same price as the S&P 500. The same daily settlement prices allow Mini contracts to benefit from the liquidity of the S&P 500 futures.

Like the S&P 500, which is settled using a Special Opening Quotation (SOQ), all Mini S&P 500 positions are settled in cash to the same Special Opening Quotation on the third Friday of the quarterly contract month. What is the Special Opening Quotation, or SOQ, as it is often called? The final settlement price is an SOQ of the S&P 500 Index based on the opening prices of the component stocks in the Index, or on the last sale price of a stock that does not open for trading on the regularly scheduled day of final settlement.


Trading the Mini S&P 500 -- An Example

Let's say you are an individual investor who is bullish on the stock market. You have been following daily activity in financial newspapers and on financial news stations. You want to become involved in the stock market; however, you have only around $10,000 to invest. You see every day in the newspaper that the market, as tracked by the S&P 500, is moving, and you want to be a part of it. You have traded stocks before, but you've decided that being a stock picker is too difficult and time consuming. You also realize that you would have to limit your investment to just one or two individual stocks. Or, you could buy a mutual fund; however, that only allows you to value your assets based on the closing price each day, thus losing the trading opportunity within the day.

You might instead consider going long Mini S&P 500 futures contracts to profit from your bullish outlook. Up to this point, S&P 500 futures have been out of your reach, with the minimum requirement to put up far exceeding your total planned investment. Here's your opportunity. New Mini S&P 500 contracts allow you to put your investment dollars to work by purchasing Mini S&P 500 futures. Now you can participate in the leading stock index futures market at a fraction of the cost.


Mini S&P 500 -- The E-Mini
Futures & Options Contract Highlights

Mini S&P 500 Futures Mini S&P 500 Options on Futures
Ticker Symbol ES Calls: ES
Puts: ES
Contract Size $50 x Index One Mini S&P 500 futures Contract
Tick Size .25 index points
($12.50 per contract) .25 index points
($12.50 per contract)
Trading Hours 24-hour trading, except
3:15 p.m. - 3:30 p.m. (Chicago Time) Monday - Thursday
3:15 p.m. Friday - 5:00 p.m. Sunday
Contract Months March, June, September, December All 12 Calendar months (The underlying instrument for the three monthly option expirations within a quarter is the quarter-end futures contract.)
Last Day of Trading Trading can occur up to 8:30 a.m. (Chicago Time) on the third Friday of the contract month March, June, September, December:
Same date as underlying futures contract
Other eight months:
The third friday of the contract month
Strike Intervals Not Applicable 5-point intervals for two nearest contracts, 10-point intervals for deferred months

Quarterly Futures & Options Settlement Procedures:
Cash settlement. All open positions at the close of the final trading day are settled in cash to the Special Opening Quotation on Friday morning of the S&P 500 Index.

Contract specifications subject to change without notice. Check with your broker to confirm this information.

This information has been compiled for general information purposes only. Although every attempt has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information, Commodity Futures Trading Corp. assumes no responsibilities for any errors or omissions. All matters pertaining to rules and specifications herein are made subject to and are superseded by official Chicago Mercantile Exchange rules. Current CME Rules should be consulted in all cases concerning contract specifications.
 

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MONDAY 2/9/09
CLIPPERS UNDER (to win 2.1 units)
HORNETS UNDER (to win 1 unit)


PENDING
SPURS UNDER(GM2)
KNICKS UNDER(GM2)
WIZZARDS UNDER(GM2)
 

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i'm starting my research too --- have done a little bit of trading but not emini -- anxious to learn. thanx SSI
 

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sorry guys, just got in tonight and have little time...

i trade 2 emini systems..... one is simply a One Trade Per day, day trade system... the other is a bit more complicated and i call it the 13pt system... ill get into talking about them more later, as im tired tonight...

my 13pt system has had 2 straight losing trades and is (5-7) (+9pts) over the last 12 trades...

currently short from 860.00, profit target 845.00, stoploss/reverse order is now located at 864.75....... last trade 854.00...

this market trades almost around the clock from (6 pm cst) sunday evening until 3:15 pm friday afternoon........ with only a break from 3:15 to 3:30 daily to settle the books...

more later...

clippers Under 197.5 to win $105 tonight.

hornets Under 186 to win $50...

looks like that is what i have this evening..

have a good one, back tomorrow morning..

SSI
 

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