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Gentlemen, welcome.
This is the HONDO (nypost) and MR.A (sportsrumble) fade thread. I dont give a shit about MLB, games, pitching stats, bullpens, etc. Don't even like baseball.
I analyzed 2.5 years of PAST data of HONDO. Anything can and will happen this year, so proceed with caution.
NOTE: NO GUARANTEES WHATSOEVER THIS THREAD WILL MAKE PROFIT.
Here is how this thread and games will be graded/decided:

1) Fade all hondo's plays FOR FLAT UNITS, regardless of what units he releases.
2) If hondo plays a dog that is getting +150 or more in your book, FADE WITH RUN LINE TAKING FAVE. (ex. Hondo "dodgers +160, you take PHIILIES -1.5 +120
Yes, you occasionally got dicked with your team winning by 1 run, but a lot of the times you saved huge juice because team lost outright, or even got better than even money due to your team winning by 2+.

3) For the limited data I have of Mr.A, thanks to Fgators thread for last year, he seemed to peak for faders first 2 months, primarily due to dogs covering early, as is usually the case. Mr. A takes faves almost all the time, be prepared to take a whole bunch of shitty teams and shitty pitchers.
4) Mr.A's games only one rule modification: Do not fade anything that requires you to take -130 or greater. (Ex. Mr. A padres+130, You, Rockies -150 no play.)

This is my thread, so I posted my rules. Feel free to open one of your own, or do what you think is best. IMO this is best chance to win max $$. I spent 2 weeks dissecting the Mr.A thread at RX, and the HONDO data from scamdicappers.com

Since everyone has different books/lines, just shop around. Sometimes its gonna be I have +155 so I have to take -1.5, whereas your book may peak at +148 so you fade at taking fave at -163 or whatever. I am grading ALL plays on the line and wager I made.

I am fading hondo for $100/game, and Mr.A for 40%, or $40/game.
I will post FADE play only, what you should be playing, which will be opposite of these fools.

Good luck and brace yourselves.
 

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ALL plays are listed pitchers for me. If listed pitchers do not start, no action.

We have 1 play today. Remember, I only list team we are taking, and "capper" in parenthesis giving play.
play in BOLD is final for record keeping, unless game canceled, or any listed pitcher doesn't start.

(HONDO) cardinals +170 =100 to win 170.
(Mr. A) no play listed.
 

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Nice start, I feel like I should add Benjamin Lee Eckstein from the NY Daily News into my system somehow since Johnny Guild doesn't do baseball. Benjamin Lee is the same as these two, all chalk, all the time. He had a year where he won like 65% of his games and still lost last year. The prior year he won 55% and got massacred. I am hoping that he is unable to duplicate his win percentage of last year while playing all chalk again.
 

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I need to gather data on him. I checked across the hall at sbr and wasnt impressed. Was up or down a few units late last season if I read correctly.
I'll stick with these two, if MR.A even shows up. Hondo seems very good fade material based on history. I am fading very hard especially first 2 months, I suggest all that fade do so as well. Last 2 years April/May are his worst months BY FAR.

YTD: +1.7 units

Today: (Mr.A) seems to still be bangin Gina While Jonny Guild is wackin it in the corner of the room, no plays up.
(HONDO) METS 100 to win 103. SD Padres 100 to win 142.
 

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Yeah, I have no idea what is going on with that site. I was thinking it would be crazy to believe they saw this the Mush thread and purposely are withholding picks but now I'm not thinking that is so crazy. If they did see this thread I don't see why it would stop them. I've personally been following SportsRumble for 4 years and have never seen them not update their site for days at a time like recently.
 

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Gators, if you can do us both a favor, go to scamdicappers.com, pay for $5.00 3 day trial, (I have used mine up)
Locate this eckstein guy, print all his baseball activity, then close account, I would be happy to go over whatever data he has.
If you'd like of course, if not we'll keep it solely with these fools. I definately have rumble marked as a great NBA fade come next season.
 

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I'm going through his stats in the Service Play Thread. Looks like he's not that great of a fade and Mr. A and Hondo are the way to go.

That is if Mr. A actually posts plays. That site is so weird lately.
 

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ytd: +1.73 units
Padres really blow, gonna be tough taking them all year. AAA team can beat the shit out of them, dont even know how they scored 3 runs.
Anyways, on to business:
(HONDO)=TB RAYS +119 100 TO WIN 119.

Its an all HONDO thread as Mr A and Gina are on a swingers club tour apparently this month.
 

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GG,

You think Sports Rumble has stopped because of my thread? Sounds insane but I don't know why else they would just stop their picks all together.
 

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Not insane at all. Either its that or they just dont have any business and feel its not worth it. I don't see any other possibility.
Thats not necessarily a bad thing. I can concentrate on HONDO. I feel like I am getting chemotherapy every day wagering huge amounts because past 2 years he has sucked so bad in april and may. I am either gonna come out real healthy or die. Also gotta lay off taking dogs until less than 30 minutes till first pitch; I lost 5 cents as line is at +124 at some places now. I said wagering $100/game but thats for easy record keeping; I will provide full month-to-month data of 2010 and 2011 of HONDO sometime today or this weekend, time permitting with easter activities. There is no other person I can consider fading right now, maybe lang a bit in NBA.
 

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Gators, heres what I got:
2011 stats: $100/game to win (fave) or risk (on dog) would net you following results month-by-month:

april=1020
may=360
june=-315
july=460
aug=560 (very tumultuous month; was down 1k, 20 days in)
sept=-250
oct=-110
total 2011:+1725, about 17 units of profit, at $100/game.

2010:
april=470 (only 12 games of data available, so month is misleading; was on pace for much more wins for faders, but I took whatever data supplied.)
may=440
june=80
july=760
aug=740
sept=300
oct=-320 net for 2010: around 24.7 units, at $100/game.

Very meticulous work; I had to estimate some run line payoffs, etc. But its closest anyone can get to real number.
found several losing streaks for faders where he gets hot; some runs last 20 days, etc. If you can withstand those by playing a comfortable bankroll amount/ bet per game, and history repeats itself, which with my jinx-ass probably wont, we can have around a nice 20 unit profit.
He also bets all over the place. He could have a dog at +250, then turn around play a fave at -300. Crazy shit.
I counted all wins/losses according to my run line rule listed on post #1.
 

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no way TB will win, let alone get an RBI from anyone not named Longoria, so counting as a loss. Out till 2mrw.
YTD: +0.73 units.
 

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no way TB will win, let alone get an RBI from anyone not named Longoria, so counting as a loss. Out till 2mrw.
YTD: +0.73 units.

What game were you watching? :think2: The one I saw had Tampa Bay win! @):)

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Hey Inc. Always nice to see your avatar here.
The "get up from your chair because you are dominated heading into the river" poker act works.
YTD: +2.92 units.

Today: Cleveland Indians +102 100 to win 102.

Meanwhile, Mr.A is really giving it to Mrs Gina this weekend at the Imperial Palace, "no holes barred."
Jonny Guild is considering being on the end of a rope as he seems to be the odd tout out of this bizarre love triangle. Stay tuned.
 

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cant even celebrate miracle win, followed right up with a miracle loss.
YTD: +1.92 UNITS

miami marlins +107 100 to win 107.
 

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YTD: +.92 UNITS
Lets see 4 days:
blown 2 leads, needed miracle to comeback to win one game, and barely squeaked a 1-0 game.
Not a good start even though not down.
If anyone has good fade options I would love to hear them. I know its early but good to have a backup.
 

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I'm saying let's fade Benjamin Lee Eckstein (NY Daily News) and Hondo (NY Post). That would be 2 plays a day. Usually two favorites. Occasionally two small chalks. Mr. A used to do 2 favorites each day and we'd chip away because he'd split. We would hope for 1-1 days and small profits.

Eckstein is 4-1, +$230 for the MLB season so far, using $100 as a base. He's taken 5 favorites. He's won 4 in a row. His nickname is "Mr. Chalk" and historically he's gotten killed. Last year was the best year he's ever had going 118-71 but still being in the red. I don't think he can match that again. Any way with him winning 4 in a row now might be a decent time to jump in. It's incredibly hard to win 5 games in a row betting sports. He is due for a little regression considering he's been running super hot here. He had the Tigers yesterday. They were down 10-7 in the ninth before Miguel Cabrera bashed a three run homer. Then they were down 12-11 in the 12th before Alex Avila hit a two run walk-off. I'm not really panicking yet. I think he's due for some run-bad.
 

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