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This is my question as well. Not so much favorites, but its been alot of road faves. Which is boggling my mind bc there is no way this 99 system has a 70% win rate the past two years if its spitting out road faves most of the time. Not mad, just curious, hoping that my contributions arent just getting me a bunch of road faves week in and week out. well see what this week brings....

what is the success rate of road favs ...current and historical ?
 

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This is my question as well. Not so much favorites, but its been alot of road faves. Which is boggling my mind bc there is no way this 99 system has a 70% win rate the past two years if its spitting out road faves most of the time. Not mad, just curious, hoping that my contributions arent just getting me a bunch of road faves week in and week out. well see what this week brings....

I had the same concern.
Looked back at 2009 sys99 plays
40 Total
15 Road Favs
11 Road dogs
13 Home Favs
[FONT=&quot]1 Home dog

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Ace, under what circumstances (if any) would an investment play not be a sys99 play?

I use a lot of tools...if the 99 system say team A and two other ones also point to it...than my other 6-7 tools point to team B...than it will not be a Investment play
most of the time when the 99 system say its a play I have back up tools that support it...6-4 is what I want to see...myline and 99 system wts alot on it.
 

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I had the same concern.
Looked back at 2009 sys99 plays
40 Total
15 Road Favs
11 Road dogs
13 Home Favs
[FONT=&quot]1 Home dog

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it is what it is.... week 1-10 home only gets 1 point edge...week 11-17 two point edge....so what the stats pick is what I go with... home vs away should not matter much in the NFL

this week there is Road fav and a home fav as the 99 plays..
 

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it is what it is.... week 1-10 home only gets 1 point edge...week 11-17 two point edge....so what the stats pick is what I go with... home vs away should not matter much in the NFL

this week there is Road fav and a home fav as the 99 plays..

road fav and a home fav 99 plays? think you're a bit confused with the different systems you're putting out there..gl
 

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road fav and a home fav 99 plays? think you're a bit confused with the different systems you're putting out there..gl

He is not confused. I asure you of that .


Ill make it simple for you to understand what he posted there.


When the sheet says its a play , its aplay regardless if they are away or home, fav or dog. Those 4 factors have been in the mix of the formulas from step 1 of hundreds.

It is either yes or no . There is no maybe/ possible. Very cut and dry.

You can not confuse ACE with numbers. He may look past your words sometimes , but the numbers are not overlooked .

something like this is how I see it when it comes to ACE .



" Numbers and stats may make or break me, but words will never influence me"

( I like that !!! that is exactly how I communicate with him)


another could be :

" Show me , dont tell me"
 

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road fav and a home fav 99 plays? think you're a bit confused with the different systems you're putting out there..gl


no i'm right
two road fav is the 99 plays this week

411 has a road fav and a home fav

My two Investment plays one is a 99 and 411 play (they both match)...the other investment play is from 411
 

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He is not confused. I asure you of that .


Ill make it simple for you to understand what he posted there.


When the sheet says its a play , its aplay regardless if they are away or home, fav or dog. Those 4 factors have been in the mix of the formulas from step 1 of hundreds.

It is either yes or no . There is no maybe/ possible. Very cut and dry.

You can not confuse ACE with numbers. He may look past your words sometimes , but the numbers are not overlooked .

something like this is how I see it when it comes to ACE .



" Numbers and stats may make or break me, but words will never influence me"

( I like that !!! that is exactly how I communicate with him)


another could be :

" Show me , dont tell me"

i understand all of that, you didnt say much new in those couple of sentences.

it is what it is.... week 1-10 home only gets 1 point edge...week 11-17 two point edge....so what the stats pick is what I go with... home vs away should not matter much in the NFL

this week there is Road fav and a home fav as the 99 plays..

no i'm right
two road fav is the 99 plays this week

411 has a road fav and a home fav

My two Investment plays one is a 99 and 411 play (they both match)...the other investment play is from 411

here's the source of the confusion.
 

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DIRECT FROM NEVADA WITH NICK BOGDANOVICH
WHAT SHARPS ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS WEEK'S NFL GAMES
Let's see how the sharps have been placing bets, or biding their time, in this week's NFL action. As always, games are presented in rotation order. Note that we have the first byes of the season this week (Dallas, Kansas City, Minnesota, Tampa Bay), so there are two fewer games on the card than we've had in prior weeks.
DENVER AT TENNESSEE: Early action here has been on the total, with an opener of 41½ moving up to 43. Denver threw 57 passes last week in a loss to Indianapolis. Sharps tend to bet Overs with teams who establish they're going to pass THAT much. Even though Indy/Denver stayed Under the total, it took some badly timed luck to make that happen. Sharps, to this point, are more interested in the Over here than either team. Tennessee opened 6½ and hasn't budged. To me, that suggests sentiment on the underdog. If the sharps liked Tennessee they surely would have jumped in below the key number of 7. The fact that they didn't suggests they're hoping the public drives the line higher so they can take the dog, Denver, at +7.
BALTIMORE AT PITTSBURGH: Strong early action on the Under here, with an opener of 36½ falling down to 34½. Pittsburgh spiked Under bets last week vs. Tampa Bay with some big passes from Charlie Batch. The totals guys don't think that will happen two weeks in a row. Plus, they remember how scoring Pittsburgh/Atlanta, Pittsburgh/Tennessee, Baltimore/NYJ, and Baltimore Cincinnati were. Support stopped once the number dipped below 35. Not much interest on the side yet. If Pittsburgh stays at -1½ through the weekend, teaser players will be moving Baltimore up past the 3 and the 7 in two-teamers.
CINCINNATI AT CLEVELAND: Dog and Under money at the openers have knocked Cincinnati -3½ and 38½ down to Cincinnati -3 and 37½. Carson Palmer has looked pretty horrible outside of garbage time against the soft New England defense. Sharps want to squeeze out any value they can find by asking that to continue.
DETROIT AT GREEN BAY: This game and the next both have lines near -14. Sharps will typically handle these games in the same way. They'll get in early on the favorite to take a position for a side or middle, then they'll come back on the dog once the public has hit the favorite over the weekend. If sharps like the dog, they'll make those second bets bigger than the first. If they don't have an opinion, they'll just hope for a middle. If they liked the favorite (rare, but it happens sometimes), they'll just keep that early position at the lower number knowing that they beat the closer.
CAROLINA AT NEW ORLEANS: The total here has fallen from 46½ down to 44, with Carolina's defense getting respect but the offense ranking as one of the worst in the league. A move of 2½ points is large...but the value may be gone now that the total has settled right at 44. It's not like there will be weather news that changes anyone's opinion in this dome game.
SAN FRANCISCO AT ATLANTA: I think this will be a game where sharps will like San Francisco at +7, but the public will like Atlanta at -6½. So, each store will price based on its clientele and how they want to be positioned on the game. The total is up to 42½ from an opener or 44½ based on the productivity Atlanta's offense has shown the last two weeks.
SEATTLE AT ST. LOUIS: A lot of totals moves this week, with this opener of 38 shooting up to 40. Sam Bradford has impressed some sharps, and they'd rather express that with a totals bet than a team side bet on the Rams. How can you ask St. Louis to win two weeks in a row? To this point, the majority of action has been on totals. That tells me sharps are focusing mostly on dogs...but they're waiting to see if they can pick up some value after the public money hits over the weekend.
NY JETS AT BUFFALO: Not much interest in this one. We've seen some dead spots this year when games are priced right at 5. There's not a critical number in play, and the basic strategy teaser window isn't an issue either. Sharps didn't hit the Jets at -5, suggesting they're thinking about Buffalo and hoping for +6 or better. Tough schedule spot for the Jets as a second straight road game, and third straight divisional game. The total has dropped a tick from 36½ down to 36.
INDIANAPOLIS AT JACKSONVILLE: No action here, with an opener of Indy -7 and 46 holding firm. Sharps don't like laying this kind of price on the road. Jacksonville has looked so bad the last two weeks that it's hard to have any enthusiasm for them. The public tends to bet on Peyton Manning, so we may see sharp dog money come in at +7½ or higher if the money moves the number.
HOUSTON AT OAKLAND: Dog and Under support again here. Houston opened at -4 and 44, but we're now seeing Houston -3 and 43. You regulars know sharps typically shade toward dog and Under. If they bet early, it's because they figure the public isn't going to get very involved in the game. This isn't a big TV matchup or anything, so Wise Guys stepped in early and took more than a field goal while they could.
ARIZONA AT SAN DIEGO: San Diego's been at -8 all week, which is right in the teaser window. Maybe stores aren't worried about San Diego in teasers because of the soft defense. Or, there are so few qualifiers this week that it's not going to matter. Sportsbooks will be dealing with a lot of Baltimore-San Diego teaser combo's Sunday if the lines don't move. Hard to bet on either team at this price given Arizona's blowout loss at Atlanta, but San Diego's shaky form. The total is stuck on 46.
WASHINGTON AT PHILADELPHIA: This is the game everyone's waiting for, with Donovan McNabb returning to Philadelphia for the first time. Sharps took an early stab at Washington +6½ because they figured public sentiment would be on McNabb rather than Michael Vick. That moved the line down to +5½. Some thought sharps might wait to see if they could get a +7. But...too many sharps didn't trust other sharps to wait! The total is up to 42½ from an opener of 41 on the thought that both quarterbacks will have something to prove.
CHICAGO AT NY GIANTS: The Giants opened at -3, and jumped right to -4. Considering Chicago WON this past Monday Night, that's quite something. Clearly sharps are looking for a letdown in the short week for the Bears. This is what I mean about what happens when sharps like a favorite. They bet QUICK! If you're seeing NFL games where the line isn't moving toward the favorite right away, then they're looking at the dog and waiting for square action to drive the line up. The total is up to 44 from 42½. The Old Meadowlands used to get Under money. I'm interested to see what happens this year in the new stadium.
NEW ENGLAND AT MIAMI: Not much going on yet, with an opener of pick-em and 46½. We're not near a critical number. And, you can't shoot a middle at a zero because it's very rare to have a regular season tie. My take is that the sharps see it as a toss-up, and they'll fade the public if the public moves the line in one direction or the other figuring it's a free point or two. You know, it's a HUGE weekend in football...and the public may not get around to even thinking about this one until Monday afternoon.
 

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NFL MARKET IS THE SHARPEST
OF ALL LEGAL BETTING SPORTS

It's common knowledge in the sports betting industry that the NFL is the 'sharpest' of the markets. But far too many sports bettors don't realize the full ramifications of this reality.
Why is this true?
*It's the LARGEST market in all of sports, which means the 'wisdom of the crowds' as they call it has so much force that the lines pretty much get to where they need to be. No market is perfect because there's just too much information to be absorbed. The NFL market is as close as it gets in sports.
*It's the BEST INFORMED of all the sports markets because all 32 teams are covered very closely by the media. And, that was true even before the internet! College football has so many teams that a lot of information slips through the cracks. Pro basketball and baseball have a manageable number of teams, but aren't as popular with bettors (or TV viewers if you look at the ratings). The drive to present up-to-the-minute information is stronger for media companies in the NFL, which therefore makes bettors more informed than in other sports.
*There's a week between games, meaning there's MORE TIME for lines to get knocked to where they need to be. NBA teams play 3-4 games a week. Bettors/investors don't have several days at a time to make their calculations and adjustments. MLB teams play every day. There's a HUGE difference between gathering information over one day and gathering it over seven days.
Now, I'm not saying the NFL market is unbeatable. Smart players can find some edges and make money. What I'm saying is that it's the toughest to beat. Therefore:
*If you're playing a lot of action every Sunday, you've pretty much already guaranteed yourself a loss. There may be a few mistakes. There aren't so many that you should be betting most of the board. Even if you win one week, you'll just lose it all back the next once the larger sample size is allowed to humble you.
*If you're betting on game day rather than early in the week, you've pretty much missed most of the value. Sharps hit the openers... largely sit on their hands for several days...then bet late in games where public action may have moved the line too far. That's why it's REALLY dumb to wait until Sunday morning to start your handicapping...then place a lot of bets. If you like action, bet the openers and buy back some of the moves.
*If you're placing your biggest bets of the week in the NFL rather than other sports, you'd better have a really good reason. I know it makes you feel more macho to place big bets in the country's most popular sport. It's the toughest market to beat. Consider increasing your bet sizes in other sports, and reducing them in the NFL. Now...sharps are limited in some of the other sports because sportsbooks will only take so much action on small conference college action. For most of you reading this, it's not an issue. You're recreational players rather than professionals. A 'big' bet for you can be placed in any game. Be smart with your money management, and tailor your legal bet sizes to the caliber of the market.
Think about that Sunday and Monday as you watch the markets move early in the day, then the games on TV later on. Review how your personal bets have done in the first part of the season. What's your record in the NFL? How have your biggest plays done? Are you making more bets in the NFL than you are in the colleges? Does your record justify that decision?
The NFL is a sharp market, but still a beatable market if you're disciplined, aggressive early, patient late, and smart with your money management.
 

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GOOD MORNING !!

I just read your letter a little while ago ...I AM SO EXCITED . You have no idea.
The future is so bright , I gotta wear shades.

Anyways, you have mail , good luck , dont stay up all night !!!
 

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Ace, how can I get 411 plays? I'm a subscriber at Doc's, but plays are not listed there.
Do you have some sort of private memberships and mailing list for this?
Thanks

2...99

411 there a diff one and its a Investment play

99 there only 1 investment plays
 

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