Exbookie wants to help the players week 12

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Love the insight you offer Ace and I would like to possibly help too. Not sure if this interests anyone but these are power ratings according to how the oddsmakers set the opening line each week. This chart is from before the week 11 games were played, so you can see what the week 12 spreads would've been if week 11 had never occurred. And I will update them for this week so you can see what the lines would be next week without week 12. Simple add three to the home team and subtract, like most power ratings work. The math won't be exact when looking behind/ahead because they are tweaked each week to be exact for that week's spread so approximation is applied for the would-be spreads.

<table width="429"><tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">1</td> <td width="327">Dallas</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">76.75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">2</td> <td width="327">Tennessee</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">76.61</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">3</td> <td width="327">Pittsburgh</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">75.42</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">4</td> <td width="327">Giants</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">74.94</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">5</td> <td width="327">Philadelphia</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">74.88</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">6</td> <td width="327">San Diego</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">74.42</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">7</td> <td width="327">Indianapolis</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">74.23</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">8</td> <td width="327">Tampa Bay</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">73.61</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">9</td> <td width="327">Minnesota</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">72.61</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">10</td> <td width="327">Carolina</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">72.59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">11</td> <td width="327">Baltimore</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">71.94</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">12</td> <td width="327">Arizona</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">71.68</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">13</td> <td width="327">Washington</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">71.25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">14</td> <td width="327">Green Bay
</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">70.94</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">15</td> <td width="327">New Orleans</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">70.83</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">16</td> <td width="327">New England</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">70.62</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">17</td> <td width="327">Jacksonville</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">70.61</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">18</td> <td width="327">Chicago</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">70.51</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">19</td> <td width="327">Buffalo</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">69.73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">20</td> <td width="327">Jets</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">69.62</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">21</td> <td width="327">Miami</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">69.23</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">22</td> <td width="327">Cleveland</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">68.73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">23</td> <td width="327">Atlanta</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">68.54</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">24</td> <td width="327">Houston</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">67.73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">25</td> <td width="327">Denver</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">67.54</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">26</td> <td width="327">San Francisco</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">66.63</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">27</td> <td width="327">Seattle</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">66.18</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">28</td> <td width="327">Kansas City</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">63.83</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">29</td> <td width="327">Saint Louis</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">63.63</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">30</td> <td width="327">Cincinnati</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">62.38</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">31</td> <td width="327">Oakland</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">61.73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17" width="21">32</td> <td width="327">Detroit</td> <td class="xl24" x:num="" align="right" width="61">61.59</td></tr></tbody></table>
w/o week 11 vs. actual

CIN
@PIT -16 -10

PHI -1
@BAL -1.5

HOU
@CLE -4 -3

TB -9 -9
@DET

BUF -3 -3
@KC

CHI -4 -9
@STL

NYJ
@TEN
-10 -6

NE
@MIA -1.5 -2.5

MIN
@JAC -1 -2

SF
@DAL -13 -11

OAK
@DEN -9 -9.5

CAR -1
@ATL -1

NYG -.5 -3
@ARI

WAS -2 -3.5
@SEA

IND
@SD -3 -3

GB
@NO -3 -2.5

Looks as if Vegas is finally respecting the Giants as the best team.
 

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Love the insight you offer Ace and I would like to possibly help too. Not sure if this interests anyone but these are power ratings according to how the oddsmakers set the opening line each week. This chart is from before the week 11 games were played, so you can see what the week 12 spreads would've been if week 11 had never occurred. And I will update them for this week so you can see what the lines would be next week without week 12. Simple add three to the home team and subtract, like most power ratings work. The math won't be exact when looking behind/ahead because they are tweaked each week to be exact for that week's spread so approximation is applied for the would-be spreads.

<TABLE width=429><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">1</TD><TD width=327>Dallas</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">76.75</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">2</TD><TD width=327>Tennessee</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">76.61</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">3</TD><TD width=327>Pittsburgh</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">75.42</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">4</TD><TD width=327>Giants</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">74.94</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">5</TD><TD width=327>Philadelphia</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">74.88</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">6</TD><TD width=327>San Diego</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">74.42</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">7</TD><TD width=327>Indianapolis</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">74.23</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">8</TD><TD width=327>Tampa Bay</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">73.61</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">9</TD><TD width=327>Minnesota</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">72.61</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">10</TD><TD width=327>Carolina</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">72.59</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">11</TD><TD width=327>Baltimore</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">71.94</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">12</TD><TD width=327>Arizona</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">71.68</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">13</TD><TD width=327>Washington</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">71.25</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">14</TD><TD width=327>Green Bay

</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">70.94</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">15</TD><TD width=327>New Orleans</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">70.83</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">16</TD><TD width=327>New England</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">70.62</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">17</TD><TD width=327>Jacksonville</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">70.61</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">18</TD><TD width=327>Chicago</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">70.51</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">19</TD><TD width=327>Buffalo</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">69.73</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">20</TD><TD width=327>Jets</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">69.62</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">21</TD><TD width=327>Miami</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">69.23</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">22</TD><TD width=327>Cleveland</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">68.73</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">23</TD><TD width=327>Atlanta</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">68.54</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">24</TD><TD width=327>Houston</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">67.73</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">25</TD><TD width=327>Denver</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">67.54</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">26</TD><TD width=327>San Francisco</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">66.63</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">27</TD><TD width=327>Seattle</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">66.18</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">28</TD><TD width=327>Kansas City</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">63.83</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">29</TD><TD width=327>Saint Louis</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">63.63</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">30</TD><TD width=327>Cincinnati</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">62.38</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">31</TD><TD width=327>Oakland</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">61.73</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" align=right width=21 height=17 x:num="">32</TD><TD width=327>Detroit</TD><TD class=xl24 align=right width=61 x:num="">61.59</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
w/o week 11 vs. actual

CIN
@PIT -16 -10

PHI -1
@BAL -1.5

HOU
@CLE -4 -3

TB -9 -9
@DET

BUF -3 -3
@KC

CHI -4 -9
@STL

NYJ
@TEN
-10 -6

NE
@MIA -1.5 -2.5

MIN
@JAC -1 -2

SF
@DAL -13 -11

OAK
@DEN -9 -9.5

CAR -1
@ATL -1

NYG -.5 -3
@ARI

WAS -2 -3.5
@SEA

IND
@SD -3 -3

GB
@NO -3 -2.5

Looks as if Vegas is finally respecting the Giants as the best team.

I like this factor..just one more tool or one more view to match-up to our plays!!
that's a big adjustment in the PITT game!

glad you here...this will help also :toast:AA
 

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Im glad I could potentially help ACE. The Pit-Cin game stood out to me as well. Before this week Pitt and Phi were about equal, so the Phi@Cin spread would've been the same for Pit@Cin. But instead we get the equivalent of Pit-4@Cin. Huge difference! But I think if we look at the matchup I think it's not so surprising.

Looking at Cincy their defense has been better the past few weeks. Not a lot better, but better. Fitz can only get more comfortable with the offense as time goes on. They just held a very good team to a tie as huge underdogs.

Pit, on the other hand, has been struggling on offense all year. Their defense is great no matter how you look at it. With such a low total I think a spread any higher than this would've been outrageous. This seems like a big one week reaction but considering each team's respective circumstances I think the spread is fair.

As for the actual games, I still don't think the Giants are getting enough respect. I like Chicago (why would Vegas bump up that spread despite Chicago getting crushed? Rams did as well, but still.....). OAK, SF (spreads much too big). Miami (I just think they're still underrated and better than NE. Helps that the public is all over NE in this one). Minnesota (handled in the TB game despite the close score, but still much better than Jax. That loss to Ten must have been demoralizing.) Jets (impressive road win and why such a big diff in the spread despite a very impressive performance by Ten on the road in a game I think several sharps thought Jax would win?). And lastly, Atlanta at home. (Very balanced attack but I think it will be their stellar air attack that will ultimately bury Carolina.)
 

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TALKING ABOUT THE PITT GAME...

THE OVER AND UNDER STARTED AT 36

WHEN THIS HAPPEN
....................................................................OVER AND UNDER
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145551 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145551', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/20
8:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>105 Cincinnati Bengals
106 Pittsburgh Steelers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>12714
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>48%
52%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>31%
69%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>81%
19%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

OVER IS PUBLIC PLAY WITH EARLY BETS ON THE OVER





BUT



IT OPEN AT 36.....ITS NOW <TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145551 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145551', event)"><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>36 -110
-10.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>34.5 -110
-10.5-110
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> 34.5 A DROP OF 1.1/2 POINTS...CHI/BOOK TOLD ME ABOUT IT GETTING HIT "UNDER"...BY "KEY"

IF YOU LOOK AT MY LINE ON THIS IN THIS THREAD...IT WAS ON THIS GAME
.....................................................................LINE.....MYLINE
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 418pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=557 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><COL style="WIDTH: 74pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 3620" width=99><COL style="WIDTH: 44pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2121" width=58><COL style="WIDTH: 74pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 3620" width=99><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1938" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 50pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2450" width=67><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1938" width=53><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 14.25pt" height=19><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 14.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right width=64 height=19 x:num>12</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 74pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=99>STEELERS</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 44pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right width=58 x:num>-10.5</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 74pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=99>Bengals</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right width=64 x:num>36.5</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 40pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right width=53 x:num="29.106666666666662">29.11</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND: yellow; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 50pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; mso-ignore: style; mso-pattern: auto none" align=right width=67 x:num="7.393333333333338" x:fmla="=IF(E1=0,0,ABS(F1-E1))">7.39</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 40pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=53 x:str="" x:fmla='=IF(F1-E1<-10,"UNDER",IF(E1=0,"",IF(F1-E1>10,"OVER","")))'></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

A VALUE OF +7.39...i DID NOT GET IT AT 36.5....BUT AT 36...FOR $600.00

WAS GOING TO DO MY ...BUT MISS THE BOAT!!!..

DO WHAT YOU LIKE...JUST REPORTING....AA
 

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Hey, I'm new here. :howdy:

ACE-ACE, thanks a lot for all this great info!
I've learned a lot already and I will be approaching games in a different way now!

I'm having a pretty good season thus far and this forum will only help out more.
 

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Thursday, November 20

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CINCINNATI (1 - 8 - 1) at PITTSBURGH (7 - 3) - 11/20/2008, 8:15 PM
Top Trends for this game.
CINCINNATI is 47-72 ATS (-32.2 Units) versus division opponents since 1992.
CINCINNATI is 20-8 ATS (+11.2 Units) in road games in weeks 10 through 13 since 1992.
PITTSBURGH is 5-15 ATS (-11.5 Units) as a favorite of 10 or more points since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
PITTSBURGH is 4-1 against the spread versus CINCINNATI over the last 3 seasons
PITTSBURGH is 4-1 straight up against CINCINNATI over the last 3 seasons
3 of 5 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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Sunday, November 23

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HOUSTON (3 - 7) at CLEVELAND (4 - 6) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
CLEVELAND is 18-9 ATS (+8.1 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
CLEVELAND is 18-9 ATS (+8.1 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
CLEVELAND is 15-6 ATS (+8.4 Units) in games played on a grass field over the last 2 seasons.
HOUSTON is 27-13 ATS (+12.7 Units) after 2 or more consecutive losses since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
CLEVELAND is 1-1 against the spread versus HOUSTON over the last 3 seasons
CLEVELAND is 1-1 straight up against HOUSTON over the last 3 seasons
2 of 2 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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BUFFALO (5 - 5) at KANSAS CITY (1 - 9) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
BUFFALO is 11-3 ATS (+7.7 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record over the last 3 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
There were no past matchups in this series during this time period.

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NY JETS (7 - 3) at TENNESSEE (10 - 0) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
TENNESSEE is 9-0 ATS (+9.0 Units) in all games this season.
TENNESSEE is 9-0 ATS (+9.0 Units) in all lined games this season.
TENNESSEE is 8-0 ATS (+8.0 Units) as a favorite this season.
TENNESSEE is 6-0 ATS (+6.0 Units) in all games where the total is between 35.5 and 42 points this season.
TENNESSEE is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) against conference opponents this season.
TENNESSEE is 6-0 ATS (+6.0 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest this season.
TENNESSEE is 8-0 ATS (+8.0 Units) in games played on a grass field this season.
TENNESSEE is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) after 2 or more consecutive wins this season.

Head-to-Head Series History
NY JETS is 2-0 against the spread versus TENNESSEE over the last 3 seasons
TENNESSEE is 1-1 straight up against NY JETS over the last 3 seasons
1 of 2 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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NEW ENGLAND (6 - 4) at MIAMI (6 - 4) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
NEW ENGLAND is 71-44 ATS (+22.6 Units) as an underdog since 1992.
NEW ENGLAND is 16-6 ATS (+9.4 Units) in road games over the last 3 seasons.
NEW ENGLAND is 16-6 ATS (+9.4 Units) in road lined games over the last 3 seasons.
NEW ENGLAND is 63-42 ATS (+16.8 Units) in road games against conference opponents since 1992.
NEW ENGLAND is 37-20 ATS (+15.0 Units) in road games versus division opponents since 1992.
NEW ENGLAND is 53-32 ATS (+17.8 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record in the second half of the season since 1992.
MIAMI is 6-15 ATS (-10.5 Units) in home games over the last 3 seasons.
MIAMI is 6-15 ATS (-10.5 Units) in home lined games over the last 3 seasons.
MIAMI is 8-18 ATS (-11.8 Units) in all games where the total is between 35.5 and 42 points over the last 3 seasons.
MIAMI is 48-71 ATS (-30.1 Units) versus division opponents since 1992.
MIAMI is 6-15 ATS (-10.5 Units) in home games in games played on a grass field over the last 3 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
MIAMI is 3-2 against the spread versus NEW ENGLAND over the last 3 seasons
NEW ENGLAND is 3-2 straight up against MIAMI over the last 3 seasons
3 of 5 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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SAN FRANCISCO (3 - 7) at DALLAS (6 - 4) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
SAN FRANCISCO is 46-68 ATS (-28.8 Units) as an underdog since 1992.
DALLAS is 5-15 ATS (-11.5 Units) in a home game where the total is between 45.5 and 49 points since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
There were no past matchups in this series during this time period.

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TAMPA BAY (7 - 3) at DETROIT (0 - 10) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
DETROIT is 11-22 ATS (-13.2 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest over the last 3 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
DETROIT is 1-0 against the spread versus TAMPA BAY over the last 3 seasons
DETROIT is 1-0 straight up against TAMPA BAY over the last 3 seasons
1 of 1 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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PHILADELPHIA (5 - 4 - 1) at BALTIMORE (6 - 4) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
PHILADELPHIA is 11-2 ATS (+8.8 Units) as an underdog over the last 3 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
There were no past matchups in this series during this time period.

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CHICAGO (5 - 5) at ST LOUIS (2 - 8) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
CHICAGO is 24-10 ATS (+13.0 Units) in road games in November games since 1992.
ST LOUIS is 8-18 ATS (-11.8 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 8-18 ATS (-11.8 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) as an underdog over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 4-14 ATS (-11.4 Units) in all games where the total is between 42.5 and 49 points over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 69-98 ATS (-38.8 Units) against conference opponents since 1992.
ST LOUIS is 6-15 ATS (-10.5 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 18-36 ATS (-21.6 Units) in November games since 1992.
ST LOUIS is 3-11 ATS (-9.1 Units) after 2 or more consecutive losses over the last 2 seasons.
ST LOUIS is 19-34 ATS (-18.4 Units) in weeks 10 through 13 since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
CHICAGO is 1-0 against the spread versus ST LOUIS over the last 3 seasons
CHICAGO is 1-0 straight up against ST LOUIS over the last 3 seasons
1 of 1 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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MINNESOTA (5 - 5) at JACKSONVILLE (4 - 6) - 11/23/2008, 1:00 PM
Top Trends for this game.
JACKSONVILLE is 18-7 ATS (+10.3 Units) in home games in non-conference games since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
There were no past matchups in this series during this time period.

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CAROLINA (8 - 2) at ATLANTA (6 - 4) - 11/23/2008, 4:15 PM
Top Trends for this game.
CAROLINA is 73-47 ATS (+21.3 Units) as an underdog since 1992.
ATLANTA is 1-8 ATS (-7.8 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record in the second half of the season over the last 3 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
CAROLINA is 3-2 against the spread versus ATLANTA over the last 3 seasons
CAROLINA is 3-2 straight up against ATLANTA over the last 3 seasons
4 of 5 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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OAKLAND (2 - 8) at DENVER (6 - 4) - 11/23/2008, 4:05 PM
Top Trends for this game.
OAKLAND is 26-44 ATS (-22.4 Units) after 2 or more consecutive losses since 1992.
DENVER is 9-18 ATS (-10.8 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 9-18 ATS (-10.8 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 3-12 ATS (-10.2 Units) as a favorite over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 5-16 ATS (-12.6 Units) in home games over the last 3 seasons.
DENVER is 5-16 ATS (-12.6 Units) in home lined games over the last 3 seasons.
DENVER is 2-12 ATS (-11.2 Units) in all games where the total is between 42.5 and 49 points over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 5-13 ATS (-9.3 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 3-12 ATS (-10.2 Units) versus division opponents over the last 3 seasons.
DENVER is 12-24 ATS (-14.4 Units) in games played on a grass field over the last 3 seasons.
DENVER is 15-30 ATS (-18.0 Units) in home games when playing against a team with a losing record since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
OAKLAND is 4-1 against the spread versus DENVER over the last 3 seasons
DENVER is 4-1 straight up against OAKLAND over the last 3 seasons
3 of 5 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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WASHINGTON (6 - 4) at SEATTLE (2 - 8) - 11/23/2008, 4:15 PM
Top Trends for this game.
WASHINGTON is 45-70 ATS (-32.0 Units) as a favorite since 1992.
WASHINGTON is 2-10 ATS (-9.0 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record over the last 3 seasons.
SEATTLE is 46-72 ATS (-33.2 Units) off a division game since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
SEATTLE is 1-0 against the spread versus WASHINGTON over the last 3 seasons
SEATTLE is 1-0 straight up against WASHINGTON over the last 3 seasons
1 of 1 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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NY GIANTS (9 - 1) at ARIZONA (7 - 3) - 11/23/2008, 4:15 PM
Top Trends for this game.
NY GIANTS are 24-41 ATS (-21.1 Units) in November games since 1992.
NY GIANTS are 21-39 ATS (-21.9 Units) in weeks 10 through 13 since 1992.
NY GIANTS are 8-2 ATS (+5.8 Units) in all games this season.
NY GIANTS are 8-2 ATS (+5.8 Units) in all lined games this season.
NY GIANTS are 12-2 ATS (+9.8 Units) in road games over the last 2 seasons.
NY GIANTS are 12-2 ATS (+9.8 Units) in road lined games over the last 2 seasons.
NY GIANTS are 6-0 ATS (+6.0 Units) against conference opponents this season.
NY GIANTS are 16-5 ATS (+10.5 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest over the last 2 seasons.
NY GIANTS are 10-1 ATS (+8.9 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record over the last 2 seasons.
NY GIANTS are 8-1 ATS (+6.9 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record in the second half of the season over the last 2 seasons.
ARIZONA is 2-11 ATS (-10.1 Units) in home games after 2 or more consecutive wins since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
There were no past matchups in this series during this time period.

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INDIANAPOLIS (6 - 4) at SAN DIEGO (4 - 6) - 11/23/2008, 8:15 PM
Top Trends for this game.
INDIANAPOLIS is 32-53 ATS (-26.3 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record since 1992.
SAN DIEGO is 19-10 ATS (+8.0 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
SAN DIEGO is 19-10 ATS (+8.0 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
SAN DIEGO is 17-6 ATS (+10.4 Units) against conference opponents over the last 2 seasons.
SAN DIEGO is 12-2 ATS (+9.8 Units) against AFC South division opponents since 1992.
SAN DIEGO is 17-7 ATS (+9.3 Units) in games played on a grass field over the last 2 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
SAN DIEGO is 2-0 against the spread versus INDIANAPOLIS over the last 3 seasons
SAN DIEGO is 2-0 straight up against INDIANAPOLIS over the last 3 seasons
1 of 2 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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Monday, November 24

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GREEN BAY (5 - 5) at NEW ORLEANS (5 - 5) - 11/24/2008, 8:30 PM
Top Trends for this game.
GREEN BAY is 12-3 ATS (+8.7 Units) in games where the line is +3 to -3 over the last 2 seasons.
GREEN BAY is 19-7 ATS (+11.3 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
GREEN BAY is 19-7 ATS (+11.3 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
GREEN BAY is 15-5 ATS (+9.5 Units) in road games over the last 3 seasons.
GREEN BAY is 15-5 ATS (+9.5 Units) in road lined games over the last 3 seasons.
GREEN BAY is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) in dome games over the last 3 seasons.
NEW ORLEANS is 53-78 ATS (-32.8 Units) in home games since 1992.
NEW ORLEANS is 53-78 ATS (-32.8 Units) in home lined games since 1992.
NEW ORLEANS is 39-61 ATS (-28.1 Units) in home games against conference opponents since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
NEW ORLEANS is 1-0 against the spread versus GREEN BAY over the last 3 seasons
NEW ORLEANS is 1-0 straight up against GREEN BAY over the last 3 seasons
1 of 1 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

Week 12


Thursday, November 20th


Cincinnati at Pittsburgh, 8:15 ET NFL
Cincinnati: 6-0 Under off a non-conference game
Pittsburgh: 0-6 ATS after allowing 75 or less rushing yards BB games



Sunday, November 23rd

Houston at Cleveland, 1:00 ET
Houston: 6-0 Over off SU loss
Cleveland: 11-1 ATS off road game

Buffalo at Kansas City, 1:00 ET
Buffalo: 14-5 ATS off an Over
Kansas City: 4-0 Over off DD loss

NY Jets at Tennessee, 1:00 ET
NY Jets: 5-1 Under at Tennessee
Tennessee: 9-1 ATS this season

New England at Miami, 1:00 ET
New England: 16-6 ATS in road games
Miami: 0-6 ATS Away off Under

San Francisco at Dallas, 1:00 ET
San Francisco: 0-4 ATS vs. NFC East
Dallas: 19-8 Over off SU win

Tampa Bay at Detroit, 1:00 ET
Tampa Bay: 80-56 Under in road games
Detroit: 0-9 ATS after a game with a turnover margin of -2 or worse

Philadelphia at Baltimore, 1:00 ET
Philadelphia: 6-0 ATS as road underdog
Baltimore: 3-11 ATS off SU loss

Chicago at St. Louis, 1:00 ET
Chicago: 4-1 ATS off division loss
St Louis: 1-5 ATS off ATS loss

Minnesota at Jacksonville, 1:00 ET
Minnesota: 23-9 Over off BB ATS losses
Jacksonville: 18-7 ATS at home vs. NFC

(TC) Carolina at Atlanta, 4:15 ET
Carolina: 6-0 Under as a road underdog of 7 points or less
Atlanta: 11-3 Under as a favorite

Oakland at Denver, 4:05 ET
Oakland: 6-0 Under off SU Loss
Denver: 3-15 ATS as home favorite

Washington at Seattle, 4:15 ET
Washington: 2-6 ATS in weeks 10 through 13
Seattle: 7-1 ATS off BB losses

NY Giants at Arizona, 4:15 ET
NY Giants: 12-2 ATS in road games
Arizona: 2-11 ATS at home off BB wins

Indianapolis at San Diego, 8:15 ET
Indianapolis: 3-10 ATS vs. San Diego
San Diego: 6-0 ATS at home off ATS win



Monday, November 24th

Green Bay at New Orleans, 8:30 ET ESPN
Green Bay: 7-0 ATS in dome games
New Orleans: 31-53 ATS as home favorite

** (TC) Denotes Time Change

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Thursday, November 20

8:15 PM CINCINNATI vs. PITTSBURGH
Cincinnati is 1-8-1 SU in its last 10 games
The total has gone UNDER in 11 of Cincinnati's last 16 games
Pittsburgh is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games when playing at home against Cincinnati
The total has gone OVER in 5 of Pittsburgh's last 6 games when playing at home against Cincinnati



Sunday, November 23

1:00 PM BUFFALO vs. KANSAS CITY
Buffalo is 1-5 ATS in its last 6 games
Buffalo is 1-5 SU in its last 6 games
Kansas City is 2-6 ATS in its last 8 games when playing Buffalo
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Kansas City's last 5 games when playing Buffalo


1:00 PM CHICAGO vs. ST. LOUIS
Chicago is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Chicago's last 6 games
St. Louis is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Chicago
St. Louis is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games when playing Chicago


1:00 PM HOUSTON vs. CLEVELAND
Houston is 2-6 ATS in its last 8 games on the road
Houston is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games on the road
Cleveland is 18-7 ATS in its last 25 games
The total has gone OVER in 4 of Cleveland's last 6 games


1:00 PM MINNESOTA vs. JACKSONVILLE
Minnesota is 1-5 ATS in its last 6 games on the road
Minnesota is 1-5 SU in its last 6 games on the road
Jacksonville is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games
Jacksonville is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games


1:00 PM NEW ENGLAND vs. MIAMI
New England is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games when playing Miami
New England is 8-4 SU in its last 12 games when playing Miami
Miami is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games
Miami is 7-18 SU in its last 25 games


1:00 PM NY JETS vs. TENNESSEE
NY Jets are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games
NY Jets are 6-1 SU in their last 7 games
Tennessee is 5-2 SU in their last 7 games when playing at home against NY Jets
The total has gone UNDER in 7 of Tennessee's last 8 games when playing at home against NY Jets


1:00 PM PHILADELPHIA vs. BALTIMORE
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Philadelphia's last 6 games
Philadelphia is 1-3-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing Baltimore
Baltimore is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games
Baltimore is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games


1:00 PM SAN FRANCISCO vs. DALLAS
San Francisco is 3-8 ATS in its last 11 games on the road
San Francisco is 1-5 SU in its last 6 games on the road
Dallas is 1-5 ATS in its last 6 games at home
Dallas is 7-3 SU in its last 10 games at home


1:00 PM TAMPA BAY vs. DETROIT
Tampa Bay is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games on the road
Tampa Bay is 6-16 SU in its last 22 games on the road
Detroit is 0-5 ATS in its last 5 games at home
Detroit is 1-7 SU in its last 8 games at home


4:05 PM OAKLAND vs. DENVER
Oakland is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing Denver
Oakland is 1-6 SU in its last 7 games when playing Denver
Denver is 2-6-1 ATS in its last 9 games
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Denver's last 6 games


4:15 PM CAROLINA vs. ATLANTA
Carolina is 5-2 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Atlanta
Carolina is 7-13-4 ATS in its last 24 games when playing Atlanta
Atlanta is 4-2 ATS in its last 6 games
Atlanta is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games


4:15 PM NY GIANTS vs. ARIZONA
NY Giants are 11-1 ATS in their last 12 games on the road
NY Giants are 14-1 SU in their last 15 games on the road
Arizona is 5-1 ATS in its last 6 games
Arizona is 5-1 SU in its last 6 games


4:15 PM WASHINGTON vs. SEATTLE
Washington is 4-2 ATS in its last 6 games when playing Seattle
Washington is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games when playing Seattle
Seattle is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games at home
Seattle is 17-8 SU in its last 25 games at home


8:15 PM INDIANAPOLIS vs. SAN DIEGO
Indianapolis is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games
Indianapolis is 5-2 SU in its last 7 games
San Diego is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing Indianapolis
San Diego is 9-4 SU in its last 13 games when playing Indianapolis



Monday, November 24

8:30 PM GREEN BAY vs. NEW ORLEANS
Green Bay is 4-0-1 ATS in its last 5 games
Green Bay is 15-8 SU in its last 23 games
New Orleans is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Green Bay
New Orleans is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games when playing Green Bay

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New England Patriots at Miami Dolphins [CBS | 1 PM ET]

Patriots: New England QB Matt Cassel is coming off the best game of his career, completing 31-of-50 passes for 400 yards and rushing for 62 yards. Unfortunately for Cassel and the Pats, the effort resulted in a tough 34-31 overtime loss to the Jets that dropped them out of first place. “(When) you go through a game like that, you look back at 20, 25, 30 plays - any one of them could have made a little bit of a difference or maybe a big difference,” New England head coach Bill Belichick said. “I think everybody feels probably about the same way, that if I could have just done one thing differently or done one thing better or not done one thing or whatever. That’s the way I feel. I’m sure that’s the way all the players and assistant coaches feel.”

Patriots are 3-7 ATS in the last 10 meetings at Miami.
The UNDER is 10-3 in New England's last 13 November games.

Key Injuries - RB LaMont Jordan (leg) is questionable.
LB Adalius Thomas (forearm) is OUT.

PROJECTED SCORE: 17

Dolphins (-2, O/U 42): Miami has won four straight games to surge into a second-place tie in the AFC East with New England, a team the Dolphins beat handily 38-13 in Foxboro back in Week 3. New Miami head coach Tony Sparano has done an outstanding job of keeping his players focused from week to week, and it has already resulted in a great turnaround from 1-15 last season. The Dolphins are coming off a17-15 win over the Raiders and have been accused of playing to the level of their competition. “Three, four weeks ago, nobody cared about what the Miami Dolphins were doing, so I find it hard to believe that my guys are playing down to any level," Sparano said. "I think these guys go out and they sell out and they play pretty hard when they’re out there."

Dolphins are 6-20-2 ATS in their last 28 games vs. AFC East.
The UNDER is 4-0 in Miami's last 4 games overall.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 24 (Side Play of the Day)



New York Giants at Arizona Cardinals [FOX | 4:15 PM ET]

Giants (-3, O/U 49): New York is coming off a dominant performance in a 30-10 victory against the Ravens last week, improving to 6-0 at home and 9-1 overall. The Giants rolled over the NFL's top-ranked run defense en route to 207 yards on the ground, topping the 200-yard mark for the third game in a row. “They have a great defense, a great front, great linebackers with a lot of experience,” New York OT David Diehl said. “You watch film and you see teams get frustrated by only making 2 or 3 yards or getting tackled for a loss. The great thing is, we just stuck to our game plan. We knew that if we just kept pounding away that eventually they were going to crack.”

Giants are 11-1 ATS in their last 12 games vs. a team with a winning record.
Giants are 22-6 ATS in their last 28 games overall.

Key Injuries - S James Butler (ankle) is questionable.
OL Gerris Wilkinson (knee) is questionable.
LB Jonathan Goff (concussion) is questionable.

PROJECTED SCORE: 31 (OVER - Total Play of the Day)

Cardinals: Arizona can clinch the NFC West with a win against the Giants, which would be their first division title since 1975. The Cardinals will be hosting the team that won the Super Bowl in their stadium just nine months ago, and former New York QB Kurt Warner will also get an opportunity to exact some revenge. “We know we are going to meet the best,” Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett said. “This is the best team in football.”

Cardinals are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 games overall.
The OVER is 23-9 in Arizona's last 32 games overall.

Key Injuries - TE Ben Patrick (knee) is questionable.
TE Jerame Tuman (ankle) is questionable.

PROJECTED SCORE: 28



Indianapolis Colts at San Diego Chargers [NBC | 8:15 PM ET]

Colts: Indy is finally starting to gain some momentum, winning three straight games after sitting at 3-4. Colts head coach Tony Dungy believes the win over the Texans last week was a good challenge and showed him they were certainly capable of winning a shootout. “(The Houston game) was a big win for us, one we definitely needed to get that home win and another division win,” Dungy said. “But our offense really clicked, maybe for the first time all year on all cylinders. We got our running game going, and that got us some looks at some one-on-one (pass) coverage on the outside. I thought we had some clutch drives answering some of the (Texans’) scores."

Colts are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
The OVER is 6-2 in Indy's last 8 games vs. AFC.

Key Injuries - CB Kelvin Hayden (knee) is questionable.
S Bob Sanders (ankle) is questionable.

PROJECTED SCORE: 23

Chargers (-3, O/U 49): San Diego RB LaDainian Tomlinson has been vocal about his desire to see the Chargers become more of a running team, and he is becoming increasingly concerned about their playoff hopes following a tough 11-10 loss at Pittsburgh last week. "Whenever you keep blowing opportunities, then at some point as they say, opportunities don’t come about anymore,” Tomlinson said. “It’s like when the opportunity comes, you open the door and take it, and if you don’t, it will pass you by and go to someone else.”

Chargers are 9-2 ATS in their last 11 home games.
The UNDER is 5-1 in San Diego's last 6 games overall.

Key Injuries -CB Cletis Gordon (knee) is questionable.
CB Steve Gregory (shoulder) is questionable.
DE Jacques Cesaire (knee) is questionable.

PROJECTED SCORE: 27


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Hey, I'm new here. :howdy:

ACE-ACE, thanks a lot for all this great info!
I've learned a lot already and I will be approaching games in a different way now!

I'm having a pretty good season thus far and this forum will only help out more.


more heads are better than one...therx players are the best and give you a window into there world:toast:
 

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tonight game........................plays...sides...m/l...o/u

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over is big with public:think2:


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11/17 TB RB C. Williams (knee) ques</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__4 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Circle Game</TD><TD>11/19 5:44 P</TD><TD>(203) 11/19 DAL RB F. Jones (hamstring) returned to practice Wednesday and expected to play</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__5><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 4:38 P</TD><TD>(217) 11/23 Play on Seattle Seahawks (3.5-110)</TD><TD>CRIS (33-31,-1.22)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__6 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 4:37 P</TD><TD>(221) 11/23 Play on San Diego Chargers (-1-115)</TD><TD>CRIS (33-31,-1.22)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__7><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 4:37 P</TD><TD>(205) 11/23 Play on OU Under Detroit Lions (42u-105)</TD><TD>CRIS (7-11,-4.70)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__8 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 4:35 P</TD><TD>(213) 11/23 Play on Atlanta Falcons (0-120)</TD><TD>Bodog (2-1,+0.85)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__9><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 3:00 P</TD><TD>(219) 11/23 Play on OU Under Arizona Cardinals (49u-110)</TD><TD>CRIS (7-11,-4.70)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__10 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgreen"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 11:16 A</TD><TD>(213) 11/23 Play on Atlanta Falcons (0-110)</TD><TD>Grande (13-7,+4.95)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__11><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 9:25 A</TD><TD>(219) 11/23 Play on Arizona Cardinals (3.5-120)</TD><TD>WSEX (7-6,+0.35)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__12 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/19 9:02 A</TD><TD>(217) 11/23 Play on OU Over Seattle Seahawks (40o-110)</TD><TD>ABC (4-7,-3.40)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__13><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 7:26 P</TD><TD>(221) 11/23 Play on San Diego Chargers (-2.5-105)</TD><TD>5Dimes (24-25,-4.24)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__14 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 6:00 P</TD><TD>(207) 11/23 Play on Philadelphia Eagles (2.5-110)</TD><TD>ThePig (34-30,+0.60)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__15><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 5:52 P</TD><TD>(217) 11/23 Play on Seattle Seahawks (3.5-105)</TD><TD>Bet Jamaica (15-13,+0.58)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__16 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 3:11 P</TD><TD>(219) 11/23 Play on Arizona Cardinals (3.5-115)</TD><TD>Phoenix (9-10,-1.53)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__17 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgreen"><TD>Steam Move</TD><TD>11/18 2:25 P</TD><TD>(203) 11/23 Play on San Francisco 49ers 12</TD><TD>5Dimes (12-6,+5)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__18 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Circle Game</TD><TD>11/18 2:20 P</TD><TD>(219) 11/18 NYG RB B. Jacobs (knee) downgraded to ques 11/17 ARI S A. Wilson (suspension) ques
</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__19><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 2:06 P</TD><TD>(199) 11/23 Play on Tennessee Titans (-4.5-110)</TD><TD>ThePig (34-30,+0.60)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__20 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 1:07 P</TD><TD>(105) 11/20 Play on OU Under Pittsburgh Steelers (36u-110)</TD><TD>ABC (4-7,-3.40)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__21><TD>Steam Move</TD><TD>11/18 12:23 P</TD><TD>(199) 11/23 Play on New York Jets 6</TD><TD>Pinnacle (3-2,+0.7)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__22 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 12:03 P</TD><TD>(203) 11/23 Play on Dallas Cowboys (-10.5+100)</TD><TD>ThePig (34-30,+0.60)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__23><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 10:11 A</TD><TD>(217) 11/23 Play on Seattle Seahawks (3.5-105)</TD><TD>ThePig (34-30,+0.60)</TD></TR><TR class=GridRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__24 style="FONT-SIZE: xx-small; HEIGHT: 20px"><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 8:12 A</TD><TD>(225) 11/24 Play on New Orleans Saints (-2.5-105)</TD><TD>Bet Jamaica (15-13,+0.58)</TD></TR><TR class=GridAltRow_Sunset id=ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_gridAlerts_ctl00__25><TD>Smart $</TD><TD>11/18 12:42 A</TD><TD>(225) 11/24 Play on New Orleans Saints (-2.5-105)</TD><TD>CRIS (33-31,-1.22)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DIRECT FROM NEVADA
WITH NICK BOGDANOVICH
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]IT WAS THE WORST CALL I'VE SEEN IN MY LIFE![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There's been a lot of talk in the media the past few days about that crazy ending to the San Diego/Pittsburgh game this past Sunday. I can tell you it was a madhouse at the sportsbooks because nobody knew for sure who won. Pittsburgh bettors wanted to cash their tickets. San Diego bettors were hoping the officials would bail them out. It took a long time for the game to go official.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When it finally did, more bedlam![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What's been lost in the national media coverage has been the simplest point. The officials blew the call. I knew the TD should have counted when I was watching it live. The replays confirmed it. I don't know how the refs could go under the hood and come out with a different answer. It was impossible to overrule that play![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maybe the media is too close to the NFL to want to focus on poor officiating. This has been a horrible year for the pro refs. They instituted instant replay many years ago to eliminate situations like this. But, they still keep finding a way to screw everything up.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The media focused on variations of "63 million dollars changing hands" or whatever. I'm not sure how they came up with that number. I can tell you that the books in general needed San Diego there. Not every single one did. My employers actually needed Pittsburgh in that game. Most places though were rooting for the dog because of parlay cards. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Remember the late games Sunday?[/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Favored San Francisco covered against St. Louis[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Favored Arizona covered against Seattle[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Favored Tennessee covered against Jacksonville in the time change game[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If Pittsburgh had covered, that would have been four for four on the favorites. The public was all over Dallas in the night game, and that ended up winning too. It was almost a barbecue for sportsbooks in the late action. The ruling in favor of San Diego helped reduce the carnage. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]But, nobody should get the idea that any conspiracies were involved. It was plain old incompetence. Refs keep getting the calls wrong. I can tell you, if I had placed a big bet on Pittsburgh I would have wanted to take poison after that blown call. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I also heard some Fantasy Football guys complaining about the call because some leagues reward defensive points. Guys rooting for the Pittsburgh defense got hosed there. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The big story should have been "Refs screw up again" instead of anything suggesting conspiracies. For one thing, anyone involved in an actual conspiracy wouldn't be that obvious about it! Some sportsbooks were rooting for Pittsburgh. Others were rooting for San Diego. I'm not sure who the island places were rooting for. They don't have parlay cards to sweat. This was just like any other game. Last second plays determine who cashes their tickets all the time. What was special here was that it was a horrible officiating call. The fact that "money changed hands" is irrelevant.[/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You could argue a coin flip determined who covered the Thursday night overtime game between the Jets and the Patriots last week. If the Patriots win the flip, maybe they push with a field goal or cover with a touchdown. There weren't any stories about "coin flip" conspiracies coming out of Nevada. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Money changed hands in the final seconds of Stanford/USC. The Cardinal scored a TD on their last play of the game to sneak in the back door. There weren't any news stories about that. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Moneyline bets would have gone to Buffalo if they had made a last second field goal Monday night. Instead, those who bet on underdog Cleveland to win outright cashed their bets when the kick went wide right. Did you read any stories about the Nevada angle of that? [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Late plays changing who gets to cash their tickets happen all the time! That's not a story. Three pointers at the buzzer in basketball determining who covers. Empty net goals in hockey turning an Under into an Over. Two run homers with two outs in the bottom of the 9th inning changing a side or total winner. Have you ever read mainstream media stories about the Nevada angle on any of that stuff? This happens in Pittsburgh and suddenly "millions of dollars change hands in Nevada" is the big story? [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maybe the press should use some instant replay on their own coverage so they can get some perspective![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Things could get crazy again this weekend in Las Vegas and Reno because of Rivalry Saturday in college football. The public loves betting those rivalry games because they have such great histories. It's also the last full Saturday of college action. Bettors really send it when they know a season is about to end.[/FONT]​
 

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HI ACE:

Do you post your CBB and NBA picks in these forums? If so where would they be? I see you are on fire in CBB over at "your place of employment" - where could one find those picks on this site?

thanks for all your help.
 

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HI ACE:

Do you post your CBB and NBA picks in these forums? If so where would they be? I see you are on fire in CBB over at "your place of employment" - where could one find those picks on this site?

thanks for all your help.


posted them around this time every thursday
link to my CFB picks
http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?p=6041792#post6041792
post #178

Nfl will be in this thread in about 20 min's

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this pick was posted early
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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->TALKING ABOUT THE PITT GAME...

THE OVER AND UNDER STARTED AT 36

WHEN THIS HAPPEN
....................................................................OVER AND UNDER
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8:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>105 Cincinnati Bengals
106 Pittsburgh Steelers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>12714
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>48%
52%
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69%
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19%
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OVER IS PUBLIC PLAY WITH EARLY BETS ON THE OVER





BUT



IT OPEN AT 36.....ITS NOW <TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145551 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145551', event)"><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>36 -110
-10.5-110
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-10.5-110
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>34.5 A DROP OF 1.1/2 POINTS...CHI/BOOK TOLD ME ABOUT IT GETTING HIT "UNDER"...BY "KEY"

IF YOU LOOK AT MY LINE ON THIS IN THIS THREAD...IT WAS ON THIS GAME
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A VALUE OF +7.39...i DID NOT GET IT AT 36.5....BUT AT 36...FOR $600.00

WAS GOING TO DO MY ...BUT MISS THE BOAT!!!..

DO WHAT YOU LIKE...JUST REPORTING....AA
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$600.00‘Under’ 36 Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (8 p.m., Thursday, Nov. 20)
I think that weather is certainly going to be a factor tonight in Pittsburgh. We are looking at temperatures in the 20's, high winds, and possible snow flurries. On top of that the Cincinnati defense has been playing better (holding Philly's offense to just 13 points last week) and Pittsburgh has one of the top units in the NFL. Three of the last four in this series have stayed 'under' and three of Cincy's last four games have stayed 'under'. Chad Johnson is out for the Bengals and that is one less weapon for them to use.


 

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You could argue a coin flip determined who covered the Thursday night overtime game between the Jets and the Patriots last week. If the Patriots win the flip, maybe they push with a field goal or cover with a touchdown. There weren't any stories about "coin flip" conspiracies coming out of Nevada.
Money changed hands in the final seconds of Stanford/USC. The Cardinal scored a TD on their last play of the game to sneak in the back door. There weren't any news stories about that.
Moneyline bets would have gone to Buffalo if they had made a last second field goal Monday night. Instead, those who bet on underdog Cleveland to win outright cashed their bets when the kick went wide right. Did you read any stories about the Nevada angle of that?

I like reading Nick's article's but there is NO comparison between these three games and the Pit/SD game. None of those three had the refs changing correct calls to incorrect calls after the game was over.
 

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my CFB pick link.... post#178
http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?p=6041792#post6041792


$600.00‘Under’ 36 Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (8 p.m., Thursday, Nov. 20)
I think that weather is certainly going to be a factor tonight in Pittsburgh. We are looking at temperatures in the 20's, high winds, and possible snow flurries. On top of that the Cincinnati defense has been playing better (holding Philly's offense to just 13 points last week) and Pittsburgh has one of the top units in the NFL. Three of the last four in this series have stayed 'under' and three of Cincy's last four games have stayed 'under'. Chad Johnson is out for the Bengals and that is one less weapon for them to use.

$800.00 #202 San Francisco (+10.5) over Dallas (1 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 23)
Everyone thinks that Dallas is back to dominating just because they have Tony Romo back. But this team still has a lot of flaws and they have not been a strong play as a big favorite. Dallas is just 3-10 ATS against other teams from the NFC and they are playing a 49ers team that is finally playing with some life.

$2500.00 #212 Jacksonville (-2) over Minnesota (1 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 23)
The Jaguars played great football for one half last week against Tennessee. I think their season is already finished as far as the postseason is concerned but they are still playing for their lives. Minnesota is not a very strong road team and they just cannot move the ball through the air. The Jags are 16-5-1 ATS after scoring less than 15 points in a game and the Vikings are 1-5 ATS on the road.

$500.00 #208 Baltimore (-1) over Philadelphia (1 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 23)
If Philadelphia cannot beat Cincinnati on the road I don't think that they can beat the Ravens on the road. The bottom line is that the Eagles just have not been very good over the last month and it's time to keep betting against the Reid-McNabb combo. The Eagles have had the distraction of the whole "tie" situation this week and I just don't think they will move the ball with their passing attack against a Ravens defense that was humiliated last week against the Giants. Baltimore has covered four of five at home.

$400.00 #215 Oakland (+9.5) over Denver (4 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 23)
Oakland has revenge in this game for getting embarrassed on Monday Night Football to open the season. Denver has won two wild games in a row on the road and I think that they might be emotionally spent. The Broncos have not been a good ATS team this season as a favorite and they are still just 9-24-1 ATS over the last few years. Denver is also 3-11-1 ATS after a win and they are 5-16-1 ATS at home.

$800.00 #214 Atlanta (-1) over Carolina (4 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 23)
Any time that a team with a better record is an underdog against a team that usually means the team with the worse record is going to win. Atlanta did not play well in the second half against Denver last week but they have still been a very strong team this season. The Panthers were sleeping through the first half against a terrible Detroit team at home last week and I think are ripe for an upset. Carolina is 3-7-1 ATS in their last 11 games in Atlanta and Jake Delhomme is not taking care of the ball.

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OAK+19.5...................$480/$400


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ace/ace..........

thank you for all the efforts, both college and pro.....g/l this week-end

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Wow ace, I agree with all your picks this week I love it but your still showing Dallas no love. Other than getting Romo and Witten back, they also got back a few key defensive players back. I like S.F. plus the points because that's a lot of chalk against a very different and motivated S.F. But Dallas is a very different team also and we will see what they are really made of in the next couple of weeks. Love your input ace.
 

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your picks are eerily similar to my leans ...i like waiting until saturday night to place my bets after the friday practice reports come out...naturally i stand to risk the fact that the lines could move against me.

thank you for posting the lines
 

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<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145686 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145686', event)"><TD id=score width=50>
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>195 Houston Texans
196 Cleveland Browns
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>6761
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>31%
69%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>89%
11%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>59%
41%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145689 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145689', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>197 Buffalo Bills
198 Kansas City Chiefs
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>8926
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>10%
90%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>71%
29%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145692 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145692', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>199 New York Jets
200 Tennessee Titans
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>17163
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>92%
8%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>83%
17%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145695 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145695', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>201 New England Patriots
202 Miami Dolphins
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>18522
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>86%
14%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>68%
32%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145698 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145698', event)"><TD id=score width=50>
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>203 San Francisco 49ers
204 Dallas Cowboys
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>18456
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>53%
47%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>77%
23%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>67%
33%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145701 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145701', event)"><TD id=score width=50>
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>205 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
206 Detroit Lions
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>12384
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>57%
43%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>38%
62%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>81%
19%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145704 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145704', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>207 Philadelphia Eagles
208 Baltimore Ravens
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>13797
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>42%
58%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>56%
44%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145707 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145707', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>209 Chicago Bears
210 St. Louis Rams
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>6114
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>57%
43%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>74%
26%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145710 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145710', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>211 Minnesota Vikings
212 Jacksonville Jaguars
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>11474
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>38%
62%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>77%
23%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>80%
20%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145713 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145713', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
4:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>213 Carolina Panthers
214 Atlanta Falcons
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>11843
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>11%
89%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>69%
31%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145716 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145716', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
4:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>215 Oakland Raiders
216 Denver Broncos
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>12754
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>39%
61%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>47%
53%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>67%
33%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145719 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145719', event)"><TD id=score width=50>
4:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>217 Washington Redskins
218 Seattle Seahawks
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>12305
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>75%
25%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>43%
57%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>47%
53%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145722 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145722', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/23
4:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>219 New York Giants
220 Arizona Cardinals
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>17730
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>81%
19%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>92%
8%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>78%
22%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145725 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e145725', event)"><TD id=score width=50>
8:15P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>221 Indianapolis Colts
222 San Diego Chargers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>18826
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>69%
31%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>97%
3%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>53%
47%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e145734 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e145734', event)"><TD id=score width=50>11/24
8:35P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>225 Green Bay Packers
226 New Orleans Saints
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>13110
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>78%
22%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>90%
10%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>73%
27%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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