Exbookie Wants To Help The Players Week 1 Regseason

[ACE-ACE]

Myline,lineoff,time,plt,t/o...all helps me come up the the line before the line comes out!...my friend Nick did this with Preseason...his way...check it out:aktion033



[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]HOW ODDSMAKERS CREATE NFL PRESEASON GAME LINES[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]You might be surprised to learn that there's a very simple process oddsmakers use for making NFL exhibition lines.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Trust your gut![/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]This isn't an area where you can create valid power ratings of any type. In fact, your regular season power ratings don't even matter much. Some great teams could care less about exhibition action...and they post results that might suggest they were one of the worst teams in the league. Some truly lousy teams can have great preseasons if their backups can put some points on the board against opponents who don't care. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Here's the basic process...[/FONT]

• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Assume everyone's about even...in that most teams don't care that much. The NFL is a league of parity to begin with. In the regular season, everyone cares. In the preseason, hardly anyone cares! That means you're dealing with a very tight range of expectations.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Allot 2-3 points for home field advantage, based mostly on how that team has done in the past when playing at home in the preseason. There are some teams who don't deserve anything for home field because they're just going through the motions. They've already sold out the regular season, so there's no marketing to be done by winning either. Occasionally, a situation will pop up where a home team is going to play a high energy game on national TV, and the visitor may mentally no-show. Obviously you can allot more than 2-3 points for that scenario.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Adjust a point or two for public teams. You want to charge the public a premium for betting on their favorite teams. When they bet Preseason games, that's generally who they take. You know, the public never imagines themselves winning nailbiters. They always lay those extra points, even when the original spread was too high in the first place.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Adjust based on what information you've gathered about which teams care and which teams don't. More about this in a moment.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Let the money guide you to any possible mistakes. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]It's probably safe to say that the oddsmaking process in the Preseason is a "race to information" between the oddsmakers and the sharps. Both groups are trying to find out who cares, who's going to play their starters longer, who's going to see quality intensity from the backup quarterback, etc... If the oddsmakers get there first, then the number goes up before the money...and the sharps have to pass the game. If the sharps get there first, then their money drives the number up to where it should be. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The public has easy access to this kind of information through the internet. Most just don't make the effort to try and find it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I'd like to tell you that there's a complicated, time tested, computer-perfected formula for making Preaseason lines. It just isn't true. There's no way to do that properly given the various levels of intensity across the league. The math approach works best when motivation is even for everyone. Since that's not the case in August...and since oddsmakers HAVE to put up numbers in preseason games...the gut rules the day. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]How can YOU beat the numbers if the oddsmakers themselves have so little besides experience and media research to go on?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Well, for one, you have to join the information race. If you can't do that for all 32 teams, try following your favorite team or teams very closely on the internet. It's safe to say that avid Cowboys fans know their team better than the oddsmakers do...that avid Browns fans do as well. Pick a team...fanatics are well informed about them. Instead of trying to play hunches all over the board, or taking shots in TV games, just try to get the games right involving your favorite team or teams. There's no crime in passing a game either. Sometimes the options are a virtual coin flip. You don't make money betting on those. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I personally think there's a lot of money to be made by looking at coaching histories too. Some coaches care so little, while others care so much...that you can pick off the extremes and exploit your advantages. I can already tell you some veteran coaches will lose at least two games by double digits. Yet, no preseason games will have lines that high. I've got my eye on some potential road underdog spots where the visitor will care more about the result...and will likely win straight up by at least a touchdown. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]And, we haven't even talked about totals yet! This has gotten very simplified in recent years. Two relatively dead teams will see a number around 32-33. If there might be a little fire in the game, maybe you'll see a 35-36. Occasionally a team makes it clear they're going to be going bombs away all month...and the number shoots higher. I know a lot of sharps who have cleaned up betting Unders the past few seasons. You should be trying to find ideal under bets so you can join them in the winner's circle. Get ready for a lot of 13-10 or 16-7 type games in the first couple of weeks. Vegas never posts numbers anywhere near that low. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]If you don't believe you're up to speed with the teams right now, here's a way you can "reverse engineer" the process to figure out what the oddsmakers or sharps might be thinking. [/FONT]

• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Take the first full week of NFL Preseason games.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pencil in a line of -2 and 33 for every home team. Don't even look at the names involved yet. Just pencil in -2 and 33 in every game.
  
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• [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Find the games that DON'T have that line and total, and see if you can figure out WHY![/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Is a public team involved? Is a marquee playoff team from last year involved? Have you heard any talk about the head coach wanting to make a statement? Do you recall any results from prior preseasons that might explain why a known contender is getting so little respect in the line? [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Continue your research by reading NFL.com, or the pro football home page at espn.com. Check out some handicapping articles at sports information sites. Then, watch the games and see what happens![/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]You'll find out pretty quickly which sources can be trusted for information, and which line moves deserve respect. You'll be up to speed by the second week if you're not there now. Nothing wrong with a little thinking and research before the betting begins. More squares should do this. Squares need to DOUBLE their thinking and cut their number of bets in half![/FONT]

 

[desi]

ACE, staying in michigan? or moving to vegas?

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Ace-Ace...please get my e-mail from Wil and give me back some of the money I gave you years ago...that would be a nice gesture....LOL

 

[ACE-ACE]

ACE, staying in michigan? or moving to vegas?

for now moving in with my woman...than I have to sell her home and we are coming to Vegas...could take a few year...still have to fix her place.

 

[ACE-ACE]

Ace-Ace...please get my e-mail from Wil and give me back some of the money I gave you years ago...that would be a nice gesture....LOL

you have to fight it out with 100 more rx poster when I give away some money in a contest Iam planning....this way everyone has a shoot.

 

[candylicker]

Ace there 1 more that i like and was wondering if this was on your radar. with the browns pretty much playing above their means last year, they had a soft schedule, this year much different out of the gate, i do believe there is much value with under 8+130. would lov your thougghts on this

 

[ACE-ACE]

Ace there 1 more that i like and was wondering if this was on your radar. with the browns pretty much playing above their means last year, they had a soft schedule, this year much different out of the gate, i do believe there is much value with under 8+130. would lov your thougghts on this

Out of the 32 team there was 8 team I was down to before I made those two picks cleve under was one of them...Before I would bet them...I would have to think they would only win 6-7...After looking at everything its close to 7-8...but you are right if I was to bet this It would be under!
Just more find on the other two plays.

 

[candylicker]

Thanks ace, I do appreciate your time, and wisdom which is so much more important than a pick. Dont get me wrong Ill take yhay to. Have yourself a good day

 

[ESQAJM]

Ace: Read that article above wtitten by Nick. A lot of his concepts I use in my own preseason system. Good stuff. One of the better articles I have ever read about preseason betting.
Tailed you on both of your season total picks.

If you really are going to move to LV I would stick my toes in the water now and check out some houses. Whatever the price is offer 50% less. The housing market in LV is so bad that its almost impossible to sell a house now. I stay in Henderson twice a year with my sister in a community of about 2500 homes. Every block has 4-6 For Sale signs. The homes are just not selling even though prices have come way down. If you can get a real good buy, it might be worth buying now, even though you are not going to move for a year.

 

[ACE-ACE]

Ace: Read that article above wtitten by Nick. A lot of his concepts I use in my own preseason system. Good stuff. One of the better articles I have ever read about preseason betting.
Tailed you on both of your season total picks.

If you really are going to move to LV I would stick my toes in the water now and check out some houses. Whatever the price is offer 50% less. The housing market in LV is so bad that its almost impossible to sell a house now. I stay in Henderson twice a year with my sister in a community of about 2500 homes. Every block has 4-6 For Sale signs. The homes are just not selling even though prices have come way down. If you can get a real good buy, it might be worth buying now, even though you are not going to move for a year.

I have a big lot that I got back before anyone knew about Pahrump...Got it for $20k back 1998...Iam been offer $120k for it...just not sure if I want to be 45 min's north of Las Vegas... not sure what I can get now for it...thing I will wait it out...dont need the money and still could build a home on it. I alway look at your picks in the preseason and I wish you the best this year. AA

 

[ACE-ACE]

THURSDAY'S GAMES 8/7/08

NY Giants - QB Rotation: Eli Manning (1-2 series), Anthony Wright (will follow), David Carr, rookie Andre Woodson.

Starters will not go past the first quarter. Eli Manning will start Thursday in Detroit but won't play very long. "We'll probably try to play them all, Eli just a little bit and then play the other guys," said Coughlin, who added Anthony Wright will follow Manning.

HC Coughlin is concerned with a number of minor but nagging injuries that have cut into the Giants' depth. The newest injury is starting right guard Chris Snee, who sat out with a sore shoulder and will have an MRI to see why he's experiencing discomfort. Kevin Booth replaced Snee with the first unit.

Several players will not play in Detroit, leaving the receiver corps especially thin with the absences of Plaxico Burress (ankle), Steve Smith (groin), David Tyree (knee) and Mario Manningham (quad). Amani Toomer (leg) will play briefly. Brandon London sat out Tuesday practice with a hip flexor. His status for the game is unknown.

Backup guard Shane Olivea sat again and will have tests to determine the extent of the injury to his back. After saying he would not get on the field until next week, linebacker Gerris Wilkinson passed his physical, was removed from the physically unable to perform list and finally made his training camp debut, working with the third-team defense.

Detroit Lions - QB Rotation: Jon Kitna, Drew Stanton, Dan Orlovsky.

QB Drew Stanton has been the No. 3 quarterback since camp opened and has struggled at times.

WRs thin. Shaun McDonald (knee) and tight end Dan Campbell (elbow) will be held out until next Monday.

HC Rod Marinelli's primary objective remains evaluating players. But playing against another team is an important part of the process. "I'll have a better feel when we play somebody else as we go," Marinelli said. "What I do like about them is their hustle. They're working on the details."

The defense is beginning its third year in the Tampa Two system, and it's the second year under coordinator Joe Barry, while Jim Colletto is the new offensive coordinator.

Defensive coordinator Joe Barry wants his defense to be aggressive and create turnovers.

NY Jets - QB Rotation: Chad Pennington, Kellen Clemens, rookie Erik Ainge, Brett Ratliff.

Secretive Eric Mangini didn't reveal his starting quarterback, saying he hadn't yet picked between Chad Pennington and Kellen Clemens.

"There's a lot of factors that go into that, so I'll get together post-practice, watch the tape," Mangini said. "I'll spend some time with the staff, see what their input is and then make a decision after that. But you've got to also look at who's playing in terms of the offensive line, some of the other things that go into the mix."

The offense is in the third year of offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer's high-tech scheme that features an array of shifts and motions.

Cleveland Browns - QB Rotation: Derek Anderson (1st Q), Brady Quinn (2nd-3rd Qs), Ken Dorsey (4th Q).

HC Romeo Crennel said he'll play the starters for about a quarter, maybe a little more. Quinn will then play in the second and third quarters and Ken Dorsey will play the fourth.

Brady Quinn, who's been somewhat in erratic in camp so far, might get an entire half Thursday night to get his rhythm going. "When we take Derek Anderson out, we'll put Brady in, maybe a half," said coach Crennel.

The change Browns have made a change in defensive coordinators from Todd Grantham to Mel Tucker.

WR Joe Jurevicius is out until November with an infected knee, while offensive lineman Ryan Tucker is expected back later this month after June hip surgery.

4-year LB David McMillan -- and not rookie Alex Hall -- gets first crack at replacing injured Antwan Peek as the strong (left) side pass rusher in nickel defenses. McMillan had been working behind the starters at strong and weak outside linebacker until Peek had arthroscopic knee surgery last week. Peek will miss the entire preseason.

Baltimore Ravens - QB Rotation: Kyle Boller (1st half), Troy Smith (3rd Q), rookie Joe Flacco (4th Q).

Kyle Boller will be the Ravens' starting quarterback. HC Harbaugh said Boller likely will go most of the first half against the Patriots. Troy Smith and first-round pick Joe Flacco will split time in the second half.

QB Smith has looked good in camp, Flacco is still up and down. Smith will start the second preseason game.

John Harbaugh is the new head coach, the former Philadelphia Eagles secondary coach. Harbaugh has never been a head coach during his 24 seasons.

Harbaugh said no one has taken the lead in the team's quarterback race. Throughout training camp, Kyle Boller, Troy Smith and Joe Flacco have rotated with the starting offense.

RB Ray Rice will start against New England, with RB Willis McGahee (knee) not 100%.

Wide receivers thin. Tight end Todd Heap (right calf) and WR Mark Clayton (sprained right shoulder) are ailing, along with WR Demetrius Williams (leg).

Harbaugh has been running the players hard, a physical practice. One team official estimated that Harbaugh has had more full-contact plays in his first week than Billick had in his entire camp last year.

New England Patriots - QB Rotation: Tom Brady, Matt Cassel, Matt Gutierrez, rookie Kevin O'Connell.

QB Tom Brady was limping in practice this weekend (calf). Cassel, Gutierrez and rookie Kevin O'Connell are all battling for the No. 2 QB job.

Offensive line thin. The Patriots' signing of veteran free-agent offensive lineman John Welbourn is an indication that the team's decision-makers have concerns with the depth along the line. They have 11 linemen, meaning only two layers of a depth chart could be filled (three layers would be ideal).

Tackle is the specific trouble spot, with Matt Light, Ryan O'Callaghan and Oliver Ross (PUP) all sidelined -- and Anthony Clement placed on injured reserve Saturday. Guard Stephen Neal is also on PUP. The second line is comprised of Barry Stokes, Dan Connolly, Russ Hochstein, Pete McMahon and Jimmy Martin and rookie free agent Ryan Wendell. Those six are likely to earn the bulk of the playing time Thursday, essentially serving as the second and third string.

K.C. Chiefs - QB Rotation: Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard.

Coach Herm Edwards said that Brodie Croyle's job is safe and that he will enter training camp as the starter. "It's his team now," Edwards said.

Last year's starter Damon Huard is now the No. 3 quarterback, behind second-year passer Tyler Thigpen.

The Chiefs remain impressed by rookie running back Jamaal Charles' speed.

Rookie defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, the centerpiece of their rebuilding effort, injured his left knee in practice Saturday. Dorsey won't play Thursday but Edwards said he was hopeful Dorsey could play in the against Arizona on Aug. 16. Tank Tyler, a third-round draft pick last year, will replace Dorsey in the starting lineup.

Chicago Bears - QB Rotation: Kyle Orton (1st Q), Rex Grossman (2nd Q), Caleb Hanie (see below).

QB Kyle Orton will start Thursday, with Rex Grossman also playing in the first half. HC Lovie Smith plans to play the first team the entire first half so both quarterbacks get plenty of opportunities. The two QBs will flip-flop roles next week at Seattle, with Grossman getting the starting nod.

Running back depth a concern after cutting loose RB Cedric Benson. Rookie RB Matt Forte will start this game.

O-line concerns: Rookie 1st round pick left tackle Chris Williams has a back problem and is probably out. His continued absence threatens to alter the Bears' plans for him this season.

Williams was drafted No. 14 overall in the belief he would step right in at left tackle, with John Tait shifting to the right side. John St. Clair has been working with the first team at left tackle, but odds were he'd start the season at left guard instead of Terrence Metcalf.

Injuries have hampered the offensive line from the start of camp. Center Olin Kreutz missed some time with a sore Achilles' tendon. Then Williams went down. Now Metcalf has missed the last two practices with a knee injury and wasn't at practice Sunday.

New Orleans Saints - QB Rotation: Drew Brees (1st Q), Mark Brunell (2nd Q), Tyler Palko (3rd Q).

Sean Payton said QB Drew Brees will likely play the first quarter, but could take a seat a little earlier depending on how many plays he gets. The second rotation should play sometime after that first quarter, with third-teamers taking over during the third period. Backup QB Mark Brunell may play into the third quarter before Tyler Palko finishes up.

WR Marques Colston (knee) is questionable, while WR Devery Henderson (hamstring injury) is out.

RB Deuce McAllister, TE Jeremy Shockey and CB Mike McKenzie are among the players who won't play Thursday.

To help the defense, the Saints paid particular offseason attention to the line, adding free-agent defensive end Bobby McCray and drafting defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis with the seventh overall pick. They also added cornerback Randall Gay via free agency.

Offense has new looks, with a healthy RB Deuce McAllister, new TE Jeremy Shockey, and speedy WR Robert Meachem, who was inactive for all 16 games last season.

Arizona Cardinals - QB Rotation: Matt Leinart (1-2 series), Kurt Warner (1-2 series), Brian St. Pierre, rookie Anthony Morelli.

QB Matt Leinart will start at quarterback, and Kurt Warner is likely to get some work behind the first-team line, too. That means neither quarterback is likely to play beyond two series.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is handing off most of the offensive play-calling duties for the upcoming season to coordinator Todd Haley.

WRs thin. WR Anquan Boldin (hamstring) is not 100% and WR Early Doucet (hamstring) could miss the first preseason game.

O-line concerns: Cardinals starting center Al Johnson underwent surgery on his left knee last week, and the team is hoping he can return by the first or second game of the season. The Cardinals have taken two serious hits at center. Third-team center Scott Peters suffered a severe knee injury and is out for the season.

Backup Lyle Sendlein is a capable starter, but there isn't much depth. Coaches discussed the possibility of moving guard Elton Brown to center but decided Brown is young and needs the work at guard.

 

[ACE-ACE]

What the public is betting

..................................................side....m/l....O/U.....Parlay
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e136907 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"><TD id=score width=50>
7:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>243 New York Giants
244 Detroit Lions
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>47%
53%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>96%
4%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>73%
27%
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e136910 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2"><TD id=score width=50>
7:30P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>245 New York Jets
246 Cleveland Browns
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>20%
80%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>85%
15%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>79%
21%
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>43%
57%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e136919 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"><TD id=score width=50>
8:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>251 New Orleans Saints
252 Arizona Cardinals
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>39%
61%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>67%
33%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>71%
29%
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>53%
47%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e136913 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2"><TD id=score width=50>
7:30P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>247 Baltimore Ravens
248 New England Patriots
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>37%
63%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>63%
37%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>50%
50%
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>37%
63%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=gridtable><TBODY><TR id=e136916 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"><TD id=score width=50>
8:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>249 Kansas City Chiefs
250 Chicago Bears
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>22%
78%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>11%
89%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>49%
51%
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>26%
74%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


two public play on thursday CLEVE and CHI...stay away... both teams they only look at plays and not try to win

last year game one
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=teamInfo>Browns (0-1-0) </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>7 </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD> </TD><TD class=bold>7 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=teamInfo>Bears (0-1-0) </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>3 </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD>0 </TD><TD> </TD><TD class=bold>3 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

will update on again before game:toast:AA

 

[Alamorich]

Hello Mr. Ace

I have not been over to the Rx for months but it's just part of the NFL ritual to wish you a great NFL season. Good luck to you and gamblers everywhere!

 

[ACE-ACE]

Hello Mr. Ace

I have not been over to the Rx for months but it's just part of the NFL ritual to wish you a great NFL season. Good luck to you and gamblers everywhere!

Thanks that means alot...hope all is well:toast:AA

 

[Gravy]

FYI - Calling for Rain showers for the Game In Cleveland On Thursday Night

 

[ACE-ACE]

FYI - Calling for Rain showers for the Game In Cleveland On Thursday Night

I see only 30% on the rain...we will see

 

[Gravy]

I see only 30% on the rain...we will see

Well the local idiot weatherman said tonight there is a good chance that you will see rain for the game on Thursday night but like you said Ace we will see.

 

[Betsmart]

Ace,

what do you use to make your line? Is it complicated? Nice thread

 

[BORO]

<HR class=hrcolor width="100%" SIZE=1><TABLE style="TABLE-LAYOUT: fixed" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="85%" height="100%">NFL Pre-Season SU Records - Five-year trend
Team 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 Total (since '94)
Arizona Cardinals 0-0 0-4 2-2 3-1 1-3 24-32
Atlanta Falcons 0-0 3-1 2-2 4-1 2-2 34-25
Baltimore Ravens 0-0 1-2 2-2 2-2 3-1 31-24
Buffalo Bills 0-0 2-2 1-3 2-2 1-3 28-30
Carolina Panthers 0-0 1-3 4-0 2-2 4-0 26-26
Chicago Bears 0-0 3-1 2-2 3-2 2-2 25-32
Cincinnati Bengals 0-0 1-3 4-0 2-2 2-2 19-37
Cleveland Browns 0-0 3-1 2-2 3-1 3-1 19-18
Dallas Cowboys 0-0 2-2 3-0-1 3-1 3-1 24-34-1
Denver Broncos 0-0 2-2 3-1 4-0 2-3 41-20
Detroit Lions 0-0 2-2 1-3 1-3 2-2 22-33
Green Bay Packers 0-0 2-2 1-3 2-2 1-3 35-20
Houston Texans 0-0 2-2 3-1 1-3 1-3 7-17
Indianapolis Colts 0-0 1-3 1-3 0-5 2-2 31-28
Jacksonville Jaguars 0-0 3-1 3-1 2-2 2-1 33-20
Kansas City Chiefs 0-0 0-4 2-2 0-4 1-3 22-35
Miami Dolphins 0-0 2-2 2-2 1-4 2-2 32-28
Minnesota Vikings 0-0 2-2 2-1- 1 3-1 2-2 32-25-1
New England Patriots 0-0 2-2 2-2 2-2 1-2 34-23
New Orleans Saints 0-0 3-2 1-3 1-3 2-2 23-35
NY Giants 0-0 1-3 4-0 3-1 1-3 23-35
NY Jets 0-0 3-1 2-2 3-1 3-1 38-18
Oakland Raiders 0-0 2-2 4-1 1-3 3-1 35-25
Philadelphia Eagles 0-0 1-3 2-3 2-2 1-3 22-34
Pittsburgh Steelers 0-0 4-1 0-4 3-1 2-2 30-29
St. Louis Rams 0-0 2-2 1-3 3-1 1-2 23-33
San Diego Chargers 0-0 3-1 2-2 2-2 2-2 29-28
San Francisco 49ers 0-0 1-3 2-2 2-2 0-4 21-35
Seattle Seahawks 0-0 3-1 2-2 2-2 3-1 32-26
Tampa Bay Bucs 0-0 3-1 1-3 2-2 3-1 32-25
Tennessee Titans 0-0 3-1 1-3 1-3 3-1 28-28
Washington Redskins 0-0 2-2 0-4 1-3 3-2 24-33

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=smalltext vAlign=bottom width="85%">Looks like the Jets could be a good play.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[BORO]

It's hard to read but that's the way it came out.