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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

“Fast” charging is a gift that keeps on taking up your time.

Eric Peters

December 22, 2020, 12:37 PM

Would you wait 15 minutes to get a fast-food hamburger?

Electric cars will make you wait longer. This includes even those touted as being capable of receiving a “fast” charge in 15 minutes or so. Because you’ll have to wait for the car plugged in ahead of you to “fast” charge.

This assumes you’re second in line. If you’re third …

Well, they’ll just install more places to plug in. It is not as easy as it sounds because of the problem in physics of two objects not being able to occupy the same space at the same time. To achieve the same capacity to charge as many electric cars as a gas station is capable of refueling in an hour, it would be necessary to at least quintuple the physical size of the charging station to compensate for the quintupling of the time it takes to recharge each electric vehicle (EV) versus the time it takes to refuel a non-electric car.

At a gas station, a car occupies its spot at the pump for about five minutes; thus, in 15 minutes it is possible for a single pump to refuel three cars. But if it takes 15 minutes to recharge a single EV, it would take two more places to plug in — and the space for those additional two cars — to equal the throughput capability of the gas station’s single pump.

Well, they’ll figure out a way to reduce recharging time so it’s about the same as the time it takes to gas up a non-electric car. The problem there is that the faster you recharge a battery, the more you reduce its life — and increase the odds of a fire.

There is a reason why you trickle charge batteries — if possible.

This is usually not a problem — with lawn mower batteries, for example — because you have the time to wait. But it’s a problem with electric car batteries, if you don’t like to wait. Unless you don’t mind risking a fire. Or reducing the useful life of the battery — which costs a great deal more to replace than a lawn mower battery.

These batteries — EV batteries — are also enormous, mainly because people expect an EV to duplicate (at least) the performance capabilities of a non-electric car. To do that requires about 1,000 pounds of batteries on average, which increases by several orders of magnitude the demand for the raw materials that go into batteries. More energy is also required to make the batteries, the materials for which are among the least renewable things on the market.

You have probably heard of “peak oil.” We have been hearing about it for the past 60 years. You probably have not heard about “peak cobalt.” Expect to hear about it — but probably not until after non-electric cars have been regulated off the market. The cost of electric cars is a function of the cost of cobalt — including the human cost of this unpleasant but necessary substance for EV batteries.

There’s another problem, unique to things powered by electricity.

You cannot just pour in electricity, as you do with gasoline. Electricity doesn’t sit ready to go in storage tanks, underneath the pumps. It has to be transmitted as demanded — via cables from the generating source — and this requires cables of much greater capacity than your household extension cord.

This is why it is not possible to “fast” charge an EV at most private homes. You can reduce the waiting time from eight or more hours but not to 15 minutes. Not without upgrading your house to commercial-grade electric capacity.

And then there’s that increased risk of burning your house down.

And a word about “fast” charging — which even where feasible is only partial charging. You cannot fully “refill” a battery quickly — as you can fully refuel a non-electric car’s tank.

Which means more frequent charging.

Which, in turn, compounds the throughput problem as well as the charge-capacity and fire-potential problems, when you have all those electric cars recharging in a hurry, more frequently.

And losing their capacity to be recharged more quickly — the more often they are “fast” charged.

These are basic EV facts, but most people aren’t aware of them.

You are being sold on something you probably wouldn’t buy, if you knew what you were buying. EV pushers want you to think you are buying something else — something that makes sense. But if that were the case, why don’t they give you all the facts?

That they don’t ought to give you a moment’s pause.
 

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Where do these charging stations get their energy?
 

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They already tried this, we don't want it

The free market will decide, just like it did with the Chevy Volt

When batteries become more powerful with extended travel capabilities and recharge as easy as filling your tank, we'll buy electric vehicles
 

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If you've never driven a Tesla, you're missing out. They are FAST, major vroom vroom, like the old toy car sets that run on a black track

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They already tried this, we don't want it

The free market will decide, just like it did with the Chevy Volt

When batteries become more powerful with extended travel capabilities and recharge as easy as filling your tank, we'll buy electric vehicles

Who doesn't want falcon-wing doors?? :banger:

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Just bury them in a landfill.

Somewhere near Nancy Pelosi's house would be great.

I think that's illegal

Especially in Nancy's neighborhood, she's special
 

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I wonder how much money Eric Peters has made shorting Tesla?

Well, they’ll just install more places to plug in. It is not as easy as it sounds because of the problem in physics of two objects not being able to occupy the same space at the same time. To achieve the same capacity to charge as many electric cars as a gas station is capable of refueling in an hour, it would be necessary to at least quintuple the physical size of the charging station to compensate for the quintupling of the time it takes to recharge each electric vehicle (EV) versus the time it takes to refuel a non-electric car.

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This is why it is not possible to “fast” charge an EV at most private homes. You can reduce the waiting time from eight or more hours but not to 15 minutes. Not without upgrading your house to commercial-grade electric capacity.

The laws of physics does permit us to use the 'slow' charge at home, and 'fast' charge at charging stations. A full charge lasts 350 miles, so the only time someone will have to use the stations are the times they drive over 350 miles before going home, which means we would not need more physical space for charging stations than we currently have for gas stations.
 

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Tesla's are nice but they are for the upper wage earners, not the middle class and lower.
Yes they are supposed to be mass producing a lower cost vehicle, we shall see.

Tesla is more or less a shell game company, Musk knows how to make things look like they are good for Tesla by taking money from the other companies.
Also the they have gotten so much money/help from the government it should be a state owned entity by now.

I will give Musk his props, he is right up there with P.T. Barnum in how he runs these companies.
He has scammed the government and us out of so much money to keep his companies afloat he is a master con man.

Also in producing his cars he uses the same amount of resources as a regular, non electric cars takes to make
add in the fact the batteries are toxic waste when they need to be replaced and in order to charge these cars the electricity is being made by power plants that burn fossil fuels or nuclear. LOL

In the end how much are we actually reducing environmentally? Not much if at all to be perfectly honest.
 

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Tesla's are nice, no large SUVs, and still not good for long trips which I'm probe to do

Imagine getting stuck in gridlock? You have to plan your trips differently
 

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In the end how much are we actually reducing environmentally? Not much if at all to be perfectly honest.

This is a really great question. And what makes it so great, and what T Hawk and Eric Peters are trying to show us, is that the environmental impact is the most important thing about choosing which car to drive.
 
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Just like wind turbines they only last 15 years,are made in china,kill birds including eagles,are extremely expensive to tear down,cant be recycled & have to be put in special landfills even if they do get torn down after littering & uglying up the landscape for 20 years....Not worth it & this is another useless idea that libtards go for....They actually use more energy to build than the amount of energy they will ever produce....Libtarded idiot idea...
 

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Just like wind turbines they only last 15 years,are made in china,kill birds including eagles,are extremely expensive to tear down,cant be recycled & have to be put in special landfills even if they do get torn down after littering & uglying up the landscape for 20 years....Not worth it & this is another useless idea that libtards go for....They actually use more energy to build than the amount of energy they will ever produce....Libtarded idiot idea...

This is a really great point. It should not just be the auto industry, but all industries should make the environmental impact the primary focus of all their decisions. That is something the retarded Liberals will never understand.
 

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This is a really great point. It should not just be the auto industry, but all industries should make the environmental impact the primary focus of all their decisions. That is something the retarded Liberals will never understand.

The US is now ranked about 15th in pollution of industrialized nations. We have been declining with carbon emissions for over a decade.

The loon green earthers have zero clue what is going on.
 

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The US is now ranked about 15th in pollution of industrialized nations. We have been declining with carbon emissions for over a decade.

The loon green earthers have zero clue what is going on.

This a Great point. This proves that all the hard work we have done to reduce carbon emissions has worked and we must continue to focus on the environmental impact of the auto industry and all businesses. Anyone who doesn't understand how Great it is that the US is 15th is a retard. Make America Great Again.
 

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The problem with EV's is that "environmentalists" only compare the completed products, to arrive at the conclusion the EV's produce less emissions. Lithium does not grow on trees after all! The strip mining to extract lithium must by factored in when comparing the two. Also many of the comparisons look at older vehicles becoming less efficient therefore burning more fuel. EV's will require a new battery in 6-7 years, therefore doubling the production environmental impact. This is rarely factored in when drawing a comparison. When you factoring in the manufacturing of both types of vehicles, the fact the EV's will require a second battery, you are basically at a wash! No environmental benefits as of yet!



 

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I've never seen a car charging at one of those stations, doubt 'waiting in line' is a problem in my area, probably only in Cali so who cares
 

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