Early Final Four predictions

[Cappin'Guru]

st marys is better than texas, tennessee, marquette, mich st, kansas, kentucky, florida and syracuse.

people will see in the tournament that st marys is a damn good basketball team and pat mills might be the best PG in the nation..

Pat Mills is very, very good. I do agree that St. Mary's is a great team but you cannot mention them in the calibur of these other teams until it is basically tournament time. They are 15-1 or something to that nature with key wins over, ... well no one.

They meet with Gonzaga at the end of this month sometime and we can see more what they are really about. I keep up with the league out there and it is very amusing to watch these guys play quality basketball.

 

[papicker]

i agree with him that st marys is a good team i think gonzaga is pretty tough as well but marquette is at least as good as them was the point i was making so if you are going to say marquettes a joke pick then you have to say st marys is as well.

 

[Cappin'Guru]

North Carolina
Pittsburgh
UConn
St Marys

the original list is ridiculous. Marquette? You can't be serious. Michigan St? Not a chance. Neither of these teams will make the Elite Eight and at best ONE makes the Sweet 16.

You're sleepers are borderline retarded. Kansas? Must be a massive homer, because they are sweet 16 AT BEST and are probably a first round exit this year. They simply don't have much to work with this year. Florida? Same goes as Kansas. If either one of those two played in the Big East they'd finish 7th or 8th at best. Only reason either is going to make the tourney is because of their name and because of their shitty conferences. Kentucky is no threat in the tourney. The SEC is terrible so they might win their conference, but they won't do anything when they get there. North Carolina handled them easily when they met.

St Marys is the "sleeper" team people need to watch out for. They are better than Gonzaga and have a stud running the point in Mills. St Marys is for real and will do well in the tourney. I see them in a big game for the final four spot vs probably UCLA and I am looking forward to that matchup if it happens.

I still can't even believe you listed Kansas, Marquette, Kentucky and Florida. Michigan St is another team you are grossly overrating probably for the simple fact they bitch slapped your jayhawks and that impresses you, even though that is no quality win. Beating Gonzaga would be 10x more impressive.

Try posting with less aggression, more maturity, and with less "retarded, can't believe you" mentality.

It will get you more positive responses on this board LOL.

 

[Cappin'Guru]

i agree with him that st marys is a good team i think gonzaga is pretty tough as well but marquette is at least as good as them was the point i was making so if you are going to say marquettes a joke pick then you have to say st marys is as well.

None of that was directed towards you.

I like Marquette and saw what they did to Pearl and his afaletes. LOL

 

[papicker]

i wasnt talkin to you cappin i was responding to chase and his st marys hard on. i think they have a chance to make the sweet 16 no doubt final 4 i would be absolutely floored. gonzaga still got a better team then st marys

 

[jayhawkkyle]

coming from a guy that is picking st. marys! ha

hard to take u seriously after that! nevertheless agree that you even have a clue about what u are talking about!

if you read my post you would see i said if they make it past the sweet 16 it would be a great! they have the talent to beat any team in the country w/ the best point gurad and the only true ctr. in the country!

after losing 6 players to the nba i would say we are in pretty good shape to make a run by the end of the year! and we are still the champs until proven different!

any team i posted have as good as a chance as st. marys! they play in a shitty conf.

i would worry about your own dumb picks instead of you talking shit to everyone else on here!

North Carolina
Pittsburgh
UConn
St Marys

the original list is ridiculous. Marquette? You can't be serious. Michigan St? Not a chance. Neither of these teams will make the Elite Eight and at best ONE makes the Sweet 16.

You're sleepers are borderline retarded. Kansas? Must be a massive homer, because they are sweet 16 AT BEST and are probably a first round exit this year. They simply don't have much to work with this year. Florida? Same goes as Kansas. If either one of those two played in the Big East they'd finish 7th or 8th at best. Only reason either is going to make the tourney is because of their name and because of their shitty conferences. Kentucky is no threat in the tourney. The SEC is terrible so they might win their conference, but they won't do anything when they get there. North Carolina handled them easily when they met.

St Marys is the "sleeper" team people need to watch out for. They are better than Gonzaga and have a stud running the point in Mills. St Marys is for real and will do well in the tourney. I see them in a big game for the final four spot vs probably UCLA and I am looking forward to that matchup if it happens.

I still can't even believe you listed Kansas, Marquette, Kentucky and Florida. Michigan St is another team you are grossly overrating probably for the simple fact they bitch slapped your jayhawks and that impresses you, even though that is no quality win. Beating Gonzaga would be 10x more impressive.

 

[NickelsAndDimes]

Final 4:
UNC and Oklahoma are already in

as far as the other 2 teams..pick 2 of the following:
Pitt
Wake
Duke
UCONN

Possible teams to sneak in:
Georgetown
Texas

Possible Cinderellas:
i really like the St. Mary's pick...other possibilities...
Kentucky
Davidson (if curry goes off for 45-50 in any games)

 

[CRBlades2]

saying a team is "already in" is just plain idiotic and shows lack of knowledge, especially at this point of the season

 

[jayhawkkyle]

ou is not deep enough! teams will get blake into foul trouble!

i hope they do well! but i dont see them past the elite 8

Final 4:
UNC and Oklahoma are already in

as far as the other 2 teams..pick 2 of the following:
Pitt
Wake
Duke
UCONN

Possible teams to sneak in:
Georgetown
Texas

Possible Cinderellas:
i really like the St. Mary's pick...other possibilities...
Kentucky
Davidson (if curry goes off for 45-50 in any games)

 

[CRBlades2]

i dont think UConn has any mental toughness (esp Thabeet) if they are put to the test. I would expect them to be Sweet 16 exit. As far as other teams there is clearly a separation between Tier I, II and III, but you all know anything can happen in March, depending on matchups, etc.

TIER I
-Wake
-PITT
-Duke
-UNC
-Oklahoma
-UConn (barely)

TIER II
-Mich St (UNC matchup proved this)
-Louisville
-Syrause
-Xavier
-ASU
-UCLA
-Clemson
-Marquette
-Texas

TIER III
-Notre Dame
-G'Town
-Purdue
-St. Marys
-Gonzaga
-Memphis
-Baylor
-Illinois

 

[seriousaddiction]

North Carolina
Pittsburgh
UConn
St Marys

the original list is ridiculous. Marquette? You can't be serious. Michigan St? Not a chance. Neither of these teams will make the Elite Eight and at best ONE makes the Sweet 16.

You're sleepers are borderline retarded. Kansas? Must be a massive homer, because they are sweet 16 AT BEST and are probably a first round exit this year. They simply don't have much to work with this year. Florida? Same goes as Kansas. If either one of those two played in the Big East they'd finish 7th or 8th at best. Only reason either is going to make the tourney is because of their name and because of their shitty conferences. Kentucky is no threat in the tourney. The SEC is terrible so they might win their conference, but they won't do anything when they get there. North Carolina handled them easily when they met.

St Marys is the "sleeper" team people need to watch out for. They are better than Gonzaga and have a stud running the point in Mills. St Marys is for real and will do well in the tourney. I see them in a big game for the final four spot vs probably UCLA and I am looking forward to that matchup if it happens.

I still can't even believe you listed Kansas, Marquette, Kentucky and Florida. Michigan St is another team you are grossly overrating probably for the simple fact they bitch slapped your jayhawks and that impresses you, even though that is no quality win. Beating Gonzaga would be 10x more impressive.

Did you really just come at someone for having Marquette and Kansas hanging around then you proceed to throw St Marys in there??? Cmonnnnnn....Wont win their conference there for they will maybe squeak in an at large making them a very dangerous 10-13 seed...do you know what a team would likely have to go through to get to the final four with a seed like that??


UNC
OKL
UCONN
PITT


sleepers
anyone in the big east
DUKE (not really a sleeper)

thats about it

 

[NickelsAndDimes]

saying a team is "already in" is just plain idiotic and shows lack of knowledge, especially at this point of the season

relax guy...its just a college basketball tournament...itll be okay....take a deep breath realize theres more in life

then come back in March and tell me if UNC and Oklahoma are already in like i said they are...:toast:

 

[seriousaddiction]

i dont think UConn has any mental toughness (esp Thabeet) if they are put to the test. I would expect them to be Sweet 16 exit. As far as other teams there is clearly a separation between Tier I, II and III, but you all know anything can happen in March, depending on matchups, etc.

TIER I
-Wake
-PITT
-Duke
-UNC
-Oklahoma
-UConn (barely)

TIER II
-Mich St (UNC matchup proved this)
-Louisville
-Syrause
-Xavier
-ASU
-UCLA
-Clemson
-Marquette
-Texas

TIER III
-Notre Dame
-G'Town
-Purdue
-St. Marys
-Gonzaga
-Memphis
-Baylor
-Illinois

most accurate post in this thread---only one I don't like is Baylor. Few teams ahead of them IMO.

 

[seriousaddiction]

For what its worth Actually...here is what the gauntlet would be like For St Marys pending their inevitable 10 seed (or worse) unless they run the table and steal a higher seed in the 5-7 range which I don't see happening.

Just a ball park of who they would have to play to make it to the final four as a 10 seed.

Round 1- Purdue
Round 2- L'ville
Round 3- Clemson/ND Winner
Round 4- Texas/ASU winner ..

not gonna happen my friend. This obviously is just a "hypothetical" look at whom they would have to run through en route to the final four. This is according to todays bracketology which we all know won't hold up at end of season, but this would be something they would have to do to make Final 4. Love Patty Mills and love the team, but it aint happenin

 

[Willie99]

Not sure why a team that is 9-1 in their last 10 games vs ranked teams is not mentally tough, but that's just me.

That same team happens to be 5-1 vs teams that are locks at this point in time, with four of those games being neutral court or road games.

17-1 overall and winners of 5 straight in the Big East.

Coached by a HOF coach known for having mentally tough teams that peak in March. A team that is among the nation's leaders in rebounding margin and defensive FG% each and every year, including this year. Those are mentally tough attributes.

Not mentally tough? is that a fucking joke or what? UConn might not get to the FF, but it won't be because they are not mentally tough.

 

[-Chase-]

For what its worth Actually...here is what the gauntlet would be like For St Marys pending their inevitable 10 seed (or worse) unless they run the table and steal a higher seed in the 5-7 range which I don't see happening.

Just a ball park of who they would have to play to make it to the final four as a 10 seed.

Round 1- Purdue
Round 2- L'ville
Round 3- Clemson/ND Winner
Round 4- Texas/ASU winner ..

not gonna happen my friend. This obviously is just a "hypothetical" look at whom they would have to run through en route to the final four. This is according to todays bracketology which we all know won't hold up at end of season, but this would be something they would have to do to make Final 4. Love Patty Mills and love the team, but it aint happenin

10 seed? No way they get a seed outside of the top 6, and they have a good shot of ending up top 4 after they win their conference tourney and beat zaga.

Also, I'd take them at pk on a neutral court every time vs Purdue, Clemson/ND, and Texas. Az St would be a good game, but I'd probably go with St Marys too. I would only take them vs Ville as about a 6 pt dog.

No way the bracket is that bad to them. More likely situation is:

1st round. 11) Siena, 3) Az St, 2) UCLA 1) Oklahoma

UCLA is the toughest game there to me because OK is an absolute fraud. I would favor Az St and UCLA over OK to be honest. I think they could easily go through a bracket like this, and it is likely going to be easier than this example. People just don't get how good Patrick Mills is. Best PG in the nation without doubt.

 

[Cappin'Guru]

10 seed? No way they get a seed outside of the top 6, and they have a good shot of ending up top 4 after they win their conference tourney and beat zaga.

Also, I'd take them at pk on a neutral court every time vs Purdue, Clemson/ND, and Texas. Az St would be a good game, but I'd probably go with St Marys too. I would only take them vs Ville as about a 6 pt dog.

No way the bracket is that bad to them. More likely situation is:

1st round. 11) Siena, 3) Az St, 2) UCLA 1) Oklahoma

UCLA is the toughest game there to me because OK is an absolute fraud. I would favor Az St and UCLA over OK to be honest. I think they could easily go through a bracket like this, and it is likely going to be easier than this example. People just don't get how good Patrick Mills is. Best PG in the nation without doubt.

Would you like to put a side wager on them not winning the conference? I would also like to throw another bet your way consisting of them having a six seed or better. That statement is not very well thought out and they will be put into a better bracket then the one you posted if they have an at large.

Also, if any of the teams listed that you said you would take St. Mary's on a neutral court. I will take any side wager of that too. You do realize that St. Mary's must continue on the pace that they are at for the entire season and beat Gonzaga once or twice to get an at large? This team could miss the tournament with a poor finish.

I just do not see how you have them automatic winner over everyone, when they have played no one. Not only an auto win against the Tier II teams, but a Final Four appearance.

 

[Cappin'Guru]

For what its worth Actually...here is what the gauntlet would be like For St Marys pending their inevitable 10 seed (or worse) unless they run the table and steal a higher seed in the 5-7 range which I don't see happening.

Just a ball park of who they would have to play to make it to the final four as a 10 seed.

Round 1- Purdue
Round 2- L'ville
Round 3- Clemson/ND Winner
Round 4- Texas/ASU winner ..

not gonna happen my friend. This obviously is just a "hypothetical" look at whom they would have to run through en route to the final four. This is according to todays bracketology which we all know won't hold up at end of season, but this would be something they would have to do to make Final 4. Love Patty Mills and love the team, but it aint happenin

I agree. He is definitely missing a big portion of the picture with this St. Mary's team.

 

[Cappin'Guru]

Not sure why a team that is 9-1 in their last 10 games vs ranked teams is not mentally tough, but that's just me.

That same team happens to be 5-1 vs teams that are locks at this point in time, with four of those games being neutral court or road games.

17-1 overall and winners of 5 straight in the Big East.

Coached by a HOF coach known for having mentally tough teams that peak in March. A team that is among the nation's leaders in rebounding margin and defensive FG% each and every year, including this year. Those are mentally tough attributes.

Not mentally tough? is that a fucking joke or what? UConn might not get to the FF, but it won't be because they are not mentally tough.

When I read the UConn statement I was stunned also LOL. Good luck in the Big East pal.

God knows Tennessee is going to need it in the SEC.

 

[papicker]

10 seed? No way they get a seed outside of the top 6, and they have a good shot of ending up top 4 after they win their conference tourney and beat zaga.

Also, I'd take them at pk on a neutral court every time vs Purdue, Clemson/ND, and Texas. Az St would be a good game, but I'd probably go with St Marys too. I would only take them vs Ville as about a 6 pt dog.

No way the bracket is that bad to them. More likely situation is:

1st round. 11) Siena, 3) Az St, 2) UCLA 1) Oklahoma

UCLA is the toughest game there to me because OK is an absolute fraud. I would favor Az St and UCLA over OK to be honest. I think they could easily go through a bracket like this, and it is likely going to be easier than this example. People just don't get how good Patrick Mills is. Best PG in the nation without doubt.

surely someone as smart as you would know that arizona st and ucla cant be a 2 and 3 seed in the same region. teams from the same conference cant be in the same group of 8 unless they have more then 8 teams in the tournament (which will happen with the big east this year for the first time ever) st marys as a 6 seed is a joke too they will probably be a 8-10 seed providence and san diego st are there best wins (and neither of those teams will be in the tournament most likely) and they would have to win out (this would include 3 wins over gonzaga) and that might give them a 6.