Dont bet on John Smoltz!

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He is right,John Smoltz is done!Hey Spiderman whats with you and liking these washed up pitchers Smoltz,Ponson they suck!!!
 

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Smoltz is showing it's easy to pitch in NL .......and red sox have lots of pitching LOL I knew this was a bad pick nl pitchers almost always suck in AL
 

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He is right,John Smoltz is done!Hey Spiderman whats with you and liking these washed up pitchers Smoltz,Ponson they suck!!!


I don't know where you are getting this data. let me make this clear, IN NO WAY AM I SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT JOHN SMOLTZ. All I'm saying is that this guy is an idiot for thinking that 1-0 makes him some kinda professional handicapper.

In regards to Ponson, he looked great today. Regardless, it's not about liking washed up pitchers, it's about finding value in games. I thought that people at a sports betting forum would realize this, but I guess I gave y'all more credit than you deserved.
 

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ok...1 game means everything in this business it can make or break you so come again before speaking about ignorance.

Are you serious? You shouldn't be betting enough that one games makes it or breaks it for you. If you are practicing proper money management, then all that matters is long term profit. A loss of one game is going to make the difference between 350 units of profit for the year and 348. Not all that dramatic.
 

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Are you serious? You shouldn't be betting enough that one games makes it or breaks it for you. If you are practicing proper money management, then all that matters is long term profit. A loss of one game is going to make the difference between 350 units of profit for the year and 348. Not all that dramatic.

Huh debating like children so who you got tonight man?
 

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Have the Sox. If I win I'll be the greatest handicapper ever cuz i'll have won one in a row!
 

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Have the Sox. If I win I'll be the greatest handicapper ever cuz i'll have won one in a row!

You're just an ass man. No offense but at least I NEED MONEY supported his reason for debate. You just dont shit else to do so go away.

Im sure you do got white sox after you post 41 mins after the game start. Nice late call.
 

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Haha, it's posted on my website if you really need proof. I'm not gonna tell you my website though cuz I don't wanna get kicked outta the forums. If you are any good with Google you could probably find it.

And I am absolutely supporting my argument. My argument has nothing to do with John Smoltz by the way. My argument is simply in defense of how you were responding to I Need Money. You were treating him like dirt all because you got one game right and I just didn't think that was appropriate so I thought I would defend him by letting you know that, in my opinion, one game cannot make or break a handicapper. If you ask anybody that gambles for a living they will tell you that there is no way they would ever let one loss devastate them. They bet small enough that losing any single bet is okay, as long as they win the majority of their bets in the long run.

I don't mean to come off as an ass, but you were being an ass to him and I'm backing him because he seemed to know what he was talking about. Again, NOT ABOUT JOHN SMOLTZ.
 

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You must have skipped the parts where i said i was messing with him and having fun with him too huh? All in fun who cares its a week old man my ass attics got my ass the worst betting lost i ever had thanks to them damn twins.:>(
 
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Spider Web, it's fairly useless trying to explain things to this little kid. He knows little about gambling and even less about actual baseball.
I've tried explaining to him several times that Smoltz is still a pitcher who's trying to build up arm strength. (ie: timewise....he's still similar to a pitcher throwing in spring training.) The Red Sox know it....John Smoltz knows it....anyone who has a general understanding of baseball knows it.

Is Smoltz a good guy to bet on right now? ....Hell no. And for that, Captain Dipshit here is right.
He's definitely not a guy to wager money on right now, and seeing as he plays for the Red Sox he will almost always be a huge favorite, so you can definitely pick your spots to bet against him.

However to proclaim a guy is "done" based on what you see from him during his first month back from surgery....is showing that you don't really understand how things work.
It's also fairly easy to tell you don't understand what you're talking about when you say things like:
Cant even get it done vs the orioles
It shows you DO NOT understand basic concepts such as the Orioles have a very productive lineup, and that the reason their record is so bad is that their starting pitching and bullpen is so bad. You see bad record, and automatically presume they can't hit. When in reality they are one of the more potent lineups in the American League, they just have serious pitching problems.
Basically the more you talk, the more you give away that you truly don't understand what's going on.

So again....try to process some of this stuff, it will help you in the long run.
As far as betting against Smoltz, it's is a fine idea for now. Just make sure you re-evaluate every so often once he's had time to build up arm strength.
I ain't gonna reply to whatever doo doo you respond with, because really what's the point? You've shown lack of basic baseball knowledge, so really most of what's said is lost on you.
GL
 
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So after a little time to get his arm strength back and some bullpen sessions with Dave Duncan, Smoltz looks to be a fairly decent option again.
Granted his starts were against the Nationals and Padres, but if we look back to the beginning of his return this year, he was knocked around by that same National's lineup.

His last 2 starts:

5 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K (including 7 in a row at one point)
6 IP, 4 hits, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

Of course the move to the National League helps some, but even a look at his K/9 and K:BB ratios even when he was in the AL were very telling.
The guy was still striking people out at a fairly elite rate for a starting pitcher, and his K:BB ratio was solid just like it's always been with Smoltz.
The difference now is that he's built up his arm strength a little bit, and he's able to carry that good stuff for more than just 3 innings at a time.

Coming back from surgery like that takes different people different amounts of time. Some guys aren't any good for a full season afterward. Looks like it just took Smoltz a couple months to iron out his problems, which is what I was "attempting" to explain to that guy in the first place.
 

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Whats funny is the fucker ended up on my team and i only live like 100 miles from Busch Stadium.:laugh:
 
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Whats funny is the fucker ended up on my team and i only live like 100 miles from Busch Stadium.:laugh:
Now that is ironic (<)<


I do think it was a great pickup for them, and I think the Phillies were insane not to try and sign him as their closer. Lidge is the only weak spot on that whole team, and they let a guy who could dominate out of the pen pass them by.
 

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Now that is ironic (<)<


I do think it was a great pickup for them, and I think the Phillies were insane not to try and sign him as their closer. Lidge is the only weak spot on that whole team, and they let a guy who could dominate out of the pen pass them by.

Yup ever since the trade i just havent taking any action with smoltz due to new team and not sure what i was gonna get and the lines were also a bit high for me to risk.
 
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Yeah it's tough to find value on Smoltz with the teams he's been on. Sox and Cards are almost always overpriced.
I'm just happy the guy has looked decent lately.
 

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