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'cowering in fear'?

geesus, surely you jest. :)......

they will let his ego destroy him......He put his foot in his mouth in his opening speech a number of times. I don't think he can help himself, i really don't. When things get heated in a live debate?..oh boy....going to be fun theatre...:).


btw cowering in fear is not a characteristic of American politicians...or is it?

I guarantee if you asked the top 8 other candidates or so, they would all prefer he wasn't running. Not because he has a chance to win, his unfavorables are likely too high but just dealing with someone like him in a debate would be brutal. Every single perceived weakness they have he just hammers them on and they can't really say much back because all he has done is build high rises and golf courses for the past 30 years.

He talks about these guys like they are jokes in a way we've never seen before.

Like I said, he might be polling at 12% but his swagger rating is 100%
 

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shall I also show you the video of Obama saying he visited all 57 states? Or do you know what he meant?

anyways, here ya go




Trump's comments were designated towards illegal immigrants, and are in no way racist or bigoted.

Trump said "Mexico is sending". Obama said we should be making sure we are deporting the people who are dangerous, the gangbangers, etc. NOT EVEN CLOSE to the same thing.
Do you think Obama doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down when he mispoke about 57 states, and continued to insist there are 57 states?? C'mon dude, you have to be better than this.
 

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Trump said "Mexico is sending". Obama said we should be making sure we are deporting the people who are dangerous, the gangbangers, etc. NOT EVEN CLOSE to the same thing.
Do you think Obama doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down when he mispoke about 57 states, and continued to insist there are 57 states?? C'mon dude, you have to be better than this.

If I say .... Canada sends Maple Syrup to the United States, does that mean the Canadian government is behind it? Or do we all know what I mean?

What's the country that borders the US to the south? Mexico right? When he said "Mexico is sending", we all know what he meant also don't we?

Mexico is sending tequila to the US. Does that mean the government is in on it?
 

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If I say .... Canada sends Maple Syrup to the United States, does that mean the Canadian government is behind it? Or do we all know what I mean?

What's the country that borders the US to the south? Mexico right? When he said "Mexico is sending", we all know what he meant also don't we?

Mexico is sending tequila to the US. Does that mean the government is in on it?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/opinions/kohn-donald-trump-announcement/

Trump's outrageous Mexico remarks

By Sally Kohn, CNN Political Commentator
Updated 2:44 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2015

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Story highlights


  • Donald Trump announces he is running for president
  • Sally Kohn: Trump isn't in the election to win but to spout off his own fringe views



<q class="el-editorial-note">Sally Kohn is an activist, columnist and television commentator. Follow her on Twitter: @sallykohn. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.</q>

<cite class="el-editorial-source"> (CNN)</cite>There were about three seconds on Tuesday when I was excited about the idea of Donald Trump running for president, if only for the entertainment value. Then he opened his mouth.

Perhaps the lowest point, in a speech filled with low points, was when Trump started bashing Mexico and Mexicans -- and, in so doing, also bashed the fundamental values on which our own nation is founded.


"When Mexico sends its people," Trump said during his presidential announcement, "they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."
Let's spend a moment on that, shall we?
Trump is explicitly playing into an us-versus-them narrative that is not only factually dumb but divisive and dangerous. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised, given Trump has continually questioned the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, but it's shocking nonetheless.
In Trump's formulation, it's not just Mexicans who are evil -- they're all rapists and drug lords, Trump asserts without any facts to base this upon -- but Mexico the country is also evil, deliberately sending "those people" with "those problems."

Trump is not only preying on, but feeding the xenophobic fears of mostly conservative white Americans who see immigration not as about economic realities but as a national threat -- people who use rhetoric about "hordes" "swarming" the border, which is also the kind of talk that undermines any notion of humane immigration policy.




I also hope it goes without saying how deeply offensive such comments are not only to Mexican-Americans, but Latino Americans in general. And frankly, it should offend every American whose own ancestors once came to this country as immigrants, immigrants who were almost all at one point denigrated and demeaned by the majority. Immigration and integration are among the best parts of America's story. Xenophobia and racial bias run through our ugliest chapters.
"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border," Trump continued in his speech, "and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words." Never mind that we already have a significant fencing system along key parts of the border, and that Border Patrol agents laying more fencing will not stop desperate migrants and crafty smugglers.
Facts are nothing to Trump. Nor, apparently, is common sense. How, for example, would he get Mexico to pay for such a wall, especially if the country is as wicked as Trump suggests? One also wonders why he's not concerned there's no fence at all along the northern border. Canada must not be an evil nation.
"The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everyone else's problems," Trump thundered. But actually, the world has become a dumping ground for U.S. economic policy. And few countries feel this more than Mexico, where our free trade agreements opened the border to cheap American-grown corn -- cheap because it's subsidized by our tax dollars -- which flooded the Mexican market and killed local agriculture.
By 2001, just seven years after the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect, one out of every three tortillas in Mexico was made with imported corn, one report suggests. And a similar dynamic affected other crops and industries. We've literally been dumping our cheap subsidized crops and low-wage factories in Mexico -- not the other way around.
Immigrants don't generally leave their families, home countries and everything they've ever known just because they want to -- it's usually because they feel they have no choice. You would think a successful businessman would know the realities of these economic and policy forces. But certainly, we should expect such basic knowledge in our president.
Of course, there's no way Trump will become president. Polling suggests Trump is, in fact, the most disliked political candidate since 1980. And that's saying a lot. But Trump isn't in this election to win; he's in this election to spout off his own fringe views -- cheered on by a tiny but equally loud right wing of the Republican base. Somehow, like Trump, the more absurd and self-destructive and marginal those views become, the louder they are yelled.
We are an increasingly pluralistic and global nation, and hopefully increasingly inclusive nation as well. If Trump doesn't like it, there's no one he can fire to change things. He should just quit.
 

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That obviously IS what he was saying. And why he's deservedly getting such blow-back on it.

But it isn't what he meant, no teleprompter no notes even a clear thinker like Don Trump misuses words now & again, I'm
sure you realize that. Most do!
 

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"Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric is just taking it to the next level," Blair said. "He is a really shrewd guy, and I would guess his calculus expected the current blowback.""
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/opinions/kohn-donald-trump-announcement/

Trump's outrageous Mexico remarks

By Sally Kohn, CNN Political Commentator
Updated 2:44 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2015

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Story highlights


  • Donald Trump announces he is running for president
  • Sally Kohn: Trump isn't in the election to win but to spout off his own fringe views



<q class="el-editorial-note">Sally Kohn is an activist, columnist and television commentator. Follow her on Twitter: @sallykohn. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.</q>

<cite class="el-editorial-source"> (CNN)</cite>There were about three seconds on Tuesday when I was excited about the idea of Donald Trump running for president, if only for the entertainment value. Then he opened his mouth.

Perhaps the lowest point, in a speech filled with low points, was when Trump started bashing Mexico and Mexicans -- and, in so doing, also bashed the fundamental values on which our own nation is founded.


"When Mexico sends its people," Trump said during his presidential announcement, "they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."
Let's spend a moment on that, shall we?
Trump is explicitly playing into an us-versus-them narrative that is not only factually dumb but divisive and dangerous. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised, given Trump has continually questioned the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, but it's shocking nonetheless.
In Trump's formulation, it's not just Mexicans who are evil -- they're all rapists and drug lords, Trump asserts without any facts to base this upon -- but Mexico the country is also evil, deliberately sending "those people" with "those problems."

Trump is not only preying on, but feeding the xenophobic fears of mostly conservative white Americans who see immigration not as about economic realities but as a national threat -- people who use rhetoric about "hordes" "swarming" the border, which is also the kind of talk that undermines any notion of humane immigration policy.




I also hope it goes without saying how deeply offensive such comments are not only to Mexican-Americans, but Latino Americans in general. And frankly, it should offend every American whose own ancestors once came to this country as immigrants, immigrants who were almost all at one point denigrated and demeaned by the majority. Immigration and integration are among the best parts of America's story. Xenophobia and racial bias run through our ugliest chapters.
"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border," Trump continued in his speech, "and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words." Never mind that we already have a significant fencing system along key parts of the border, and that Border Patrol agents laying more fencing will not stop desperate migrants and crafty smugglers.
Facts are nothing to Trump. Nor, apparently, is common sense. How, for example, would he get Mexico to pay for such a wall, especially if the country is as wicked as Trump suggests? One also wonders why he's not concerned there's no fence at all along the northern border. Canada must not be an evil nation.
"The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everyone else's problems," Trump thundered. But actually, the world has become a dumping ground for U.S. economic policy. And few countries feel this more than Mexico, where our free trade agreements opened the border to cheap American-grown corn -- cheap because it's subsidized by our tax dollars -- which flooded the Mexican market and killed local agriculture.
By 2001, just seven years after the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect, one out of every three tortillas in Mexico was made with imported corn, one report suggests. And a similar dynamic affected other crops and industries. We've literally been dumping our cheap subsidized crops and low-wage factories in Mexico -- not the other way around.
Immigrants don't generally leave their families, home countries and everything they've ever known just because they want to -- it's usually because they feel they have no choice. You would think a successful businessman would know the realities of these economic and policy forces. But certainly, we should expect such basic knowledge in our president.
Of course, there's no way Trump will become president. Polling suggests Trump is, in fact, the most disliked political candidate since 1980. And that's saying a lot. But Trump isn't in this election to win; he's in this election to spout off his own fringe views -- cheered on by a tiny but equally loud right wing of the Republican base. Somehow, like Trump, the more absurd and self-destructive and marginal those views become, the louder they are yelled.
We are an increasingly pluralistic and global nation, and hopefully increasingly inclusive nation as well. If Trump doesn't like it, there's no one he can fire to change things. He should just quit.
Most hispanic don't have a problem with what Trump said because they know what he meant. And because most hispanics are great people. That goes for most people. Not just latinos.

The person who wrote that piece is obviously a liberal with an agenda. Its all about politics, agendas and money. I can see it. Not sure why you can't.

Someone who speaks his mind is so refreshing to hear. I bet that if Hillary said the same thing, liberals would defend her the same as those who are defending Trump.
 

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Most hispanic don't have a problem with what Trump said because they know what he meant. And because most hispanics are great people. That goes for most people. Not just latinos.

The person who wrote that piece is obviously a liberal with an agenda. Its all about politics, agendas and money. I can see it. Not sure why you can't.

Someone who speaks his mind is so refreshing to hear. I bet that if Hillary said the same thing, liberals would defend her the same as those who are defending Trump.

Actually they do. That's why the Gov't of Mexico, many Latinos, and Latino businesses, have properly skewered Trump and cut ties with him.
When Sharpton "speaks his mind" it's not so refreshing is it? It depends on who you agree with and who you don't, like I said. Most people recognize they are both loudmouth buffoons that aren't taken seriously by most for anything but entertainment value. Two peas in a pod. Now both have run for POTUS too.
Yeah, Kohn is a liberal, with a POV. Those that are supporting Trump in the media also are about Politics and agendas, and are Conservatives with an agenda.
 
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Actually they do. That's why the Gov't of Mexico, many Latinos, and Latino businesses, have properly skewered Trump and cut ties with him.
When Sharpton "speaks his mind" it's not so refreshing is it? It depends on who you agree with and who you don't, like I said. Most people recognize they are both loudmouth buffoons that aren't taken seriously by most for anything but entertainment value. Two peas in a pod. Now both have run for POTUS too.
Yeah, Kohn is a liberal, with a POV. Those that are supporting Trump in the media also are about Politics and agendas, and are Conservatives with an agenda.

I have a beef with Trump's words, and I also think Sharpton is a POS.

I am caucasian, born of an American woman (blonde )and a Italian man (dark skin), but I was born and raised in CR... so I'm not a racist at all... too much mixture in my veins to be a 1 race bannermen but Trump is and always be, a racist simple minded POS.
 

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I like when people are real and say what they feel. These days though if you do that, you're labeled a racist which is unfortunate.

Do you feel the same way when Sharpton is real and says what he feels? Or do you label him a racist(which he is) when he does.
 

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trump said nothing racist

anyone says anything almost at all nowadays they are labeled as racist. It ridiculous.

 

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I have a beef with Trump's words, and I also think Sharpton is a POS.

I am caucasian, born of an American woman (blonde )and a Italian man (dark skin), but I was born and raised in CR... so I'm not a racist at all... too much mixture in my veins to be a 1 race bannermen but Trump is and always be, a racist simple minded POS.
Agree about Sharpton. I agree Trump is simple minded, and he plays to the simple minded, sound bite crowd. I'm not sure he's actually a racist, but he said something that was very racist, and if he had some common sense, some self awareness, and some humility, he would apologize for the inappropriate way he said it, and move on to discuss the actual problems with border security, which is indeed a problem. Instead of doubling and tripling down on his racist comments. But since he's Trump, he'll always do the latter, and it's what makes him so entertaining. But ultimately unelectable, if he was even in it for real.
 
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Agree about Sharpton. I agree Trump is simple minded, and he plays to the simple minded, sound bite crowd. I'm not sure he's actually a racist, but he said something that was very racist, and if he had some common sense, some self awareness, and some humility, he would apologize for the inappropriate way he said it, and move on to discuss the actual problems with border security, which is indeed a problem. Instead of doubling and tripling down on his racist comments. But since he's Trump, he'll always do the latter, and it's what makes him so entertaining. But ultimately unelectable, if he was even in it for real.

Too much ego, too much self importance. This guy will never look for America's best interests the way he behaves. A ruler, a good leader, must be selfless, not selfish.
 

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But it isn't what he meant, no teleprompter no notes even a clear thinker like Don Trump misuses words now & again, I'm
sure you realize that. Most do!

Sure I do. And all Trump had to do is admit that he did so, scale it back, eat some humble pie, and move on. But he is incapable of it. And that's why he is the gift that keeps on giving for entertainment value.
 

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He's already said some version of "Jeb sucks" like 50 times, he'll just say it 50 more times. He attacks him on Iraq and immigration all day, says his brother was terrible, etc

I'm telling you man they're cowering in fear. Would you want this egomaniac in a debate with you? If his poll #s can stay above water, he is gonna be a huge thorn in the side of the GOP. He's never held public office before so there really isn't much they can hit him back on whereas he can pretty much go to town on all of these guys about 1 thing or another.

If he stays in the race for the duration he is definitely going to damage the other candidates, perhaps even the eventual nominee. Jeb's campaign is already calling him and saying take it easy on him, they're on the same side, etc.
I think the debates are going to be fascinating, because someone Floundering along, like Rick Perry will absolutely hammer Trump to try and advance himself, while someone with no shot, but trying to get Trump's support and supporters when he implodes/drops out, like Ted Cruz, will be kissing Trumps ass. Like Bart Scott said,
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There actually is alot to attack Trump about Politically as Republicans. His $100,000 in donations to the Clinton Foundation, His support for Hillary in prior elections, his Prior stance on Guns and Taxes, His prior desire for Universal Health care, his crazy Obama Birther theories which sane Republicans never got involved with, His constant attacks(which I agree with, but I'm not a Republican)on Bush getting us into Iraq.
 

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America will only heal when there is a leader who says the brutal truth and damns political correctness and ratings.

You mean like Bernie Sanders? :toast:

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"Nearly 6 out of 10 believe that money and wealth should be more evenly distributed among a larger percentage of the people in the U.S."
Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, June 4th, 2013 in a tweet



[h=1]Bernie Sanders says six of 10 Americans say wealth should be distributed more equally[/h] By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
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<figcaption class="art-block__caption">Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has been a longtime critic of income inequality. Is his recent tweet about public attitudes correct?</figcaption> </figure> </header> In a recent tweet, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., reiterated one of his most frequent themes -- income inequality in the United States.
"Nearly 6 out of 10 believe that money and wealth should be more evenly distributed among a larger percentage of the people in the U.S.," Sanders tweeted.
We wondered: Is the percentage holding that view really that high?
Actually, it is -- and it hasn’t changed much for almost three decades.
The Gallup polling organization has been asking the following question periodically since 1985: "Do you feel that the distribution of money and wealth in this country today is fair, or do you feel that the money and wealth in this country should be more evenly distributed among a larger percentage of the people?"
The most recent data comes from a Gallup survey taken April 4-7, 2013. The result: 59 percent agreed that "the money and wealth in this country should be more evenly distributed among a larger percentage of the people," while 33 percent said the distribution was fair. The poll had a margin of sampling error of 4 percentage points.
Gallup has asked the question 12 times since 1985, with the percentage saying that wealth should be more evenly distributed keeping within a fairly narrow band, ranging between 56 percent and 68 percent.
Gallup also reported a partisan divide: More than eight in 10 Democrats said money and wealth need to be more evenly distributed, compared with 28 percent of Republicans.
It’s worth noting that there is less agreement on how this situation should be remedied. Gallup has periodically paired the question above with one additional question: "Do you think our government should or should not redistribute wealth by heavy taxes on the rich?" During the 2012 presidential election, the candidates divided sharply on this question, with President Barack Obama favoring higher taxes on the rich and Republican Mitt Romney opposing any tax hikes.
Support for higher taxes on the wealthy has zig-zagged between mild approval and mild disapproval since the 1980s, while backing for higher taxes on the rich has ranged from 45 percent to 52 percent.
Most recently, in April 2013, Gallup found that 52 percent supported higher taxes on the wealthy while 45 percent opposed such a policy -- the second-largest gap in favor of higher taxes since the question was first asked. (In 2008, 51 percent supported higher taxes on the wealthy, while 43 percent were opposed.)
Our ruling
Sanders tweeted that "nearly 6 out of 10 believe that money and wealth should be more evenly distributed among a larger percentage of the people in the U.S." The senator has accurately reported the results of a longstanding Gallup question, so we rate his claim True.
 

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Is The Donald even "telling it like it is" like his supporters like to say?

[h=1]Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter[/h] By Lauren Carroll, Angie Drobnic Holan, Louis Jacobson, Katie Sanders on Sunday, July 5th, 2015 at 6:00 a.m.
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</figure> PolitiFact has been fact-checking Donald Trump since 2011, when he debuted on our Truth-O-Meter with this statement about President Barack Obama: "The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don't know who he is."
That statement earned a Pants on Fire rating. Media accounts and biographies are filled with on-the-record, named classmates who remember Obama. We even tracked down one of his classmates and talked to her ourselves.















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Since that first fact-check, Trump has made several more provocative statements that have caught our attention, including a slew from his speech in June announcing that he was running for the Republican nomination for president.
As of this writing, we’ve rated 20 of Trump’s statements on our Truth-O-Meter; the current breakdown of ratings are as follows:
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(See his file on the Truth-O-Meter, which updates dynamically as we post new fact-checks.)
Here’s a selection of some of our recent fact-checks of Donald Trump.
On the Islamic State as hotel magnates
"Islamic terrorism is eating up large portions of the Middle East. They've become rich. I'm in competition with them," Trump said. "They just built a hotel in Syria. Can you believe this? They built a hotel. When I have to build a hotel, I pay interest. They don't have to pay interest, because they took the oil that, when we left Iraq, I said we should've taken."
Trump has facts muddled here, too. The Islamic State didn’t build a hotel in Syria, they took over an existing hotel in Iraq. And they’re not using it to lure luxury travelers; it houses Islamic State commanders. We rated his statement False.
On the size of the U.S. economy
"Last quarter, it was just announced our gross domestic product -- a sign of strength, right? But not for us -- it was below zero. Whoever heard of this? It's never below zero," Trump said.
Trump messed up his economic terms; the gross domestic product was not "zero." The size of the U.S. economy -- which is what gross domestic product is -- is in the trillions of dollars and not anywhere close to zero. The growth in the gross domestic product has been zero, but it’s been below zero 42 times over 68 years. That’s a lot more than "never." We rated his claim Pants on Fire!
On abortion
In 1999, Trump said he "was strongly pro-choice," Now he says he’s against abortions, along with the American public. "In terms of polling, the pro-choice (support) is going down a little bit," Trump said.
Actually, the latest polling suggests that in May of 2015, 50 percent of Americans identified as pro-choice compared with 44 percent of Americans identifying as pro-life. That gap hasn't varied a lot over the years, though the results reflect a slight increase in Americans identifying as pro-choice. We rated his statement False.
On nuclear weapons
"Our enemies are getting stronger and stronger, by the way, and we as a country are getting weaker. Even our nuclear arsenal doesn’t work," Trump said. "It came out recently they have equipment that is 30 years old. They don’t know if it worked."
There have problems with the U.S. nuclear program, but they have tended to problems of people—either mismanaging the moving of weapons or personal behavior. The weapons themselves appear to be functioning fine. The Defense Department and the Energy Department are required by law to certify the safety, security, and effectiveness of the arsenal on an annual basis. While some of the weapons are aging, the United States has been engaged in a modernization effort that will cost roughly $35 billion a year during the next decade, which comes to 5 percent to 6 percent of planned national-defense spending. The bill could reach $1 trillion over the next 30 years. We rated Trump’s statement False.
On Chevy in Japan
"When did we beat Japan at anything?" Trump asked. "They send their cars over by the millions, and what do we do? When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo? It doesn't exist, folks. They beat us all the time." There aren't many Chevys in Japan, but they do exist. In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure. Granted that's not a lot, and Trump has a point that Japan does better in the United States on car sales. But he should have used more accurate words to make his point. We rated his statement Mostly False.
On the real unemployment rate
"Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it," Trump said. Setting aside his paranoia about the government cooking the books, Trump is off base even if you give him the maximum benefit of the doubt. Our research showed the highest formal statistic for underemployment is 10.8 percent, and if you use alternative measures, there’s still no realistic way to get it past 16 percent. And even that is a considerable stretch. We rated his statement False.
 

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