haha... i realize this now. actually i have no intent on ever doing this again i was just confident so i made an offer he told me how much he wanted and i said sure.
if i call a book and say i want chiefs +7 for $50 and they say "why the hell not" it is a bet.
people not named journeyman, 5starbomb or gyno would have paid the debt already... but i knew who i was dealing with before doing any of this and for that reason i would never agree to any decent amount of coin.
if i call a book and say i want chiefs +7 for $50 and they say "why the hell not" it is a bet.
people not named journeyman, 5starbomb or gyno would have paid the debt already... but i knew who i was dealing with before doing any of this and for that reason i would never agree to any decent amount of coin.
i like illini.
the fact of the matter is that if my side had lost he would have been paid because once i said "why the hell not" the bet was booked.
anyone who thinks that this is not just some excuse to get out of a really bad bet he made and lost simply is not familiar with who i am dealing with here.
i do realize now that knowing who this guy is i should have baby sat it the entire way but he asked for and an amount and i gave it to him. bet is booked.
the method of transferring money has nothing to do with it being booked or not.
as far as me SUCKING AT BOOKING i have already conceded that... i would never have exchanged words with this guy had i not sucked at booking.
i am however willing to accept what guys like illini and EGD have to say as long term guys who i have no reason not to respect.
in my opinion i had made a bet and was willing to settle it had i lost... i didn't and i expected to be paid.
but i am not going to get paid and i left what some view as an acceptable out for him so that is that.
i am not trying to get over at all i felt like i had a bet which is why i did not go back into the thread till the game went final.
like PA has pointed out i suck at booking... but even with the bet i was never looking to get over. i offered a number better than any books posted (that i know of) with 76% of the public on the falcons at even vig. if that does not show that i suck at booking nothing will... it should also show tho that i don't care to be good at booking. i saw a chance to make a game more interesting and i took it.
i am however willing to accept what guys like illini and EGD have to say as long term guys who i have no reason not to respect.
in my opinion i had made a bet and was willing to settle it had i lost... i didn't and i expected to be paid.
but i am not going to get paid and i left what some view as an acceptable out for him so that is that.
i am not trying to get over at all i felt like i had a bet which is why i did not go back into the thread till the game went final.
like PA has pointed out i suck at booking... but even with the bet i was never looking to get over. i offered a number better than any books posted (that i know of) with 76% of the public on the falcons at even vig. if that does not show that i suck at booking nothing will... it should also show tho that i don't care to be good at booking. i saw a chance to make a game more interesting and i took it.
i have never placed a wager where the means of settling up was agreed to in advance.
i am not sure i have seen one made on the forums where a condition was how the wager was settled. he knew what he was doing and when he got blown out today he danced his way out of settling.
with that said i am willing to drop it. it is just $50 and it is obviously more important to him than to me.
The guy said "there would have to be another way." I take that as, "if this bet was gonna happen, we would have to figure out an alternate plan beforehand."
Also, books take bets. Of course when you say you want a side and they accept it, it's a bet. Posters are not bookmakers, especially when half the bets on here are "I'll bet you fuck your sister, or I'll bet you don't have a dime to your name."
My two cents.
If I was gonna bet a poster, it would have to be someone I trust, and it would also have to have confirmation that a bet is definitely on. As in, yes, we have action.
i can live with that. totally disagree with it but i admit i made some mistakes... first and foremost even exchanging words with that guy. i think you are reading too much into the statement you made in your first paragraph. there would have to be another way is something that IMO happened after the wager was made... simply stating that we would have to find another way to settle not that the wager was not on till this was agreed on.
like your brother said he would have wanted payment if his side had won but he picked the worst side on the board and he had to dance.
as far as posters are not bookmakers... obv you are right about that and this not being something i ever do i treated it like any other wager.
i made several mistakes in this whole thing, i am willing to accept that and move on. i am just glad it was not for some decent amount of money.
well fellas this is why i asked. i considered it a wager once i said why the hell not but clearly that was my misunderstanding.
to hines i am pretty sure gyno has earned every bit of the uncertainty that hovers over him. if this was someone without a past of being an immature idiot i would not have hesitated to say "misunderstanding"...
regardless you have all spoken and i admit fault in all of this.
to hines i am pretty sure gyno has earned every bit of the uncertainty that hovers over him. if this was someone without a past of being an immature idiot i would not have hesitated to say "misunderstanding"...
regardless you have all spoken and i admit fault in all of this.
