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At what point during this procedure to you bring in NeverFresh to make him his dog's bitch?

I would have them tied up in separate rooms, while I'm torturing one the other will shit himself hearing the whole ordeal... for the big finale I would put 2 shotguns one of each wall, secure a hook on their backs and chain them together, 3ft chain secured to a hook in the ground to make sure they cannot cooperate and they need to tussle to get the shotgun... basically they will need to rip each other apart in a flesh-o-war... whoever takes the shotgun and shoots the other first survives... to run the field outside my house, while I let Lola, my pitbull, roam free... hey, if he escapes, he escapes, but the line is -1000
 

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holy fuck. i posted when this thread was somewhat sane. came back to it and see so much ignorance. once again, on my death bed at 23 with booze and drugs. started at 13. got some treatment and AA because that is the company line. left AA and been sober nearly 25 yrs. i do not think it is a disease, although i can see why some people do. for me, it's not. if someone else thinks they have one, i don't care or insult them. more people quit severe problems on their own compared to those who sought treatment. once again, think what you want. it doesn't matter to me.


alcohol and drug abusers use these things to escape reality. we had no coping skills. it starts out fun then gradually turns into a living hell. and then comes death. there are so many inaccurate generalities from both sides of this issue in this thread, it is scary. i don't wear it as a badge of honor nor am i a professional victim. it is a fucked up topic with no one size fits all answers.
 

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holy fuck. i posted when this thread was somewhat sane. came back to it and see so much ignorance. once again, on my death bed at 23 with booze and drugs. started at 13. got some treatment and AA because that is the company line. left AA and been sober nearly 25 yrs. i do not think it is a disease, although i can see why some people do. for me, it's not. if someone else thinks they have one, i don't care or insult them. more people quit severe problems on their own compared to those who sought treatment. once again, think what you want. it doesn't matter to me.


alcohol and drug abusers use these things to escape reality. we had no coping skills. it starts out fun then gradually turns into a living hell. and then comes death. there are so many inaccurate generalities from both sides of this issue in this thread, it is scary. i don't wear it as a badge of honor nor am i a professional victim. it is a fucked up topic with no one size fits all answers.


Honest question. Do you think your background contributes to you being a miserable fucking prick? Or has that just always been your general nature?

Every post I have ever seen you make at this forum is condescending and hateful (minus a couple in this thread). I'm curious if you still carry around a lot of resentment about your situation.
 

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This thread still going full force, haha!


Some people find a substance that covers/hides their mental anguish deep down inside their brains.

Most of us suffer or have suffered stressful situations in our lives.......remember one thing, there is always someone out in the world more worse off than you......(sound like a counselor)

No matter how many times someone will hear this, they still have to live with what's bothering them, & the only way the know how to deal with it, is not dealing with it.......so they drink or do drugs.

Is the disease their initial problem that started them on to the road to alcoholism &/or drug addiction, or is it both?

Addiction is considered a disease, but I like to know the personal anguish that got that person started to the road of self destruction.
 

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This thread still going full force, haha!


Some people find a substance that covers/hides their mental anguish deep down inside their brains.

Most of us suffer or have suffered stressful situations in our lives.......remember one thing, there is always someone out in the world more worse off than you......(sound like a counselor)

No matter how many times someone will hear this, they still have to live with what's bothering them, & the only way the know how to deal with it, is not dealing with it.......so they drink or do drugs.

Is the disease their initial problem that started them on to the road to alcoholism &/or drug addiction, or is it both?

Addiction is considered a disease, but I like to know the personal anguish that got that person started to the road of self destruction.

i see where you may think this. I get it. There are definatley people out there like that. A lot of them. But also consider those who just like doing fat rails. I said somewhere in here some of the biggest times I wanted to "party" was when things were going great! Just something to consider.
 

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I don't think there is a blanket reason why people do drugs or alcohol in excess. You are definitely right about a lot who do it because something may have gone wrong or whatever. But not all.
 

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We called it shale. Cooked up nice and tasted like bubble gum

thats what I'm talking about...the bubble gum, the cat piss, real coke. put a matchhead of it it a glass of bleach and watch nothing sink fast. the shiny soft , turn on the A/C, stuff. doing a freeze. A couple of gaggers and then the drip....that beautiful drip. If anybody ever had it , they'd be a billionaire in a year...the word would be out, Real Cocaine is back.
for you jokers talking about pure, the only thing pure is that it's pure bullshit. It doesn't exist. when was the last time someone got busted for coke ? used to be all the time, because it existed then. It is not available to anyone.
 

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thats what I'm talking about...the bubble gum, the cat piss, real coke. put a matchhead of it it a glass of bleach and watch nothing sink fast. the shiny soft , turn on the A/C, stuff. doing a freeze. A couple of gaggers and then the drip....that beautiful drip. If anybody ever had it , they'd be a billionaire in a year...the word would be out, Real Cocaine is back.
for you jokers talking about pure, the only thing pure is that it's pure bullshit. It doesn't exist. when was the last time someone got busted for coke ? used to be all the time, because it existed then. It is not available to anyone.

That was 30 years ago for me.
 

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I don't think there is a blanket reason why people do drugs or alcohol in excess. You are definitely right about a lot who do it because something may have gone wrong or whatever. But not all.

Thank you. I hate this kind of thinking. It victimizes me and I am not a victim, I had a great childhood and early adulthood. I have had a great fucking life.
 

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thats what I'm talking about...the bubble gum, the cat piss, real coke. put a matchhead of it it a glass of bleach and watch nothing sink fast. the shiny soft , turn on the A/C, stuff. doing a freeze. A couple of gaggers and then the drip....that beautiful drip. If anybody ever had it , they'd be a billionaire in a year...the word would be out, Real Cocaine is back.
for you jokers talking about pure, the only thing pure is that it's pure bullshit. It doesn't exist. when was the last time someone got busted for coke ? used to be all the time, because it existed then. It is not available to anyone.

it exists, but I agree it's getting harder to get quality stuff on a consistant basis.

Btw what is your avatar?
 

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Honest question. Do you think your background contributes to you being a miserable fucking prick? Or has that just always been your general nature?

Every post I have ever seen you make at this forum is condescending and hateful (minus a couple in this thread). I'm curious if you still carry around a lot of resentment about your situation.

i'm sorry, did i rain on your professional victim 15 minutes of fame thread????? we are celebrating your greatest accomplishment in life, not killing yourself drinking. wow, i'm very impressed. of course i go at it with people on this forum. most of them are idiots. if they insult me, i insult them. kinda like you attacking me when i didn't attack you. now it's my turn. that makes me the attacker??? nope, it makes the disease ridden dry drunk, You, the attacker. are you sure you aren't still drinking?????

so now that you have exposed yourself as a phony, it only makes sense you wear the badge of honor for having a phony disease that people cure everyday by themselves. you are my hero.
 

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Thank you. I hate this kind of thinking. It victimizes me and I am not a victim, I had a great childhood and early adulthood. I have had a great fucking life.

you are not a victim but you say you have a disease????? you are either drunk or mentally retarded. so because you didn't have a bad childhood, you don't think that people that suffer more than normal trauma in childhood could be more vulnerable than those that didn't??? it is not 100%, but for you to suggest that doesn't play a role in the majority of cases, you are beyond stupid.
 

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I don't think there is a blanket reason why people do drugs or alcohol in excess. You are definitely right about a lot who do it because something may have gone wrong or whatever. But not all.



Oh, I agree, I didn't mean for my statementto be a blanket statement, iI was just giving an angle on.why some people fall into alcohol/drugs.

I had a friend that was 2 years older than me I'm highschool.......he came from.a rich family & had a great upbringing, the american dream.I suppose you would call it.

He was I to drugs cause he liked to party & could get any girl he wanted .......he had a set of friends he was close with & partied hard........loved his coca.

One weekend, took his BMW with 4 other friends in it & was driving really fast & out of control, high on coca, took a turn doing 55mph in a residential street & flipped the car........my friend was the only one that died.

Everyone else survived......I remember overhearing his mom one day saying to another mom that its good for kids to try everything, indulge persay........ she had stated that about a year before her son died.

My point is, we don't have to have issues to drink or do drugs, we just like to have fun & we gradually get further into it.

But in his situation, if his parents were more strict, would he still be alive today? Maybe I shouldn't look at it that way because some kids no matter what their parents say, they will do drugs.

There are do may things that can trigger us to gravitate towards alcohol/drugs but we don't recognize it.

Of course there are people that think everything is perfect in their lives & they just wanna party, but IMO, they're chasing something, if its not like the opposite where they're just trying block something of the past.
 

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^ Thats a good story Computer. Man, almost like karma with him being the only one who died, huh? You bring up an interesting point with, "Would he still be alive today if his parents were more strict?" Like you said, who knows.

A story that has really stuck with me I saw on the news about 10 years ago. There was a 1 minute story on a guy who died on a motorcycle on a nearby hwy. The thing that was interesting about the report was that the guy wasn't riding his motorcycle. He had stopped under a bridge because it was raining and got hit by a car. The car had veered, not paying attention, and killed him. This got me to thinking what if the motorcycle guy had stopped at the store to get a water. Or what if right before he was about to leave he decided to take a shit? Had he wasted 5 minutes doing something else maybe then that car would have already passed where he stopped and he would be alive. Crazy huh

i tend to believe that when its your time, it's your time. And you should do whatever makes you happy while you are here on earth. You never know when your time is up.
 

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i'm sorry, did i rain on your professional victim 15 minutes of fame thread????? we are celebrating your greatest accomplishment in life, not killing yourself drinking. wow, i'm very impressed. of course i go at it with people on this forum. most of them are idiots. if they insult me, i insult them. kinda like you attacking me when i didn't attack you. now it's my turn. that makes me the attacker??? nope, it makes the disease ridden dry drunk, You, the attacker. are you sure you aren't still drinking?????

so now that you have exposed yourself as a phony, it only makes sense you wear the badge of honor for having a phony disease that people cure everyday by themselves. you are my hero.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Pretty sure I continually state I am not a victim. Don't consider myself a "disease ridden dry drunk". Surely don't think I'm a phony.

One thing I am sure of is you are an asshole. Your character shines through in this and pretty much every post you make here. You are a bitter bitter man and I truly feel sorry for you. Maybe someday you can see the brighter side of life.

Be well
 

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you are not a victim but you say you have a disease????? you are either drunk or mentally retarded. so because you didn't have a bad childhood, you don't think that people that suffer more than normal trauma in childhood could be more vulnerable than those that didn't??? it is not 100%, but for you to suggest that doesn't play a role in the majority of cases, you are beyond stupid.

The reality is I am one of the smarter people with which you will ever interact. But keep calling people idiots from behind your keyboard. Pretty fulfilling life you got yourself there, I'm sure you mom would be proud.
 

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That was 30 years ago for me.

it was for everyone. that's how long ago it was. the coke dealers didn't pump enough of the profits back into the economy, and it was such a great drug, everyone did it. how that turned into no more good real coke is a mystery.
 
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thats what I'm talking about...the bubble gum, the cat piss, real coke. put a matchhead of it it a glass of bleach and watch nothing sink fast. the shiny soft , turn on the A/C, stuff. doing a freeze. A couple of gaggers and then the drip....that beautiful drip. If anybody ever had it , they'd be a billionaire in a year...the word would be out, Real Cocaine is back.
for you jokers talking about pure, the only thing pure is that it's pure bullshit. It doesn't exist. when was the last time someone got busted for coke ? used to be all the time, because it existed then. It is not available to anyone.

bro it is south of the border... you don't get pure in the US, try Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica...
 

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^ Thats a good story Computer. Man, almost like karma with him being the only one who died, huh? You bring up an interesting point with, "Would he still be alive today if his parents were more strict?" Like you said, who knows.

A story that has really stuck with me I saw on the news about 10 years ago. There was a 1 minute story on a guy who died on a motorcycle on a nearby hwy. The thing that was interesting about the report was that the guy wasn't riding his motorcycle. He had stopped under a bridge because it was raining and got hit by a car. The car had veered, not paying attention, and killed him. This got me to thinking what if the motorcycle guy had stopped at the store to get a water. Or what if right before he was about to leave he decided to take a shit? Had he wasted 5 minutes doing something else maybe then that car would have already passed where he stopped and he would be alive. Crazy huh

i tend to believe that when its your time, it's your time. And you should do whatever makes you happy while you are here on earth. You never know when your time is up.



Yes, life is strange like that.......when your time is up, its up......kind of predetermined......like that crazy movie Final Destination where they try to cheat death.

I remember reading a story in the NY Daily News about a woman that was supposed yo be on one of the planes on 911 that crashed into the towers but for some reason which she said but I can't remember, she didn't go on her trip, then several weeks later, she gets killed......crazy world! Makes u wanna snort a line, aye? Lmao.......
 

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