I think some are, if not you have to ignore the Donahay thing and all the pointshaving scandals in college basketball, and the early 1908 baseball Sox scandal where it was learned the series was fixed.
I know some people who are rabid about the fix thought and just claim that everything is fixed, but their claims don't hold up when a pointspread moves 4/5/6 points and then the line move wins and the books get absolutely buried. Apparently those same fix people don't have an answer for when the "supposed fix" didn't take.
Those same people don't have an answer for the college football title game between Florida and Oklahoma, where Flo opened around 2.5, got bet up to 6, and then everybody in the nation watched Florida end up a 10 point winner. But I still know people who claim there was a fix on that game. Doesn't make sense to me, unless there were Ok players betting on Florida to cover and played to let them.
Personally I do think there are fixes, in my mind boxing comes up first....I don't bet many pro games as the parity between teams is really too close to judge as compared to college events.....I mainly stick to totals if I do bet. That and I don't follow pro sports as much so it really means little to me knowing that in some NBA game some team is getting 10-15 points. I guess I tend to think of pro sports as more of a crapshoot in terms of determining an outcome that I'd be comfortable wagering on.
I know some people who are rabid about the fix thought and just claim that everything is fixed, but their claims don't hold up when a pointspread moves 4/5/6 points and then the line move wins and the books get absolutely buried. Apparently those same fix people don't have an answer for when the "supposed fix" didn't take.
Those same people don't have an answer for the college football title game between Florida and Oklahoma, where Flo opened around 2.5, got bet up to 6, and then everybody in the nation watched Florida end up a 10 point winner. But I still know people who claim there was a fix on that game. Doesn't make sense to me, unless there were Ok players betting on Florida to cover and played to let them.
Personally I do think there are fixes, in my mind boxing comes up first....I don't bet many pro games as the parity between teams is really too close to judge as compared to college events.....I mainly stick to totals if I do bet. That and I don't follow pro sports as much so it really means little to me knowing that in some NBA game some team is getting 10-15 points. I guess I tend to think of pro sports as more of a crapshoot in terms of determining an outcome that I'd be comfortable wagering on.
Your response reminds me of that basketball game between Russia and USA that had multiple calls at the very end, with the game called finished when Russia was finally ahead.
Can't remember the year and the exact chain of events, but it reeked of a fix.
Roy Jones Jr olympic title fight also comes to mind. I never saw it but I always heard stories about him pummeling his opponent but the decision went the other way.
1972 For the basketball.
The Roy Jones fight was the worst in the history of sports. I am suprised the Korean didn't get killed. It is only 3 rounds in the Olympics, but Jones throughly dominated him. Everyone and I mean everyone thought Roy was winning the Gold, even the Korean was suprised.
There are definitely fixes in some sporting matches, people who say all games are fixed are crazy. Especially when you can look at most games and find logical reasons why one team won or look ahead and find logical reasons why another team will win and find that you are right more than 55% of the time. I personally believe fixing is much more prominent in 1 on 1 sports as you only need to pay off 1 person to get your results. They have canceled bets on many tennis matches involving Russian players because the books see a huge amount of money getting poured all into one side they know something is up. I don't ever think the people involved with fixing are books though, they don't care who wins they just want balanced action and they do that with line movement (it is a lot easier than fixing). I have read a lot about point shaving in college basketball, if anything that just tells you to bet on the dog in large spread games, the players usually aren't throwing the game, just the spread at the end of the game.
For the most part I believe pro sports are immune to fixing as the vast majority of the players would not want to risk multimillion dollar contracts to get some little cash bonus. Tennis is either being fixed by death threats to players families or direct cash compensation as the majority of the players not making a killing and their pay is basically performance based.
The same goes for fights, but again just because someone is better doesn't mean they threw the fight. In UFC or boxing all it takes is one lucky head shot and the favorite could be going down from a slew of followup hits.
For the most part I believe pro sports are immune to fixing as the vast majority of the players would not want to risk multimillion dollar contracts to get some little cash bonus. Tennis is either being fixed by death threats to players families or direct cash compensation as the majority of the players not making a killing and their pay is basically performance based.
The same goes for fights, but again just because someone is better doesn't mean they threw the fight. In UFC or boxing all it takes is one lucky head shot and the favorite could be going down from a slew of followup hits.
I'm sure the outcome of some games through they years have had impact from someone having something to do with a fix, but I don't believe it's something that is going on, on a regular basis.
BUT.........When you think about it, it would be VERY EASY for Vegas & all professional sports to run a "Business" by fixing games.
With all of the sophistication today, it could happen something like this.
Lines are set & put out
People wager on games
It takes some time to find out a percentage of what side the majority of bettors have wagered on each games' side and/or total, etc.
But with all of the computer technology, by HALFTIME all of this info could be sent to one specific place, in Vegas more than likely, that gives all of those details mentioned above, what % of bettors from across the nation/etc. has bet on each game, then Vegas, or whoever is in charge, goes from there, halftime.
It would then be easy for them to all make communication with officials at each game, or once again, whoever is in charge and needs the information passed to, to help do whatever is necessary to help determine the outcome of the game, with that outcome obviously being whatever side that benefits Vegas and/or casinos in general everywhere possibly.
Maybe this is why we see such ridiculous changes, comebacks, or endings in games from time to time that seem impossible to happen........:think2:
All of this is not likely, but not far-fetched at all.........!~~~!
BUT.........When you think about it, it would be VERY EASY for Vegas & all professional sports to run a "Business" by fixing games.
With all of the sophistication today, it could happen something like this.
Lines are set & put out
People wager on games
It takes some time to find out a percentage of what side the majority of bettors have wagered on each games' side and/or total, etc.
But with all of the computer technology, by HALFTIME all of this info could be sent to one specific place, in Vegas more than likely, that gives all of those details mentioned above, what % of bettors from across the nation/etc. has bet on each game, then Vegas, or whoever is in charge, goes from there, halftime.
It would then be easy for them to all make communication with officials at each game, or once again, whoever is in charge and needs the information passed to, to help do whatever is necessary to help determine the outcome of the game, with that outcome obviously being whatever side that benefits Vegas and/or casinos in general everywhere possibly.
Maybe this is why we see such ridiculous changes, comebacks, or endings in games from time to time that seem impossible to happen........:think2:
All of this is not likely, but not far-fetched at all.........!~~~!
