Shrink,
It is a privledge for you to have us here not the other way around and it is our right to be able to walk into any public place.
JUst like a store or any other operation that relys on customers when one party infringes on another's rights you protect your interest and get rid of the problem.
DOn't get me wrong I'm happy there is this community but it is a community that would be worthless without eachother. These forums are popping up fast these days and the ones that will do well are the ones with the posters.
It is a privledge for you to have us here not the other way around and it is our right to be able to walk into any public place.
JUst like a store or any other operation that relys on customers when one party infringes on another's rights you protect your interest and get rid of the problem.
DOn't get me wrong I'm happy there is this community but it is a community that would be worthless without eachother. These forums are popping up fast these days and the ones that will do well are the ones with the posters.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by altice:
Lander's just another wannabe insider who at least posts in complete sentences to gain brownie points with Shrink and thinks he's some kind of rocket scientist cause he plays off lines at shit books. He should get paid more cause he does a better job stirring up shit than most posters here.
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Books I'm currently playing at :
Pinnacle
BlueGrass
Panam
Sirbet
Hollywood
IIS
CRIS
ok, which one's are the "shit books"?
Shouldn't you clowns go back and play with Butchy? I'm sure him and the other 4 posters miss you.
Lander's just another wannabe insider who at least posts in complete sentences to gain brownie points with Shrink and thinks he's some kind of rocket scientist cause he plays off lines at shit books. He should get paid more cause he does a better job stirring up shit than most posters here.
Books I'm currently playing at :
Pinnacle
BlueGrass
Panam
Sirbet
Hollywood
IIS
CRIS
ok, which one's are the "shit books"?
Shouldn't you clowns go back and play with Butchy? I'm sure him and the other 4 posters miss you.
Well, any 'right' is granted by contract or law, just as under the U.S. constitution you are afforded certain rights. A 'privilege' is something which is offered but without the force of a law or contract behind it, for example being able to receive a driver's license is actually a privilege and not a right.
Shrink, this is your forum - if you are having to ask the question, it means to me that you never 'officially' declared the rules of the forum to include this as a 'right' to post here, so to me it's a privilege. Especially considering that every forum I've ever been in reserves the right (lol) to revoke a poster's privilege to post under certain conditions.
Even more interesting to me is that so many people cry out for their 'rights' when so many have no inkling of what their 'responsibilities' are.
Shrink, this is your forum - if you are having to ask the question, it means to me that you never 'officially' declared the rules of the forum to include this as a 'right' to post here, so to me it's a privilege. Especially considering that every forum I've ever been in reserves the right (lol) to revoke a poster's privilege to post under certain conditions.
Even more interesting to me is that so many people cry out for their 'rights' when so many have no inkling of what their 'responsibilities' are.
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i think being at the rx is a right. however, just like in real life, certain actions can cause certain rights to be revoked.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
RPM, just interested...why do you think it is a right?
It would seem to me that a "right" is something that an individual owns or can lay claim to sort of like the "right" to remain silent, the "right" to use public facilities like parks and such.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
the right to use public facilities like parks and such...
that is about the way the rx is. but if you go to the park and shit it up, they might not let you come back...
you basically explained how i feel.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RPM:
i think being at the rx is a right. however, just like in real life, certain actions can cause certain rights to be revoked.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
RPM, just interested...why do you think it is a right?
It would seem to me that a "right" is something that an individual owns or can lay claim to sort of like the "right" to remain silent, the "right" to use public facilities like parks and such.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
the right to use public facilities like parks and such...
that is about the way the rx is. but if you go to the park and shit it up, they might not let you come back...
you basically explained how i feel.
Dante: yeah, I know, I'm just saying by default it has to be a privilege. Let me put it this way: if I'M footing the bill for a forum, I would be incredibly dull if I did not grasp the concept that without posters, there would be no forum. Or if I owned a movie theatre, I'd go out of business faster than a salt salesman in Death Valley if I turned all customers away. Point is, it's not a question of a 'right' - no one can insist they can post here without restrictions of any kind UNLESS the forum owner agrees to it, which I personally think would be moronic, because one would then be saying no poster would have ANY responsibility whatsoever.
You cannot please everyone all of the time - them there's the facts.
If this is a movement towards standardizing the rules and procedures for getting banned (if they aren't already), I have no problem with it. As I said in another post, I too could be banned tomorrow over something but if it happened, I'm not going to cry and whine all over town about it because I have a life outside the white box I'm typing these words into.
You cannot please everyone all of the time - them there's the facts.
If this is a movement towards standardizing the rules and procedures for getting banned (if they aren't already), I have no problem with it. As I said in another post, I too could be banned tomorrow over something but if it happened, I'm not going to cry and whine all over town about it because I have a life outside the white box I'm typing these words into.
Jazz... great post...thank you for the clarification you have some VERY valid points <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You cannot please everyone all of the time - them there's the facts.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>no one can insist they can post here without restrictions of any kind UNLESS the forum owner agrees to it, which I personally think would be moronic, because one would then be saying no poster would have ANY responsibility whatsoever.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>no one can insist they can post here without restrictions of any kind UNLESS the forum owner agrees to it, which I personally think would be moronic, because one would then be saying no poster would have ANY responsibility whatsoever.
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This is a very simple topic.
Everyone here is invited to participate, as in everything in life, there have to be rules, why? Without them, we are nothing. We are here to learn from each other, share, have fun and interact. Just as in life, there are many who are here for other purposes. People who have nothing to lose (they have nothing in life) so resort to bashing others. That must not be tolerated.
IF you can play by the rules, you have a right to be here.
Once you have violated those rules YOU must be kicked out.
We are in a way part of a little select club, think of all the gamblers that have no one else but themselves to share info with. Its not like we have to thank God for this place but we are priviledged to participate here.
Everyone here is invited to participate, as in everything in life, there have to be rules, why? Without them, we are nothing. We are here to learn from each other, share, have fun and interact. Just as in life, there are many who are here for other purposes. People who have nothing to lose (they have nothing in life) so resort to bashing others. That must not be tolerated.
IF you can play by the rules, you have a right to be here.
Once you have violated those rules YOU must be kicked out.
We are in a way part of a little select club, think of all the gamblers that have no one else but themselves to share info with. Its not like we have to thank God for this place but we are priviledged to participate here.
I own a small restaurant. Just as it's not a right for someone to be able to eat at my restaurant it's not a right for someone to be able to post at the RX. If a guy walks in my restaurant with no shirt I'll throw him out. My restaurant stays open until 4AM and once in a while there are guys that come in drunk and have needed to be banned. The same thing applies here at the RX. Shrink owns the site and can ban anyone he sees fit temporarily or for good. If Shrink makes bad decisions on who bans or isn't consistent with his rules he will ultimately suffer the consequences of his decisions the same way that I will suffer if I make bad decisions at my restaurant. On the other hand good decisions mean more profits.
There are always going to be conflicting views when a Poster is banned from this site. I think the thing many posters here have difficulty with is what guidelines precipitate a poster being banned? It seems at times that some posters who have gone over the edge remain while others are banned for similar offences.
Who exactly makes the decision? and what is the process?
Just floating an idea out here, but maybe having 5 posters who are not on the payroll and without personal agendas making the decision privately is better. The Shrink would of course have to abide by their decision and at least the poster is judged by his peers without having the accusation that paid employees ousted him/her.
Just my opinion.
HTRC
Who exactly makes the decision? and what is the process?
Just floating an idea out here, but maybe having 5 posters who are not on the payroll and without personal agendas making the decision privately is better. The Shrink would of course have to abide by their decision and at least the poster is judged by his peers without having the accusation that paid employees ousted him/her.
Just my opinion.
HTRC
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Just floating an idea out here, but maybe having 5 posters who are not on the payroll and without personal agendas making the decision privately is better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Interesting idea but I don't think that Shrink should have to abide by the decision. It would be great input but not the ultimate decision.
