In response to my poost which stated
Originally Posted by Scott L
Maybe not. But it is intolerant. A person can't help his or her sexual proclivity. They're born that way. And they shouldn't have to hide or be ridiculed!
Daheavy1 wrote:
I have witnessed many many ridiculous, thoughtless, off-topic, and overall idiotic writings emanate from people's keyboards. And this one ranks high up therehno:
And why is it idiotic, because you don't have a viable answer?
If a person can't help there sexual proclivity as you say, won't age ever come into play, much like gender, race, etc?
I can only speak from my perspective in which I believe the vast majority of opposition to same-gender marriages within the USA is founded on nothing more than fear.
The opposers may indeed be bigoted, hating or ignorant of Constitutional issues, but I'm sure it varies from person to person.
The age of consent varies between 14-16 in most states. If it's 16 in your state and on your way to driving home your 14 year old baby sitter she says, "pull over and let's fuck," and you're over 18 and give in you're going to jail.
If I am at a club and I go home with a woman it's perfectly legal.
Likewise, if you go to The Happy Homo and get lucky with a man that is also perfectly legal.
So the answer to your question of whether it's OK to play ball just because there's grass on the field [or not] is NO!
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So, since it's illegal in most states for same sex marriage you're OK with that.....right? If not why not?
The arguments are always, it's their choice and nobody is getting harmed.
I'll I'm saying is whether is marriage or sex the rules should apply the same. Either we let everybody in the club or let the public or government dictate.
I think I'm done with the games of semantics. All I'm arguing is most people are born to grow up to become attracted to the opposite sex. Others are attracted to the same sex, while others are asexual.
I don't believe sexual attraction is a choice or a disease and I believe it is a wrong to discriminate or hate another person because their sexual desires cause you discomfort.
It is also anyone's right to disagree with me. Now THAT is a CHOICE.
I don't believe sexual attraction is a choice or a disease and I believe it is a wrong to discriminate or hate another person because their sexual desires cause you discomfort.
It is also anyone's right to disagree with me. Now THAT is a CHOICE.
For the most part, our country has made huge strides in accepting different races mixing, and is becoming more tolerant towards same gender relations. If you're accepting of these, I'm asking why are you not accepting of age differences?
Righties can pick an chose relationships based on religion, morals, etc, but I'm trying to get an understanding why it seems you're OK with some relationships but not all.
I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand.
I'm asking....What if you're born attracted to little children? Based on your comments in the previous post, you don't believe that it's wrong to discriminate on these sexual predators. So you must be against the tracking and monitoring of pedophiles.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Goals of the Gay Movement[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The gay movement is forthright about seeking to legitimize child-adult homosexual sex. In 1987, The Journal of Homosexuality – the scholarly organ of the gay rights movement – published "Pedophilia and the Gay Movement."<SUP> (29)</SUP> Author Theo Sandfort detailed homosexual efforts to end "oppression towards pedophilia." In 1980 the largest Dutch gay organization (the COC) "adopted the position that the liberation of pedophilia must be viewed as a gay issue... [and that] ages of consent should therefore be abolished... by acknowledging the affinity between homosexuality and pedophilia, the COC has quite possibly made it easier for homosexual adults to become more sensitive to erotic desires of younger members of their sex, thereby broadening gay identity." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In 1990 COC achieved a significant victory: lowering of the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland to 12 (unless the parents object, in which case it goes up to 15).<SUP> (30)</SUP> In the U.S. and Canada, the North American Man-Boy Love Association marches proudly in many gay pride parades with the stated goal of removing the barriers to man-boy sex. Note the phrases "oppression towards pedophilia" and "liberation of pedophilia." It is clear that those who advocate the legalization of sex between adults and children intend to argue that such conduct is a "civil right," deserving of the same legal protections afforded to other minorities. A large proportion of Americans regard that argument as a mere pretext to giving "sexual predators" free reign to take advantage of vulnerable children.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Conclusion[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not only is the gay rights movement upfront in its desire to legitimize sex with children, but whether indexed by population reports of molestation, pedophile convictions, or teacher-pupil assaults, there is a strong, disproportionate association between child molestation and homosexuality. Ann Landers’ claim that homosexuals molest children at no higher a rate than heterosexuals do is untrue. The assertion by gay leaders and the American Psychological Association that a homosexual is less likely than a heterosexual to molest children is patently false. http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html Thru a link @ www.fightpc.net[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Goals of the Gay Movement[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The gay movement is forthright about seeking to legitimize child-adult homosexual sex. In 1987, The Journal of Homosexuality – the scholarly organ of the gay rights movement – published "Pedophilia and the Gay Movement."<SUP> (29)</SUP> Author Theo Sandfort detailed homosexual efforts to end "oppression towards pedophilia." In 1980 the largest Dutch gay organization (the COC) "adopted the position that the liberation of pedophilia must be viewed as a gay issue... [and that] ages of consent should therefore be abolished... by acknowledging the affinity between homosexuality and pedophilia, the COC has quite possibly made it easier for homosexual adults to become more sensitive to erotic desires of younger members of their sex, thereby broadening gay identity." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In 1990 COC achieved a significant victory: lowering of the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland to 12 (unless the parents object, in which case it goes up to 15).<SUP> (30)</SUP> In the U.S. and Canada, the North American Man-Boy Love Association marches proudly in many gay pride parades with the stated goal of removing the barriers to man-boy sex. Note the phrases "oppression towards pedophilia" and "liberation of pedophilia." It is clear that those who advocate the legalization of sex between adults and children intend to argue that such conduct is a "civil right," deserving of the same legal protections afforded to other minorities. A large proportion of Americans regard that argument as a mere pretext to giving "sexual predators" free reign to take advantage of vulnerable children.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Conclusion[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not only is the gay rights movement upfront in its desire to legitimize sex with children, but whether indexed by population reports of molestation, pedophile convictions, or teacher-pupil assaults, there is a strong, disproportionate association between child molestation and homosexuality. Ann Landers’ claim that homosexuals molest children at no higher a rate than heterosexuals do is untrue. The assertion by gay leaders and the American Psychological Association that a homosexual is less likely than a heterosexual to molest children is patently false. http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html Thru a link @ www.fightpc.net[/FONT]
This whole thread has some great info:
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=626161&highlight=homosexual
This is from post #65:
Same-Sex Couples are Fundamentally Different
Still, some would argue, since gays will continue adopting, shouldn’t we encourage same-sex marriage? Wouldn’t this help give children the stability they need? No, because studies by even homosexual researchers reveal that same-sex couples are fundamentally different from their straight counterparts. They are more promiscuous, have greater physical and mental health problems and shorter life expectancies, and the average duration of relationships is woefully short.7
And these differences don’t produce a healthy environment in which to raise children.8 Any number of indicators prove this; indeed, they prove that it would be detrimental and possibly even dangerous.9 For instance, the journal Adolescence reported that researchers found a “disproportionate percentage—29 percent—of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent.... Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.”10
So, while same-sex marriage might promote a particular welfare—that of the couple—it would not promote the general welfare, which arises from raising healthy, balanced children who have all the interior resources necessary to become contributing citizens.
[ No surprise that these sickos are passing nasty diseases around. ]
[h=1]Blinding cases of syphilis found on West Coast, now potentially in L.A.[/h] By Joseph Serna contact the reporter
More cases of ocular syphilis - an STD that can cause blindness - spark concern
Public health officials across the West Coast are urging medical professionals to look out for cases of ocular syphilis – a sexually transmitted disease that can cause blindness – after two potential cases in Los Angeles recently.
On Thursday, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health issued an advisory for primary and eye-care providers to look out for symptoms associated with the disease, which is usually a complication of primary or secondary syphilis infections.
With more than a dozen cases – most of them among gay men – reported between Seattle and San Francisco and now potentially two in Southern California, the AIDS Healthcare Foundation is calling for medical professionals to do more.
“These new cases … highlight the importance of ongoing, regular check-ups for sexually active individuals who feel they may be at risk, particularly men who have sex with men," said AHF President Michael Weinstein in a statement.
Some of the patients also are HIV positive, including six in San Francisco. In Seattle, two of the patients went blind.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, California’s syphilis rate was second in the country behind only Georgia. Los Angeles also had the highest number of primary and secondary cases of syphilis of any county in the U.S. in 2013, the CDC reported
[h=1]Blinding cases of syphilis found on West Coast, now potentially in L.A.[/h] By Joseph Serna contact the reporter
More cases of ocular syphilis - an STD that can cause blindness - spark concern
Public health officials across the West Coast are urging medical professionals to look out for cases of ocular syphilis – a sexually transmitted disease that can cause blindness – after two potential cases in Los Angeles recently.
On Thursday, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health issued an advisory for primary and eye-care providers to look out for symptoms associated with the disease, which is usually a complication of primary or secondary syphilis infections.
With more than a dozen cases – most of them among gay men – reported between Seattle and San Francisco and now potentially two in Southern California, the AIDS Healthcare Foundation is calling for medical professionals to do more.
“These new cases … highlight the importance of ongoing, regular check-ups for sexually active individuals who feel they may be at risk, particularly men who have sex with men," said AHF President Michael Weinstein in a statement.
Some of the patients also are HIV positive, including six in San Francisco. In Seattle, two of the patients went blind.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, California’s syphilis rate was second in the country behind only Georgia. Los Angeles also had the highest number of primary and secondary cases of syphilis of any county in the U.S. in 2013, the CDC reported
Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet accounted for 63% of estimated new HIV infections in the United States and 78% of infections among all newly infected men. From 2008 to 2010, new HIV infections increased 22% among young (aged 13-24) gay and bisexual men and 12% among gay and bisexual men overall.
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The fact that as a society we pretend being gay is something anywhere normal or that should be celebrated is ridiculous.
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The fact that as a society we pretend being gay is something anywhere normal or that should be celebrated is ridiculous.
In case anyone dispute these outrageous stats:
US Center for Disease Control:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/
