Delaware DENIED Sportsbetting

[iamnomad]

J-Straw...FYI, federal judges are appointed to lifetime terms. Again, the real key here will be the current effort in court to overturn the 92 law, which many in the legal community believe is flawed.

Also FYI, Sen. Bradley did not "slam dunk" sports betting out of New Jersey. In fact, NJ was given special consideration because of the existance of casinos there. The state was given 2 WHOLE YEARS in the 92 law to decide whether it wanted sports gambling. It took no action, so at the end of the 2 year period, it reverted to the status of every other state that had not authorized sports gambling. Ironically, the current NJ gov, Corzine, just recently joined the case to overturn the 92 law.

 

[kermit16]

The NFL put a stop to Superbowl parties in Vegas.

Please explain, not familiar with this.[/quote]
Actually the NFL did not put an end to Super Bowl parties here in Vegas. The only thing the stupid Commissioner could do was to force Las Vegas to not use the term " Super Bowl " as apparently that is a patented phrase that belongs to the NFL. So now the same parties take place but Las Vegas simply calls the party the " Big Game Party "

 

[BAGIANT]

How can the Feds step in when there's been no betting yet? It's like busting a bookie when he's had no action!

Must have been some "stay" order.

 

[Boxer22]

After what happened today im convinced no other city besides Vegas will ever have straight game sports betting. Imagine if your Dover Downs right now who put all of that money into the place for a sportsbook. Now your sitting there with your dick in your hand.

 

[tanner12oz]

if anyone thinks the goverment is concerned about our well being and moral decay they need to be put on meds

 

[sean1]

If I were Deleware, I'd let people bet parlays with one team making up both sides.

Games AB and CD

Bet AC parlay and AD parlay. Payoff at whatever -110 is for team A.

End of story and advertise it as -110 betting through parlays.

 

[sean1]

The NFL also tried to block large viewing of the Superbowl in Vegas. A few years back, I recall "parties" could not be over 40 people as evidently that violated some viewing license.

The NFL is retarded

 

[BAGIANT]

Actually, I think the "rule" on advertising the Super Bowl parties was they couldn't have a big screen TV larger than 50 ".

 

[JackStraw77]

If I were Deleware, I'd let people bet parlays with one team making up both sides.

Games AB and CD

Bet AC parlay and AD parlay. Payoff at whatever -110 is for team A.

End of story and advertise it as -110 betting through parlays.

They are not going to let the state "backdoor" straight bets. Right now I say the chance of Delaware having regular betting is about the same odds as universal health insurance in this country.

 

[Whoson1st]

If I were Deleware, I'd let people bet parlays with one team making up both sides.

Games AB and CD

Bet AC parlay and AD parlay. Payoff at whatever -110 is for team A.

End of story and advertise it as -110 betting through parlays.

I LOVE IT! Seeing as how the NFL loves to play with fancy words and ideas, this would be an idea; sort of a taste of their own medicine. So what if they try to stop it again. At least a couple weeks will pass in the NFL season, before they can get another hearing!

 

[Sekrah]

Or...... Saw this idea on another forum.


Jets +3 -110
Ravens +3 -110

Total Over .5 -100000000
Total Under .5 +100000

 

[Cusipz]

Or...... Saw this idea on another forum.


Jets +3 -110
Ravens +3 -110

Total Over .5 -100000000
Total Under .5 +100000

Can you imagine a game going 0-0 into OT ?

The whole book would be dying, and 1 guy would have the under, betting $1 on it every game....15$/week for 100k, not bad.

 

[bigtendominator]

Or...... Saw this idea on another forum.


Jets +3 -110
Ravens +3 -110

Total Over .5 -100000000
Total Under .5 +100000

Nothing wrong with this. What is the NFL going to say, we don't like the lines?

 

[GoGoBird]

Or...... Saw this idea on another forum.


Jets +3 -110
Ravens +3 -110

Total Over .5 -100000000
Total Under .5 +100000

Thats fine for a day with one game but how do you do that for full Saturday and Sunday cards? Do you just list one over/under that has a line like that which people can parlay to? Also how would you easily distinguish the payout on that parlay vs a normal 2 teamer?

 

[bigtendominator]

If you wish to make what would normal be a straight wager,
please take

team A over .5 -100000000
and another team.

for a 2 teamer, add a 3 team, but everyone must play team A over. 5 -100000000

 

[GoGoBird]

If you wish to make what would normal be a straight wager,
please take

team A over .5 -100000000
and another team.

for a 2 teamer, add a 3 team, but everyone must play team A over. 5 -100000000

Interesting. Wonder if Delaware is thinking it through to this level. Know some folks in government that can probably easily push some ideas upwards. Keep the ideas coming and will be sure to send him these ideas to push up. Though you would think the consultants DE has hired have similar ideas.

 

[bigtendominator]

I don't believe the ruling today is a problem.

This is a simple solution.

You can make the following wagers.

All 1 PM EST games will have a designated game as the over
.5 game and the 4 PM will have the same and on the Sunday and MNF games you can do the following:

Say you want a straigt wager UNDER:

San Diego vs CLE

SD vs CLE over .5 -1000000000
parlayed with SD vs CLE Under 37.5 -110.

 

[Sekrah]

Can you imagine a game going 0-0 into OT ?

The whole book would be dying, and 1 guy would have the under, betting $1 on it every game....15$/week for 100k, not bad.

Ummm.. What are you gabbing about?

A) This hasnt happened in the NFL since 1943. With the way the game has changed since then I would wager that it will NEVER happen again. (Unless they dramatically change rules to promote low-scoring/good defense, which will also NEVER happen)

B) Book would be dying??? They win every fck'n other parlay bet that day with that total.

C) It would actually pay twice that with the parlay.


You could offer me 10,000,000-1 on a game finishing 0-0, I would NEVER take that bet. I have better odds with my state lottery.

 

[theMadMan]

here it is.........

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
No. 09-3297
OFFICE OF COMMISSIONER OF BASEBALL, et al.
Appellants
v.
JACK A. MARKELL, GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF DELAWARE, et al.
(D. Del. No. 09-cv-00538)
Present: MCKEE, FUENTES and HARDIMAN, Circuit Judges
We determine that there is no factual issue with respect to the merits in this case.
We conclude, as a matter of law, that the Delaware sports lottery, planned to commence
September 1, 2009, pursuant to the authority granted in 29 Del. Code § 4805, violates the
Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, 28 U.S.C. §§ 3701​

​

et seq., and is not
covered by the exemption in 28 U.S.C. § 3704(a)(1). Accordingly, there is no need to
address the issue of irreparable harm. An opinion of this Court will follow.
By the Court,
/s/ Theodore A. McKee
Circuit Judge
Dated: August 24, 2009
PDB/cc: All Counsel of Record​

Case: 09-3297 Document: 00319781637 Page: 1 Date Filed: 08/24/2009

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28 USC CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS
PROTECTION 01/08/2008

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TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

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CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

-MISC1-
Sec.
3701. Definitions.
3702. Unlawful sports gambling.
3703. Injunctions.
3704. Applicability.

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-CITE-
28 USC Sec. 3701 01/08/2008

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TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

-HEAD-
Sec. 3701. Definitions

-STATUTE-
For purposes of this chapter -
(1) the term "amateur sports organization" means -
(A) a person or governmental entity that sponsors, organizes,
schedules, or conducts a competitive game in which one or more
amateur athletes participate, or
(B) a league or association of persons or governmental
entities described in subparagraph (A),

(2) the term "governmental entity" means a State, a political
subdivision of a State, or an entity or organization, including
an entity or organization described in section 4(5) of the Indian
Gaming Regulatory Act (25 U.S.C. 2703(5)), that has governmental
authority within the territorial boundaries of the United States,
including on lands described in section 4(4) of such Act (25
U.S.C. 2703(4)),
(3) the term "professional sports organization" means -
(A) a person or governmental entity that sponsors, organizes,
schedules, or conducts a competitive game in which one or more
professional athletes participate, or
(B) a league or association of persons or governmental
entities described in subparagraph (A),

(4) the term "person" has the meaning given such term in
section 1 of title 1, and
(5) the term "State" means any of the several States, the
District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the
Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Palau, or any
territory or possession of the United States.

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 102-559, Sec. 2(a), Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4227.)


-MISC1-
EFFECTIVE DATE
Section 3 of Pub. L. 102-559 provided that: "This Act [enacting
this chapter and provisions set out as a note under section 1 of
this title] shall take effect on January 1, 1993."

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28 USC Sec. 3702 01/08/2008

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TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

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Sec. 3702. Unlawful sports gambling

-STATUTE-
It shall be unlawful for -
(1) a governmental entity to sponsor, operate, advertise,
promote, license, or authorize by law or compact, or
(2) a person to sponsor, operate, advertise, or promote,
pursuant to the law or compact of a governmental entity,

a lottery, sweepstakes, or other betting, gambling, or wagering
scheme based, directly or indirectly (through the use of
geographical references or otherwise), on one or more competitive
games in which amateur or professional athletes participate, or are
intended to participate, or on one or more performances of such
athletes in such games.

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 102-559, Sec. 2(a), Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4228.)

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28 USC Sec. 3703 01/08/2008

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TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

-HEAD-
Sec. 3703. Injunctions

-STATUTE-
A civil action to enjoin a violation of section 3702 may be
commenced in an appropriate district court of the United States by
the Attorney General of the United States, or by a professional
sports organization or amateur sports organization whose
competitive game is alleged to be the basis of such violation.

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 102-559, Sec. 2(a), Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4228.)

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28 USC Sec. 3704 01/08/2008

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TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 178 - PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION

-HEAD-
Sec. 3704. Applicability

-STATUTE-
(a) Section 3702 shall not apply to -
(1) a lottery, sweepstakes, or other betting, gambling, or
wagering scheme in operation in a State or other governmental
entity, to the extent that the scheme was conducted by that State
or other governmental entity at any time during the period
beginning January 1, 1976, and ending August 31, 1990;
(2) a lottery, sweepstakes, or other betting, gambling, or
wagering scheme in operation in a State or other governmental
entity where both -
(A) such scheme was authorized by a statute as in effect on
October 2, 1991; and
(B) a scheme described in section 3702 (other than one based
on parimutuel animal racing or jai-alai games) actually was
conducted in that State or other governmental entity at any
time during the period beginning September 1, 1989, and ending
October 2, 1991, pursuant to the law of that State or other
governmental entity;

(3) a betting, gambling, or wagering scheme, other than a
lottery described in paragraph (1), conducted exclusively in
casinos located in a municipality, but only to the extent that -
(A) such scheme or a similar scheme was authorized, not later
than one year after the effective date of this chapter, to be
operated in that municipality; and
(B) any commercial casino gaming scheme was in operation in
such municipality throughout the 10-year period ending on such
effective date pursuant to a comprehensive system of State
regulation authorized by that State's constitution and
applicable solely to such municipality; or

(4) parimutuel animal racing or jai-alai games.

(b) Except as provided in subsection (a), section 3702 shall
apply on lands described in section 4(4) of the Indian Gaming
Regulatory Act (25 U.S.C. 2703(4)).

-SOURCE-
(Added Pub. L. 102-559, Sec. 2(a), Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4228.)

-REFTEXT-
REFERENCES IN TEXT
The effective date of this chapter, referred to in subsec.
(a)(3)(A), is Jan. 1, 1993, see section 3 of Pub. L. 102-559, set
out as an Effective Date note under section 3701 of this title.

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[theMadMan]

In My opinion i believe "Atlantic City" is behind this more than Anyone one would like you to KNOW.....


FACT: THEY HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE!!!!!!