Has there ever been a tout that has actually posted consistent winners? Doesn't therodfather charge for his picks but is highly successful? Just wondering.
In general, that shit is fucked up. But can't really blame 'em...so long as people are stupid and gullible enough to follow, they'll always be profitable. Unfortunate, but I can't blame people for trying to cash in on the stupidity of human nature.
In general, that shit is fucked up. But can't really blame 'em...so long as people are stupid and gullible enough to follow, they'll always be profitable. Unfortunate, but I can't blame people for trying to cash in on the stupidity of human nature.
Whilest not being a tout, I was wondering what is your honorable profession?
The reason I ask is that I'm a Stockbroker and I'm sure there are forum's that would slander my profession. One could also make a case for Lawyers, Doctors, Politicians, any Salesperon etc, etc.
Just wondering....
Hal
The reason I ask is that I'm a Stockbroker and I'm sure there are forum's that would slander my profession. One could also make a case for Lawyers, Doctors, Politicians, any Salesperon etc, etc.
Just wondering....
Hal
I am an attorney but I only buy distressed properties like foreclosures or tax deeds (thus, I do not practice). And yes, 95% of attorneys are worms that are trying to rip you off for as much as they can. But the difference is there are times when you need an attorney, i.e., getting a divorce, filing a suit, defending a criminal proceeding. There is never a need for a tout. More importantly, touts sell broken dreams and lose. Take Kodiak for example, newbies here actually think he wins long term but in the record tracker he is negative 125 units in bases. If I was winning 100+ units a year the last thing I would be doing is drawing attention to myself. I would be trying to consistently get down 2 dimes a game at a good number if possible
Giving a tout money for picks is the worst thing a player can do. They lie, cheat, and steal from anyone they can suck in. True scumbags as they might be losing their ass for an entire season, but are 80% the last two days and are on fire! And everyone should jump on their runaway train to loserville! :missingte The season record is never mentioned when they are losing....just fragments of time when they got lucky and won a few games.
I don't like touts. That is why we keep the brian mac thread going. It is also why I agreed to monitor the guy from Chicago Hotsides. At least that way someone can see what their getting if they do decide to sign up. Places like the sports monitor let the people like Mark Lawrence, Phil Steele, Jim Feist, etc put up 20 different clubs, so if somebody looks over there, they don't get any consistency as to how these dirtbags do. Phil's marquee club may be up 15 games, but his 900 club may be down 30. There is nowhere that someone who may want to pay someone for plays can go and see if their really is someone who delivers the goods. I can tell you first hand I've never seen one that consistently wins. I'm giving this guy from Chicago Hotsides an opportunity to do so. The problem is when you monitor these guys, they all want you to give them the best line possible. I would not begrudge someone to make a living actually doing what they say they can do. If they can produce you consistent winners, more power to them. Unfortunately, it is a business full of scum and I've yet to find one that does. Most of the guys that do it don't even bet. I know for a fact that Phil Steele, Joe Gavazzi, The guy from pointwise(he was my cousins roomate at Syracuse in the 60's, but I can't remember his name), Cowtown, California Sports, Bob Dunbar, Brian mac, none of these guys bet. It is a joke. The least they could do if they are so confident in their plays is bet them with you.
Kodiak7 said:
geez your crying act is wearing thin. All your losses are tough beats. All your non-posted plays win. STFU and bet your own money instead of trying to sucker some pathetic losers onto your e-mail coin-flipping list or better yet, go post somewhere else like you keep threatening to do.
At least have something original like casinoman used to with his raving about blowing up vegas with inside info. At least that bullshit was funny sometimes.
sorry, but I just could'nt resist ..........
CoClown, is it really you? Welcome back. I've been working on some new recipies in anticipation of your return for bases. Details will have to come later but the early spring light menu includes:
Mock Tout Soup
Whipped Hawaiian Nut Spread on Juicy Toast Points
Mixed Park Place Greens with Chalky Broadway Dressing
Ice Cold Record Fudge
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Mahalo and BonAppetit!
PINEAPPLE UPSIDEDOWN TOUT (AKA HAWAIIAN TOUT)
1 Hawaiian tout, ice-cold
10 Gallons juice (pineapple)
1 Pineapple top (discard fruit)
1 Turkey baster
Clean tout and place face-down on worksurface.
Fill turkey baster with juice and insert in tout rectum. Fill tout with juice until it can hold no more. Withdraw turkey baster and plug rectum with pineapple top. Carefully lift tout and while holding at arms length allow tout to fall flat on its face to the floor of a hot Lanai. Leave in place overnite. Scrape from floor in the morning and serve "flipped" in its own juice after removing pineapple plug (which should be saved for garnish). Serve with Dry Whine.
Note: The last time I tried this dish, the chef was so proud of it he didn't even charge me. Just said I could pay whatever I could afford. Now that's a nice guy!!
Aloha and Bon Appetit!
CoClown, is it really you? Welcome back. I've been working on some new recipies in anticipation of your return for bases. Details will have to come later but the early spring light menu includes:
Mock Tout Soup
Whipped Hawaiian Nut Spread on Juicy Toast Points
Mixed Park Place Greens with Chalky Broadway Dressing
Ice Cold Record Fudge
******************************************************
Mahalo and BonAppetit!
PINEAPPLE UPSIDEDOWN TOUT (AKA HAWAIIAN TOUT)
1 Hawaiian tout, ice-cold
10 Gallons juice (pineapple)
1 Pineapple top (discard fruit)
1 Turkey baster
Clean tout and place face-down on worksurface.
Fill turkey baster with juice and insert in tout rectum. Fill tout with juice until it can hold no more. Withdraw turkey baster and plug rectum with pineapple top. Carefully lift tout and while holding at arms length allow tout to fall flat on its face to the floor of a hot Lanai. Leave in place overnite. Scrape from floor in the morning and serve "flipped" in its own juice after removing pineapple plug (which should be saved for garnish). Serve with Dry Whine.
Note: The last time I tried this dish, the chef was so proud of it he didn't even charge me. Just said I could pay whatever I could afford. Now that's a nice guy!!
Aloha and Bon Appetit!
I just thought id chime in here:
Not a tout or whatever -
But you can't get all pissed at people who sell their plays. Its just like anything else. Actually, what really got me interested was that stockbrocker post.
When you become a broker they NEVER teach you how to make money. They make you read a few manuals on how to pass your series 7 etc. and then send you off to learn how to RECRUIT clients. You can sit there and do all the research you want and pine over PE Rations etc etc. till your eyes bleed - but a stock broker doesn't know anymore than anyone else who does the same research. Think about it - stocks are priced baised on public preception (what someone is willing to buy or sell an equity for) Why was Amazon - a company thats basically a few warehouses valued more than Boeing Aircraft back in 2000? Certianly not b/c of facts and figures, but of preception - which can't really be predicted.
Sorry - got off an on a rant there
Basically - touts are just like brokers - they try and recruit clients b/c they tell them that they can take care of their money better than the client can. Does this sound familiar? "We'll allocate so much of your portfolio to high risk, medium risk, and low risk blah blah" There is NO SUCH THING AS High risk/low risk/ etc. b.c its ALL SPECULATION. But its the same as saying 20 Unit BOM, 5 unit play 2 unit play....and trust me brokers have lost alot of people a SHIT load of money - And NO, i haven't been burned by a stock brocker...
I think touts are a part of the business - and shit, its funny to read their crap about syndicates and inside info - No one sticks a gun to anyones head to bet or buy plays - you do that all yourself
Not a tout or whatever -
But you can't get all pissed at people who sell their plays. Its just like anything else. Actually, what really got me interested was that stockbrocker post.
When you become a broker they NEVER teach you how to make money. They make you read a few manuals on how to pass your series 7 etc. and then send you off to learn how to RECRUIT clients. You can sit there and do all the research you want and pine over PE Rations etc etc. till your eyes bleed - but a stock broker doesn't know anymore than anyone else who does the same research. Think about it - stocks are priced baised on public preception (what someone is willing to buy or sell an equity for) Why was Amazon - a company thats basically a few warehouses valued more than Boeing Aircraft back in 2000? Certianly not b/c of facts and figures, but of preception - which can't really be predicted.
Sorry - got off an on a rant there
Basically - touts are just like brokers - they try and recruit clients b/c they tell them that they can take care of their money better than the client can. Does this sound familiar? "We'll allocate so much of your portfolio to high risk, medium risk, and low risk blah blah" There is NO SUCH THING AS High risk/low risk/ etc. b.c its ALL SPECULATION. But its the same as saying 20 Unit BOM, 5 unit play 2 unit play....and trust me brokers have lost alot of people a SHIT load of money - And NO, i haven't been burned by a stock brocker...
I think touts are a part of the business - and shit, its funny to read their crap about syndicates and inside info - No one sticks a gun to anyones head to bet or buy plays - you do that all yourself
how the hell are stock brokers like touts? stock brokers are more like bookies than touts.
touts are more like tv preachers in white suits healing people on stage and selling the hankerchiefs they just blew their nose in because it has the power the end all runny noses.
touts are more like tv preachers in white suits healing people on stage and selling the hankerchiefs they just blew their nose in because it has the power the end all runny noses.
