I dont care what you guys think after hearing David talk the man is right. David Stern did the right thing. He cant determine intent and he cant determine the pace in which somebody is running towards the altercation. He goes by the rule book. The rule book says you cant run towrds the altercation and come off the bench thats the rule. They got suspended. Dont see nothing wrong with that. If you want to judge the rule right then change it. Also all these arguments about david messed up the series. He didnt amare and diaw messed up the series. Also as a fan I want to see all the players. But he was right. Also for all you they say it sucks are you the same people that complain when superstars and athletes get away with muder and gets a fine and probation. Also David gets big credit for cominig out today doing interviews and stating his point and not hiding away.
The rule is there for a reason - suppose SA had Artest and Steve Jackson sitting on its bench - this breaks out - Amare and Diaw run onto the court - do you think these two are going to sit there and hold their dicks - they'd meet Diaw and Amare at half court swinging the chairs they were sitting on - Stern is well aware that a good percentage of these players are once removed from gang life - no doubt the rule is absolutely fucking the Suns though.
Fair enough. If the rule states that you can't leave the bench, then you can't leave the bench, and you could say Stern did the "correct" thing to suspend Amare and Diaw. Fine. But with that line of thought, then Duncan should ALSO be suspended, no if's and's or but's. PERIOD. Baron Davis ALSO should've been suspended in last night's game. How the FUCK can you give Stern props for that?:nono5:
Easy but fair question doing an altercation is the key word in the rule. When Duncan left the bench there was not an altercation occurring at the time. Yes his teammate was on the floor but it wasnt an altercation. Now the baron Davis thing which i knew was going to come up, is totally different. Yes i think it was a cheap shot but what do the rules state in that situation. If it leaves more room for interpetation then its up to stern. Also Baron did walk back to make sure fisher was ok. Then he checked on him again when fisher was walking back towards the bench. But the point is the rule in which a player leaves the bench there is no interpetation for stern they left doing an altercation automatic suspension.
You must be out of your mind . When Duncan came off the bench there was not a confrontation between two players. The Phx player was running down the floor and Elson had just fallen from hanging on the rim.
You must have never a seen the Detroit Piston game. These guys are always jumping on to the court after dunks , blocks and pretty much anything worth cheering about.
The rule only applies to fights or situations that could lead to fights.
That being said, it is unfortunaite that Stoudimire and Diaw will not be in Tonights game. And for the record I have no problem with Horry being suspended.
But I do think fouls today are nothing compared to what we used to see 15-20 ago. Horry's foul might have only drawn 1 Technical -no ejection and definately no suspension.
Did Stern really ruin it?..Or was it the thugs whose instinctive reaction was to rush the court..If this was NCAA or High School those same two clowns would be in the center of the court in a brawl..I say David Stern is right..Or do we bend the rules to enhance the series?..A rule is a rule is a rule..
Therein lies the bullshit system. The fact that some things are left for Stern to interpret while other things are set in stone. I know this isn't a discussion about the rule in itself, but I just think that's bullshit. So it's OK for a player to elbow an opposing player out of frustration as long as he goes and makes sure the fella he elbowed is alright? That's fuckin laughable if you ask me.
And if you ask me about the Duncan incident as he was walking off the bench, he sure did look like he was coming off IN CASE there would be an altercation. That's just my interpretation
Those who support the fact that Duncan wasn't suspended because there wasn't an "altercation" are missing one obvious point.
When Amare/Diaw left the bench, that was when Nash was on the floor, immediate reaction and before the "altercation" started. They retreated when the alercation started.
Duncan left the bench also before any "altercation started" when the 2 players got tangled.
So, their motives were the same, but the fact that an altercation did start with Horry/Bell, the Suns were suspended.
So, if James Jones, hauls off and punches the SA dude, then Duncan would have gotten suspeded.
This whole thing is BS.... STern is an idiot. He is basing suspensions on whether an altercation was started, that makes no sense. Both players reacted similarly, a natural reaction.
When Amare/Diaw left the bench, that was when Nash was on the floor, immediate reaction and before the "altercation" started. They retreated when the alercation started.
Duncan left the bench also before any "altercation started" when the 2 players got tangled.
So, their motives were the same, but the fact that an altercation did start with Horry/Bell, the Suns were suspended.
So, if James Jones, hauls off and punches the SA dude, then Duncan would have gotten suspeded.
This whole thing is BS.... STern is an idiot. He is basing suspensions on whether an altercation was started, that makes no sense. Both players reacted similarly, a natural reaction.
Dead wrong. Nash writhed in "agony" for several seconds, and Rajah Bell had already gotten into Horry's face, to which Horry responded with a forearm shiver, so the altercation had most assuredly started, and the assitant coaches hastily shoved them back, but it was too late. There was never any altercation whatsoever in the Duncan case, so the two have nothing to do with each other, and there's no room for "interpretation", either.
Such an idiotic comment dennis the f'n menace. They are black so they must be thugs i guess is your logic. You are playing pick up ball with your buddies, one of who gets a cheap shot. i guess your reaction is to say oh thats alright i still love you! no anyone who is in that situation is gonna react in the same manner those 2 did.
