he should dominate the conference in track. kid grabbed the silver in the world juniors last year in 110m hurdles. the other 5-star CB that is already on campus isn't too slow either...big pickups for both foots and track. just need Brown to stay in the sports section instead of the police blotter
Yeah RT. Stealing 5 star corner Tony Brown out of Texas was a nice pickup. He's got good size at 6-1, 190 and great speed. I heard he was read the 'riot act' not only by Saban but a number of the senior players for getting off on the wrong foot. Word is one senior linebacker really got in his face.
Poor corner play really hurt the defense at times. That Texas A&M game was painful to watch. One or both should get a chance to play come fall.
Poor corner play really hurt the defense at times. That Texas A&M game was painful to watch. One or both should get a chance to play come fall.
It's crazy, I look forward to the off-season to see actual football talk. Love the discussions fellas.
Updated Top 10.
6 SEC schools
1 Big Ten school
2 ACC schools
1 Independent
1. Alabama - SEC
2. Ohio State - Big Ten
3. Texas A&M - SEC
4. Tennessee - SEC
5. Florida State - ACC
6. LSU -SEC
7. Florida - SEC
8. Miami - ACC
9. Georgia - SEC
10. Notre Dame - Indep/ACC
The closest Big12 school is texas at #14 (behind Kentucky)
The closest Pac12 school is Arizona State #16
Updated Top 10.
6 SEC schools
1 Big Ten school
2 ACC schools
1 Independent
1. Alabama - SEC
2. Ohio State - Big Ten
3. Texas A&M - SEC
4. Tennessee - SEC
5. Florida State - ACC
6. LSU -SEC
7. Florida - SEC
8. Miami - ACC
9. Georgia - SEC
10. Notre Dame - Indep/ACC
The closest Big12 school is texas at #14 (behind Kentucky)
The closest Pac12 school is Arizona State #16
Thanks linebets for the update...appreciate it partner..............
Some around the state of Alabama are saying this 2014 class may be the best group Saban has brought in for the Tide. Right now there are five 5star and thirteen 4star players committed. Kirby Smart is working hard to land another 5star who played high school ball in Auburn's back yard. His name escapes me at this moment. Getting the FSU quarterback transfer may turn out to be the best recruit, at least immediately. Saban's not bringing him in to sit on the bench.
On paper this looks like a real strong class but they will have to go some to beat the 2009 class. After all, those recruits were part of three national championships.
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Some around the state of Alabama are saying this 2014 class may be the best group Saban has brought in for the Tide. Right now there are five 5star and thirteen 4star players committed. Kirby Smart is working hard to land another 5star who played high school ball in Auburn's back yard. His name escapes me at this moment. Getting the FSU quarterback transfer may turn out to be the best recruit, at least immediately. Saban's not bringing him in to sit on the bench.
On paper this looks like a real strong class but they will have to go some to beat the 2009 class. After all, those recruits were part of three national championships.
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CL, read an article that said Bama is going to have to cut 8 players who haven't gotten their degrees to get this 2014 class in.
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2014/1/27/5349996/2014-roster-lookahead-the-number-crunch
From the story:
So here's the final tally - if we sign 27 (and they all qualify academically), Bama will basically have to cut eight guys that don't have their degrees yet. I want to emphasize that there really isn't any wiggle room here. No amount of backcounting/sleight of hand helps with these final numbers. Unless some of the 16 unenrolled current commits are going to take a greyshirt (and not sign on national signing day), those slots will have to come from the current roster.
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2014/1/27/5349996/2014-roster-lookahead-the-number-crunch
From the story:
So here's the final tally - if we sign 27 (and they all qualify academically), Bama will basically have to cut eight guys that don't have their degrees yet. I want to emphasize that there really isn't any wiggle room here. No amount of backcounting/sleight of hand helps with these final numbers. Unless some of the 16 unenrolled current commits are going to take a greyshirt (and not sign on national signing day), those slots will have to come from the current roster.
Mack, how old are you? You started following Bama in 1946? Wow! I'm "only" 43! BTW, Pell coached at UF from 1979-1984. He truly turned UF around, regardless of the probation that followed. He was there for the unofficial "first" SEC title. Galen did a decent job as well...until the probation penalties kicked in (leading the FSU becoming a football power).
Agree that Muschamp is on borrowed time. I can't believe they didnt' let him go. I understand the injuries were unprecedented...but losing to a 1AA team in Gainesville is inexcusable. The offense down there is a complete shit-show. Inexcusable what they've done for 3 years on that side of the ball.
Agree that Muschamp is on borrowed time. I can't believe they didnt' let him go. I understand the injuries were unprecedented...but losing to a 1AA team in Gainesville is inexcusable. The offense down there is a complete shit-show. Inexcusable what they've done for 3 years on that side of the ball.
Coach, most of the elite programs face the scholarship limit (85) problem every year. After losing to Auburn and Oklahoma to end the season...Saban put everyone on notice. He's changed four assistant coaches and told players some would be paying their way next year if they stayed with the Tide. It goes on in every major program in the country. You play...we pay. Otherwise walkon, transfer or........
Saban said from day one at Alabama that players have two years to prove they can play, if not he looks to the younger players. A lot of transfers you see going on with freshman or sophmores at major programs these days fall into that category.
For an example. Look at Tennessee with 33 commitments. Only 25 can receive a scholarship this year..so what happens with the others?
Saban said from day one at Alabama that players have two years to prove they can play, if not he looks to the younger players. A lot of transfers you see going on with freshman or sophmores at major programs these days fall into that category.
For an example. Look at Tennessee with 33 commitments. Only 25 can receive a scholarship this year..so what happens with the others?
Coach: I graduated from H.S. in (52)..I'll let you do the math (ha). I mentioned in a previous post that the reason I followed Bama during the mid-40's when I was just a Kid was because the famous cowboy movie star (Johnny Mack Brown) played there back in the late 20's and early 30's..... that was "pretty cool" back then..... a football great becoming a cowboy hero in the movies.
During World War ll and shorty thereafter, all the great football players were in the military.....that is why Army & Navy (there was no Air Force Academy back then) dominated college football big-time. However we "Northerners", who were in-the-know, ha.... were familiar with the teams and the coaching legends of the Southeast back then...Dodd at Georgia Tech, Butts at Georgia, Neyland at Tennessee, Jordan at Auburn and, of course "Bear" Bryant at Alabama (be reminded that this era was before TV or even net-work radio)....The seeds of the historical traditions and history of the SEC was laid-in for good during this period-in-time (Ga Tech was a member of the SEC from 1932-1964....probably should be to this day)......The Mississippi schools had good teams but never quite reached the level of those schools mentioned above..........LSU....they were still "Cajuns" entwined with Huey Long...not quite ready for prominence but they were working-on-it......Dietzle and his "Chinese Bandits" and everybody's America Jim Taylor went undefeated back in 1958....the "bandits" didn't allow a touchdown all season (unbelievable but true). Kentucky....too for north for true southerners (ha). Florida....wasn't that the school from near Lake Okeechobee ? The seeds of the modern-day SEC were laid back then.....We northerners wouldn't admit-it, we thought it was only Michigan, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Ohio State et al and a few pretenders that spelled college back then......how little did we know.
True fans of the SEC schools need-not apologize for their history .....I don't care what Harvard or Yale fans say.
Damn Mack...."Chinese Bandits" with Paul Dietzle ...brings back memories. Dietzle came from one of the military academies to head up the Tigers. Later he moved on to coach South Carolina. Back in the day, Green Bay was my favorite team. Jim Taylor at fullback and Paul Horning at running back. That sorryass quarterback from Alabama made the ticket for me.
I can still name you the starting players for the Packers during their championship run.
RX College Football Banquet with you and Russ as headliners for some great stories....I'd pay! :toast:
Lot of college football knowledge available here at RX....just need some help understanding that.
I can still name you the starting players for the Packers during their championship run.
RX College Football Banquet with you and Russ as headliners for some great stories....I'd pay! :toast:
Lot of college football knowledge available here at RX....just need some help understanding that.
You've been "around" Clover, and, you are NOT a kid anymore.....your football knowledge is immeasurable....I'm impressed with your recollections of the Lombardi-era Green Bay Packers led by that 15th round-draft pick from Alabama....Bart Starr...A class-act and a true Southern Gentleman (they named a street after him in Green Bay. Paul Hornung, a talented "play-boy" out-of Notre Dame, was ready to be run-out of professional football (some bad-habits) until Lombardi became coach and took him into the "wood-shed" and gave him the "either-or" lecture/ultimatum....the rest is history. He, Hornung, was the first of the "long-hairs" in the NFL...Forrest Gregg nick-named him "goldilocks". The great Packer teams always had a "southern" pipe-line that enhanced it's roster....Look at the "Maverick" quarterbacks, Bret & Bart, both Super Bowl winners at Green Bay who came from the Deep-South. Starr, a 15th round-pick and Favre, a 19th round pick from that school in Southern Mississippi....just goes to show-us.....first round picks aren't always the answer.....that is the beauty of football.
FYI: I was at the "Ice Bowl"; No-one can imagine how cold it was sitting there watching the players go through the motions of playing a football game on a turf that what was the equivalent of a hard-surface play-ground....cleats nor sneakers worked (Lambeau's playing surface is now heated).
I had a chance to go to Super Bowl (one) but had to turn it down....the price of a ticket was too expensive...they topped-out at $15.00.....and the cost of a trip to Pasadena was out of my budget (a young family).
I, and many others here in the Rx, read all your posts/threads "Clover"....keep them coming and good luck tomorrow.
FYI: I was at the "Ice Bowl"; No-one can imagine how cold it was sitting there watching the players go through the motions of playing a football game on a turf that what was the equivalent of a hard-surface play-ground....cleats nor sneakers worked (Lambeau's playing surface is now heated).
I had a chance to go to Super Bowl (one) but had to turn it down....the price of a ticket was too expensive...they topped-out at $15.00.....and the cost of a trip to Pasadena was out of my budget (a young family).
I, and many others here in the Rx, read all your posts/threads "Clover"....keep them coming and good luck tomorrow.
Very interesting article on the success rate of 5-star recruits reaching the NFL based on Rivals data.. Interesting that the OL position is among the most difficult to accurately evaluate and predict. The QB position probably isn't far behind. They also say that the 3 SEC teams who have struggled the most to develop talent are Tennessee, Florida and Miss St.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...um=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...um=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
GoSooners, a couple of the oldtimers I have lunch (football bull session) with everyday have a question for you. What's the real story with Alabama quarterback recruit David Cornwell, who played high school ball there in Norman? Did Oklahoma not want him or was he one of those kids who just wanted to play away from home. He's already on campus in Tuscaloosa and will go through spring drills with the Tide.
Actually he was Bama's only QB recruit until the FSU kid transferred in.
Actually he was Bama's only QB recruit until the FSU kid transferred in.
Cornwell will be fine. He's a very talented QB. OU pursued Justin Hansen instead of Cornwell because I think Hansen fit OU's offense a little better than the 240 pound Cornwell, who is built more like a Blake Bell. I think with OU's QB read offense, they were looking for someone with a little more mobility like Trevor Knight. But Hansen is from my hometown. I've seen him play several times. He has a very strong arm, and is better than Knight at throwing the ball. I know Cornwell was listed one of the top 5 QB prospects in the country. But if Hansen hadn't gotten hurt in his senior season and missed a couple important Rivals football camps, I believe he would have been ranked up there with him. Still, I believe both kids are 4 star recruits. But Cornwell should fit well in Bama's offensive system.
Much appreciated GS.........
A group of us eat lunch together almost every weekday at Ryan's Buffet and the talk is always college football or politics. On Friday, a couple of the guys were saying Cornwell couldn't be very good or Oklahoma wouldn't have let him leave Norman. To be honest, none of us knew why he choose Bama over the Sooners. One thing I was sure of...Cornwell had potential or Saban wouldn't have recruited him.
I knew you would have some knowledge on the subject and will relay the message at lunch tomorrow.
A group of us eat lunch together almost every weekday at Ryan's Buffet and the talk is always college football or politics. On Friday, a couple of the guys were saying Cornwell couldn't be very good or Oklahoma wouldn't have let him leave Norman. To be honest, none of us knew why he choose Bama over the Sooners. One thing I was sure of...Cornwell had potential or Saban wouldn't have recruited him.
I knew you would have some knowledge on the subject and will relay the message at lunch tomorrow.
Mack, good stuff. You're an old timer!! (and I say that with the utmost respect!)
I was born in 1970 and graduated HS in 1988. I still remember listening to college football and basketball on the radio (before cable tv, and of course ESPN). I remember only 1 or 2 UF games a year would come on tv (usually FL/GA and FL/FSU).
Funny story; when I was between my freshman and sophmore year of HS (the summer of 1985) I went to summer school to basically lift weights all summer (I was in gym class all day the whole summer). Ford Trucks filmed their commercials at our school that summer (Wolfson HS in Jacksonville). So on consecutive days we had Bobby Bowden, Vince Dooley and Galen Hall at our school to do the commercials. Our coach had us helping out the film crew with whatever they wanted (we got free food and drinks...and it was hot as hell). Some football players who had already graduated wore pads and ran around in the background. Bowden was the nicest of the bunch. Galen Hall was all chubby/fat and was sweating like a stuffed pig!
Always good to hear stories. College football has changed so much, especially since the late 80's.
I was born in 1970 and graduated HS in 1988. I still remember listening to college football and basketball on the radio (before cable tv, and of course ESPN). I remember only 1 or 2 UF games a year would come on tv (usually FL/GA and FL/FSU).
Funny story; when I was between my freshman and sophmore year of HS (the summer of 1985) I went to summer school to basically lift weights all summer (I was in gym class all day the whole summer). Ford Trucks filmed their commercials at our school that summer (Wolfson HS in Jacksonville). So on consecutive days we had Bobby Bowden, Vince Dooley and Galen Hall at our school to do the commercials. Our coach had us helping out the film crew with whatever they wanted (we got free food and drinks...and it was hot as hell). Some football players who had already graduated wore pads and ran around in the background. Bowden was the nicest of the bunch. Galen Hall was all chubby/fat and was sweating like a stuffed pig!
Always good to hear stories. College football has changed so much, especially since the late 80's.
College football is truly an All-American Sport found nowhere else except hear in the good-old U.S.A. (that, in and of itself is the beauty of it all). We love the game, especially us guys here in the Rx Forum so much so that we've been known to make a wager every now-and-then on the out-come of the game. The nature of the sport caters to the competitiveness of the combatants, the coaches and the fans.....and us sports-bettors.
You are absolutely right Coach......the game has changed dramatically since the 1980's; The players are bigger and faster and the equipment and technology surrounding the game has developed to the point where it is difficult for the average fan to keep up with it-all. Throw-in the extensive TV coverage with instant replay and the side-line communications with the coaches that sit in the press-boxes that all teams incorporate into their game-plan, you end-up with a game some people from the distant past might not recognize (i.e, yours truly). I'm glad the playing-field is still 100 yards long......ha. I hope the game as we know-it, survives.
You are absolutely right Coach......the game has changed dramatically since the 1980's; The players are bigger and faster and the equipment and technology surrounding the game has developed to the point where it is difficult for the average fan to keep up with it-all. Throw-in the extensive TV coverage with instant replay and the side-line communications with the coaches that sit in the press-boxes that all teams incorporate into their game-plan, you end-up with a game some people from the distant past might not recognize (i.e, yours truly). I'm glad the playing-field is still 100 yards long......ha. I hope the game as we know-it, survives.
Nice post Mack........you always seem to bring a sense of 'realism' with your post with no ugliness toward anyone.
RX college football lucky to have you sir.
Look at the flipside with Conan trying to have a conversation with a Crackhead....Conan can't win because the Buffoon is an expert and knows all. His beloved team is about to have their 5th straight losing season and he'll tell us all about mine/yours. Can't blame a white kid wanting to be a brotha with is crackpipe I guess.
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RX college football lucky to have you sir.
Look at the flipside with Conan trying to have a conversation with a Crackhead....Conan can't win because the Buffoon is an expert and knows all. His beloved team is about to have their 5th straight losing season and he'll tell us all about mine/yours. Can't blame a white kid wanting to be a brotha with is crackpipe I guess.
ointer:Mack, what's your favorite college football stadium?
I'd love to make it to all of the SEC venues. I've been to UF (of course), Auburn, Vandy, Tennessee, LSU, and Kentucky. I've been to a few non-SEC venues as well; FSU, Northwestern, Texas, James Madison, Washington, and Georgetown.
I live in DC, so I'd like to get to a Maryland and UVA game someday.
I'd love to make it to all of the SEC venues. I've been to UF (of course), Auburn, Vandy, Tennessee, LSU, and Kentucky. I've been to a few non-SEC venues as well; FSU, Northwestern, Texas, James Madison, Washington, and Georgetown.
I live in DC, so I'd like to get to a Maryland and UVA game someday.
Coach.....You are truly a dedicated/loyal fan of college football.....home and away. My stadium visits no-where near match the visits you've experienced. I grew-up with Camp Randal (Wisconsin Badgers) during the late 40's an early 50's; the seating capacity was around 47K I recall (Wisconsin struggled back then; Alan Ameche, the 54 Heisman winner brought some fame and glory to Madison)....they did fill the stadium to capacity each Saturday with the 1953 Rose Bowl team (Big-10 Co Champs...no play-offs/conference championship games back then).......I was at that 53 Rose Bowl game (100,000 fans .....unbelievable). The Badgers lost to USC 7-0. I did witness an Arizona-Arizona State game in Tucson back in 1954,,,,a night game.....Been to many games at Ben Hill Griffin mostly during the late 70' and 80's.....truly a colorful and many-times "sweaty" experience especially the day-games during the month of September......One Florida-Georgia game in Jacksonville. I've been to the Outback Bowl (Raymond James Stadium-Tampa)....something about NFL stadiums that can never match the on-campus football stadiums (color and tradition, warmth and charm) and the pretty girls......ha.
I've been to the Los Angeles Coliseum (once).....USC vs Stanford (1977)...an ugly facility built for the 1932 Olympics (no warmth or charm...very impersonal).
Games in Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, Baton Rouge, Athens, Auburn, Lexington, Gainesville etc....... (that is what SEC football is all about).
My favorite college football Stadium ? The "swamp"...all my Kids went to school there.....I have to be a little "prejudice"...
